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[Kaizer]

Seriously, I have big time problems with Falco. I just get combo'ed all the time x_X I always get hit by a laser to wtfcombos. I get no grabs whatsoever, and shieldgrab is impossible because of the doubleshine/shine-rapeness.

Any tips to that matchup? Against a technical Falco I don't have big problems against Fox, Falco is my hardest matchup actually. Yes, when hes of the stage, it's a kill. But it's freakin' hard to get him there

Sooo, tips?

 

[Shadow 111]

kaizer, thanks for the help on doc. unfortunately i dont have much falco info in return lol. i try to be really offensive and jump away from the lasers. its almost impossible to grab so i have some trouble with that matchup too :/

 

[doyoung2win]

i live in nj where all they play are falco, im getting some vids up soon so il post here so you can see.

 

[MaNg0]

GOOD STUFF

Well people.. im starting 2 c alot of puff players do bad agaisnt falco..
dont no why
Ive gotten good at the match over time..
But like i said.. Most falcos wont go falco they would go fox

But ive tryed this new thing on spacies..that has gotten me succes
PREPARED 2 BE AMAZED


OK

FULL HOP NAIR

ya ya.. trust me.. try this on spacies... soooo goood..
Espcially falco...
Like there lasering..
Just full hop nair over laser
U hit them.. u can grab or whatever

 

[ChronoSquare]

GOOD STUFF

Well people.. im starting 2 c alot of puff players do bad agaisnt falco..
dont no why
Ive gotten good at the match over time..
But like i said.. Most falcos wont go falco they would go fox

But ive tryed this new thing on spacies..that has gotten me succes
PREPARED 2 BE AMAZED


OK

FULL HOP NAIR

ya ya.. trust me.. try this on spacies... soooo goood..
Espcially falco...
Like there lasering..
Just full hop nair over laser
U hit them.. u can grab or whatever

I think Puffs are starting to do bad vs. Falcos, because no one expects it. There's been a HUUUUGE downfall of Falco... people left and right are giving him up for other characters like Fox and Marth... with no one playing Falco any more, no one gets practice in vs. him, and so when you meet someone who DOES use Falco, people are then nowhere near as well-prepared for a Falco match compared to, say, a Puff v. Fox or Puff v. Marth match.

 

[MaNg0]

Thats true chrono..
People are realizng falco gets gimped 2 much lol


NEW AIM
PrrettyMango69

AND PC GAVE ME THE IDEA

I DIDNT STEAL IT LOL

 

[Zro]

Thats true chrono..
People are realizng falco gets gimped 2 much lol


NEW AIM
PrrettyMango69

AND PC GAVE ME THE IDEA

I DIDNT STEAL IT LOL

lmfao prrettymango69 huh? DARN U PRRETTYPRRINCESS AND UR INFLUENCE lol

 

[ChronoSquare]

Hey Mango you know what you need to do?

You need to pick up Peach once Brawl comes out... that way you'd be Peach Mango...

 

[Kaizer]

Full hop nair... Sounds cool, will try it when I face some crazy techical Falco

Oh, and love your new AIM, Mango. You're so pretty!!

 

[chef-hado]

i haven't played a good falco in a while, but when i use puff against falco i usually try to get as close as i can and just bair or fair spam. they can't laser half as much when you're really up close, but i guess you still hafta watch out for the pillaring. as i've said, the falco i played wasn't the best i know, so i'm not sure on the matchup

 

[Kaizer]

I don't think that would work on any decent+ falco. He can easily dair you, for example :]

 

[Espy Rose]

Okay, I have a quick problem that needs fixing.

Sheik and her needles: How to I get past them, and would it be easier to let the Sheik come to me, or vice versa...?

 

[Sliq]

Okay, I have a quick problem that needs fixing.

Sheik and her needles: How to I get past them, and would it be easier to let the Sheik come to me, or vice versa...?

When Sheik jumps to throw needles, just jump with her. She throws them at a downward diagonal angle, so be above them. On the ground, just duck them. If the Sheik isn't hitting you with the needles, then she isn't going to needle camp. Despite the fact that they aren't getting hit, they aren't hitting you either, and will eventually rush you.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

just cstick spam peoples its the only way with puff

 

[Sliq]

That might work with your broken character, but us Jiggly players need mindgames.

