Is anyone else really disappointed by Toon Link's reveal?

[Al-kīmiyā']

I think his reveal seriously lowers the chances of any Zelda newcomers, and you can see from my signature that I was hoping for more than one. It's really depressing.

 

[Curious Villager]

Nope.

Besides seeing as you wanted Vaati as one of them. I really can't see him making it in if Toon Link isn't there either anyway. Same goes for Skull Kid if Young Link isn't there. But that's just my opinion. :/

 

[Oniric Spriter]

No, he's an interesting character and he deserves the slot way more than any other Zelda rep.

 

[Luco]

I agree (with Oniric and Kikwi).

Toon Link is a bit of a loved character through the smash series since his original form (that is, the idea of a second link) in melee (young link). As a character no-one was sure would make it into smash 4, I think his reveal is a representation of hope for many that Sakurai is caring about Brawl newcomers and willing to put them into smash 4.

My personal feelings are that I never wanted any Brawl characters cut, so to see Toon Link in is particularly relieving for me. Other newcomers will have their chance, i'm sure.

 

[DakotaBonez]

The "toon" design has been used more than any other in the zelda games.
We got a badass realistic link and a link that represents almost all of the handheld games and Wind Waker.
I haven't kept up with any handheld zelda titles but even I can see how it would make sense to include Link's most prominent design.
Plus, melee die hards appreciate having a shorter Link clone.
I'm all for clones. Clones provide minor tweaks to characters which can make em more suitable to a person's playstyle.
All the fun of a character whose moveset you love, but with higher jump/more range/more speed at the cost of power/knockback/etc...

 

[t!MmY]

I would have been disappointed if he was not revealed.

Link is the iconic character for the Legend of Zelda series, and Toon Link is the representative for the classic kid-styled hero. Toon Link is a much more logical choice than any other character next to Zelda and Ganondorf.

 

[Kapus]

I would have been disappointed if he was not revealed.

Link is the iconic character for the Legend of Zelda series, and Toon Link is the representative for the classic kid-styled hero. Toon Link is a much more logical choice than any other character next to Zelda and Ganondorf.

Pretty much this.

The "Toon" style is a pretty big part of the Zelda franchise, appearing in about...six games in the series, I think? It would be strange to not have the Toon side of the series represented with Toon Link.

Toon Link may lower the chances of another Zelda newcomer a bit, unless Sakurai sees a 5th slot being worthy, but were any other Zelda characters really likely? The most likely one, I think, is Tingle, since he is a reoccurring character in the series and starred in a few spinoff games. He has a bit of a hatedom after him, though, and is probably better suited as a goofy assist trophy.

Personally, I think the Zelda series is perfectly represented as it is. We have the Triforce Trio of Link, Zelda and Ganondorf, who usually share the same artstyle, and then Toon Link as an extra to represent the Toon styled games. They are the major, reoccurring characters of the franchise (the Zelda series usually gets a completely new set of supporting characters with each installment), and I think that's all that's really necessary. Don't get me wrong, if a Zelda newcomer did show up I wouldn't really be upset or anything. But I'd rather have newcomers focus mostly on series that are unrepresented.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

Initially, I was surprised when I saw him to say the least. But after a while, I got used to his return. Just a strange character to reveal if he is a starter. If it weren't for Windwaker HD this probably wouldn't have happened.

 

[Ussi]

My disappoint will come when his moveset is known

 

[Baskerville]

You're asking people in the Toon Link thread if they're disappointed by his return.
I mean really.

 

[Xigger]

If your disappointment is focused entirely on "One Zelda character means other potential Zelda characters have less of a chance," then this really has nothing to do with Toon Link, but your dwindling hope of Vaati, Ghirahim, Impa, and Skull Kid. (But not Zant)

I think you should cast aside the fear that characters are limited by their franchise count, and support characters for being characters rather than franchise representation.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

I know I'M disappointed... come on, man, like SERIOUSLY do we need another Link? Now we're probably going to get Toon Zelda.....

 

[Curious Villager]

Well Sakurai clearly does need a younger Link into the Smash series as he finds them to be very important to him. And if you think about, it does make sense why he thinks that way.

