Well it seems like everyone is pretty fine with calling what Yoshi does in that video plainly tripping.
No, not really. The majority of active posters prefer the name ink drop. There is only a select few like yourself that continue to push for a new name.
The problem is with what to call what happens after, right?
Umm... what? It's going to be an inkdrop cancel. But you would never actually say that, because you would say the move that the player "ink dropped" so in a sense, ink drop can apply to both the regular drop/dive or the cancel, depending on context. The only time you might even say cancel is in this context: "Wait, did he just cancel is ink drop into a roll, becuase that looked like a tech." But even there you can just say "Did he ink drop a roll, or a tech?"
If it is NOT cancellable, which seems somewhat likely, than we call it whatever the devs call it, because it's not being applied to a new tactic that is a key element of the game.
Seriously.. would it really make sense to talk about ink-dropping out of a shine if this was a debate about Jump Cancelling? If a trip is cancellable, and has practical application, why the hell not just put those two words together? It immediately describes it. Trip-cancel. Hell, we may be able to trip-cancel out of a shine to some helpful result. Personally, i think it'd be stupid to talk about zekking or voitting or joshing or zuaring or taying out of a shine.
Well, like I've said many times before-yet you've chosen to ignore; A partial understanding means nothing. People are going to have to look up the technique anyway if they want to use it. I personally think that "drop" or "dive" makes more sense than "trip", anyway- if you're looking at it froma technical standpoint, because you are intentionally doing this.
Ink Drop has been around for 3 days, now, and I've agreed that we will call it what the devs call it if it is not cancellable, but why change the name when you are going to have to look it up anyway?
I just.. gah.. I don't have the patience to post in these threads anymore.
Than please don't.
I'm just gonna reiterate the few points I've made and be done. Personally, I'll call it Tripping or Trip-cancelling, unless a more sensible name becomes widely accepted.
That's fine with me, but you will be the minority.
I will not call it inkdropping. In any case.. Ink has no claim to this technique. If you think he discovered it, you're wrong. Zauron first brought it up.
There is a difference between discovered and brought up. It doesn't really matter, anyway, because the name has stuck.
If you think he pioneered it's use, you're wrong.
No, I don't think that. I do, however, think he was the first one to address it's possible uses and attempt it's use in gameplay. Also included in these thoughts on ink dropping were Gimpy and HugS, who wish for the name to be ink dropping.
He couldn't adequately recreate it
This is not true.
Nor is he even sure that what he did was a Trip-cancel.
This is irrelevent, because we aren't keeping the name if it ISNT cancellable. Anyways, he never said that. It is because of Zaurons thoughtful post in my thread that people are starting to doubt that.
What happened may very well be what Wyvern has put the time into investigating and discussing, the dash pivot (or pivot dash, i forget) cancel.
Please learn what you are talking about. It's a dash break.
Ink has done nothing deserving here.
We've been over this...
While he first didn't seem to care about the name, as he didn't coin it, he now does cling to it for completely vain reasons.
Not really, he's not clinging to it at all, lol.
If Ink Drop persists, whatever. I guess there's nothing I can really do about that.
Very true, at least you aren't completley stupid.
But Ink has done nothing to merit it being named after him.
Well, that's opinion, and regardless- it doesn't matter. The name is staying.
He doesn't know the specifics of its execution or use.
He's working on it.
He doesn't know the nuances of its application in the metagame.
Says you?
He just stumbled (or tripped)
You're so punny.
into doing something weird, that may or many not actually be what we're even talking about.
Wut?
Seems pretty lame to name it after him.
Seems pretty lame to keep pushing for something else.
Okay? I hope this clears things up a little.