Face124
Smash Ace
Prety much, jump release to Raptor Boost.
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Inescapable kill combo on Wario
- Thread starter Face124
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nash123
Smash Journeyman
So do you just walk off ledge then raptor boost or SH?
CO18
Smash Hero
Just keep grabbing them until they break and side b instantly im guessing.
HAvent tested this yet but this seems like good stuff.
I tip my hat to you
HAvent tested this yet but this seems like good stuff.
I tip my hat to you
Face124
Smash Ace
I'm just making a video to show you. I'll post it as soon as its done.
It depends on the character, But its usually just a SH.
BrawlLover
Smash Champion
wait are you certain of this????
Face124
Smash Ace
It says its 2 consecutive hits for everyone i put up there, so yeah.
CO18
Smash Hero
that doesnt mean its inescapable, alot of moves do this in training mode. its whacked out,
you would have to test this vs a human
BrawlLover
Smash Champion
oh wow, but i don't see any demonstration, im soo sorry for my doubt, it's just that when i try falcon, my fingers can't move fast/correctlly to land hits, figurrrrs!
Face124
Smash Ace
I'm very sure it works, and the videos up now. What do you think?
This seems reasonable. Grab releases into the air are pretty infamous for making the released character immobile for a while. This is how Yoshi has a chaingrab > spike combo on MK and is the reason why Yoshi is the only neutral match-up for MK.
Make sure you test with a human, though. That's the only way to make sure that the character can't move after the grab release before you can RB them.
EDIT: From the video you can tell that you definitely need to test it on a human. The Ness can definitely move before you can RB them. You can tell because the CPU DI'd before you hit them and you can't DI during a grab release until after you can move. And if they can move, they can airdodge.
Seems like Mario would be able to avoid it too.
My advice is to get someone over to help you test it with a human. It's the only way to find out which characters this would work on for real.
Make sure you test with a human, though. That's the only way to make sure that the character can't move after the grab release before you can RB them.
EDIT: From the video you can tell that you definitely need to test it on a human. The Ness can definitely move before you can RB them. You can tell because the CPU DI'd before you hit them and you can't DI during a grab release until after you can move. And if they can move, they can airdodge.
Seems like Mario would be able to avoid it too.
My advice is to get someone over to help you test it with a human. It's the only way to find out which characters this would work on for real.
Face124
Smash Ace
After a bit more testing it turns out ness, luigi and mario can all escape it. I'm not sure about kirby, and it appears wario can't. I wish i could edit titles :/
Tyser
Smash Champion
Doesnt work.
You can. Just click on "Go Advanced" when you're editing the first post on the thread.
EDIT: Also, if you don't have access to a human player, try setting the CPU to level 9 on the Training Mode character select and set the CPU to "Run". That should give you at least slightly better results.
Face124
Smash Ace
this should work as grab release>knee works on wario too :D
good work face
Edit: Could it be possible to grab release>Dair near an edge for an easy spike/launch?
Edit2: Dang it, when I tried it (release grab>raptor boost) the cpu or DI'd towards the stage so I couldn't do it or he grabbed the ledge just before I hit him causing me to SD
(this tested on a wario in training set to cpu:stop)
this doesn't mean it doesn't work yet though
Edit3: release grab>Dair did work for me :D but it couldb be escapable
good work face
Edit: Could it be possible to grab release>Dair near an edge for an easy spike/launch?
Edit2: Dang it, when I tried it (release grab>raptor boost) the cpu or DI'd towards the stage so I couldn't do it or he grabbed the ledge just before I hit him causing me to SD
(this tested on a wario in training set to cpu:stop)
this doesn't mean it doesn't work yet though
Edit3: release grab>Dair did work for me :D but it couldb be escapable
Face124
Smash Ace
I'm very sure that Wario Can't escape. if you set another him to control in training then do the grab realease, but airdodge as soon as you can as wario, then do the RB at the same hight i did in the video, you'll notice that the RB hits him at a higher hight than he can airdodge, if that makes sense xD
DKKountry
Smash Ace
Ima give this a whirl.
BrawlLover
Smash Champion
i tried it, but it's definitely escapable
Mit
Smash Ace
Gotta keep in mind too, that even if they can't air-dodge it, Raptor boost has some of the lowest priority in the game. If they can pull out any air move before you, they're probably going to either cancel the raptor boost or just hit you.
Face124
Smash Ace
It is on Wario
Man of Popsicle
Smash Lord
Raptor boost sacraficial KO's FTW.