14 out of 17 Zelda games have featured a younger Link in the Zelda series (with Ocarina of Time featuring both an adult and child Link). Their actually far more important than the adult Link's who are often turned into the default Link's in Smash.

You know, I just think of the younger Link's as the Default Link's Luigi and it's not that bad in that way in my opinion. Besides, their not leaving anytime soon as I can definitely imagine them sticking around for many future games to come (if the series will even go for that many more games in the future that is), so you might as well start to get used to them.

Besides, the Zelda franchise doesn't really have any notable recurring characters who can actually stand on their own two feet without the reliance of another younger Link being there. The only exceptions I can think of are Tingle and Impa. Tingle because he has his own spin off series to represent (although that still wouldn't stop a child Link from making it into the game) and Impa (well at least the Skyward Sword one) would be just fine as well without a younger Link being there.

Anyone else is either just a one off or (to be honest) someone who I'm personally not sure I can see happening if their main enemy or friend, the younger Link, isn't there either. Examples like these are the likes of Vaati, Skull Kid, Toon Zelda and Tetra etc. It's like having Bowser but not Mario, or Wolf but not Fox. But that's just my own personal feeling towards that I guess.

Oh well, just giving my two cents of why we have the younger Link's in every Smash game since Melee. Had Sakurai originally made Young Link the default Link in Smash Bros 64, I'm fairly certain we wouldn't have dealt with this in future Smash Bros titles.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

To be fair the link in the original 2 games and Link to the Past was in his mid-teens meaning he could go either way as far as child/adult classification goes but I agree with your points Kiwi.

 

[Curious Villager]

Yeah I was including the Zelda II Link, (he grew up after the events from the first game I believe). So far I know, Zelda II, Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are the only Zelda games confirmed to feature an adult Link. It's hard to tell with the likes of ALttP Link. But yeah, most Zelda games featured Link's who were at least in their teens from about 10 to 14/15 I guess.

 

[the smash nerd]

yes no maybe

 

[Bowserlick]

I was disappointed. This game looked like it was full of flavor. Regular moves looking like smash moves, movements of characters better reflecting their games, new moves for some characters. I feel like Toon Link goes against this promising current.

But the in-game model does look good. He seemed balanced in Brawl, so maybe it was not all that time consuming to transport Toon Link over.

 

[Lukingordex]

I'm still disapointed.

How the hell is THAT character being reveled BEFORE Yoshi?
What are you planing Sakurai?

Seriously now,I believe Toon Link deserves a spot on SSB4(but he didn't and don't deserve to be revealed before Yoshi,that's just doesn't make sense.)

 

[No Control]

Not disappointed as such, but I did feel as though Toon Link was one of the necessary cuts to ensure the game was clone-free this time around (clones are a waste of time when we all know the roster isn't going to expand all that much - this game could not even be vaguely balanced with >50 characters). So I know how some feel.

Still, as long as my top 4 get in (#5 would be a bonus), and none of my Brawl favourites (Sonic, Jigglypuff, Ice Climbers) don't get cut, I'm cool with any character announcements.

 

[EddyBearr]

I'm happy with it. I prefer Young Link, but both are good.

 

[Oniric Spriter]

I'm still disapointed.

How the hell is THAT character being reveled BEFORE Yoshi?
What are you planing Sakurai?

Seriously now,I believe Toon Link deserves a spot on SSB4(but he didn't and don't deserve to be revealed before Yoshi,that's just doesn't make sense.)

I think they're just waiting for Yoshi's New Island/Yoshi's epic Yarn. And even though maybe he needs more work balancing him than for ex. Peach.

 

[Luco]

I'm still disapointed.

How the hell is THAT character being reveled BEFORE Yoshi?
What are you planing Sakurai?

Seriously now,I believe Toon Link deserves a spot on SSB4(but he didn't and don't deserve to be revealed before Yoshi,that's just doesn't make sense.)

Aww Lukin, don't worry Yoshi's totally set in stone, there's no way he'd ever be outed, as far as I can see. I think Sakurai's deliberately saving him and the other original 3 left to be revealed for later. ^^

 

[Autumn ♫]

I'm glad he's back, it helps bring back Toad and Ridley's chances and it improves Vaati's chances so I'm happy.

 

[Lukingordex]

ops,nvm,wrong thread

 

[Ultinarok]

Not disappointed, just surprised. Thought for sure we'd get more notable mainstay reps first. Sonic has just come and done it again too.

 

[Frostwraith]

Not disappointed at all. Wind Waker was my first Zelda game and I was ecstatic to see him return.

What disappoints me is the fact that he doesn't seem to have moves from WW exclusive items. The Skull Hammer could be his forward Smash and his Spin Attack could follow with Deku Leaf, much like how G&W opens the Parachute after being launched upwards in his Up Special.

Similarly to the Deku Leaf, I think Link could have the Sailcloth from Skyward Sword which serves a similar purpose and could be interestingly implemented. But this is not the Link board.

 

[SonicMario]

Not really, Toon Link's left me alot more optimistic on the chances of most characters in Brawl being cut. Before Toon Link's reveal. I was thinking no more then 5 characters were getting cut. Toon Link showing up I believe has changed that to no more then 3.

 

[Z1GMA]

I'm disappointed, but I'll forgive them if they make him more different from Link.

 

[Gabe Hartzog]

To be honest, I am pretty disappointed. I mean I am a huge Zelda fan, but they could've fused Link and toon link to make a great character. I just feel like his spot could've been taken by a more deserving fighter.

 

[Zzuxon]

Normally, I kind of would be, but since is Inclusion really helps Toad and Ridley, no.

 

[Morbi]

I think his reveal seriously lowers the chances of any Zelda newcomers, and you can see from my signature that I was hoping for more than one. It's really depressing.

I was too busy rubbing it in everyone's face. Toon Link has become my co-main ever since they desecrated and butchered Link. So I am glad to have him back. Not to mention, as a Jigglypuff supporter, it gave me some concrete evidence that Sakurai's priority has changed over the course of 5 years. Believe me, it was difficult to convince them until Toon Link came along. Actions speak louder than words. However, I feel your pain. I really want Tingle to be in the game. I feel as though his chances are attenuated. So it is a catch 22 for myself.

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

It is quite disappointing that Toon Link's moveset is completely copied over from Brawl with no original flair from his line of Zelda games to utilize against TP/SS Link. A few posts about give so many ideas that could make Toon Link a truly worthy character and not just a character who sets in to promote another line of games.

That being said, I do have hope that Sakurai is using "character customization" to completely negate this, especially in Toon Link and Sonic's case. Because if he drops hints on a major game-immersing feature that isn't a gimmick like "CHANGE ATTACK DIRECTIONS AND SPECIAL EFFECTS LOLOLOLOL" and it turns out the wrong way, people will **** on SSB4 harder than they did to Brawl.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Um...

You people realize that the existence of Toon Link does not mean Link will be crap right?

 

[Gabe Hartzog]

Um...

You people realize that the existence of Toon Link does not mean Link will be crap right?

I think its just more of us being cautious.

 

[O Dog]

There was a specific reason that Toon Link was revealed when he was. Wind Waker HD was released soon thereafter. The other original secret characters from Smash 64 (Puff, Falcon, Ness) will be revealed in time, along with Yoshi. Luigi was already confirmed, and will probably be a secret character per tradition.

 

[Pazzo.]

Nope.

I'd say Vaati has a better chance now that Toon Link is in.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Nope.

I'd say Vaati has a better chance now that Toon Link is in.

Exactly why I'm glad Toon Link got in.

 

[Knight Dude]

Not really, I used him more than normal Link. I can understand why some people are dissapointed though, Toon Link is probably the most clone-like character in Brawl. Maybe this bodes well that less characters are likely to get cut this time.

 

[TumblrFamous]

How in the hell have I missed this thread?

I'm happy he's returning, as you can probably tell. He's hugely important to the LoZ series, popular, and represents the Child games, which obviously matter to Sakurai. I'm also happy because this means characters like Tetra or Vaati can get in.