 

[Binx]

So good approaches vs Falcon? I was woping the face out of him and then he just started predicting me and kneeing my face in and I am not sure how to mix it up, also I couldnt seem to get any grabs to get him off the stage, I don't generally play jiggs but I really want to learn her for teamsies and for a falcon counter since a ton of people use falcon and Jiggs gimps him like no other, retreating nairs kept him off me but he was really patient, is there a way to put pressure on him while be relatively safe? Thanks.

 

[MaNg0]

PuffBall64- Just sit at the ledge.. let that ***** come 2 u

PATIENCE!!!

Binx- Well falcon is really hard... i hate him
Theres acutally no good way 2 approach..
But nair is a start.. just because.. he cant do much 2 it..
or just run up 2 him and sheild.. and wait for that moment 2 attack.
Just sheild alot.. but not 2 much
Grabs are really good 2.. up throw.. comboooos

 

[Xanskarr]

what would a falcon player counterpick as a stage against jigglypuff
i have my own reasons for asking this.

 

[ThatOneDudeski]

what would a falcon player counterpick as a stage against jigglypuff
i have my own reasons for asking this.

FOO U ALREADY HAVE A PURIN COUNTER PICK STAGE!! >< -pouts-

 

[Xanskarr]

Falcon =/= Falco
plz read k

 

[ThatOneDudeski]

i know that.. but you counter with falco..so i was trying to say something to the effect of "why would u counter pick with falcon when u could with falco..on that one stage..that u **** me at.."

 

[JTB]

I **** Falcos.

Socal can attest to that.

 

[mikeHAZE]

why hasn't DSF come into this thread asking for advice yet?

 

[MaNg0]

HE has a point..
hes beaten every falco in socal except mines

NEXt time i Play U jtb im going falco.. and end ur streak

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

What's with the mango? I don't get it

 

[MaNg0]

What's with the mango? I don't get it

Hes a 15 year old kid who uses jigglypuff
and is rather good
he likes 2 rest because people make mistakes and
he capitalizes..
end of story

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

Thanks for the info, never heard him before thought, hmm...

 

[MaNg0]

WOW never heard of the amazing puff player mango

One day.. I shall send u videos

 

[Zro]

WOW never heard of the amazing puff player mango

One day.. I shall send u videos

wow ur 15! **** ur young.....

 

[ShumPenPo]

hey, i was wondering. do you lightshield or is that bad because it might ruin your spacing for a "MangoRape"

 

[MaNg0]

Hmmm
I like never light shield..
DOnt think its good

 

[Espy Rose]

Hmmm
I like never light shield..
DOnt think its good

That makes two of us.

So, to clarify, vs. the better half of Sheik players, it'd be best for me to hang back at the ledge and play ledge games with them?

Also, one more: fair-ing a Peach off the level (with the late part of the fair btw). Is it better than bair-ing her off the level at higher percentages?

As for Peach as a whole, is it a good idea to shffl an aerial and land next to her? I assume no because, I don't know if I'm just slow, but her d-smash nails be every time.

 

[Shadow 111]

As for Peach as a whole, is it a good idea to shffl an aerial and land next to her? I assume no because, I don't know if I'm just slow, but her d-smash nails be every time.

yea you should use shffl attacks. i dont know if doing a shffl to f smash is good against her if thats what you meant. she gets knocked back pretty far (maybe at low percent you can use it well though) but the down smash is very hard to get away from. i just try to move back and forth in the air while using f air, b air, or n air (camping) but trying to move her closer to the ledge while doing that so you can get a kill off. that way you wont land near her and you'll avoid the d smash.

 

[chef-hado]

mango...is...fifteen...wow i feel old...and newby
well if you think the peach might crouch cancel your aerial just do another jump and pound, it's worked for me a few times, and if you use it sparingly it'll surprise people
but still, l-canceling is your friend?
and against peach's recovery, keep WoP and wait for to open her umbrella, cuz that's probably one of her most vulnerable times. it's still not a fosho kill, but once the umbrella comes out, life gets alot easier for you and harder for peach in the sense she can only open and close and try to land asap from there

 

[MaNg0]

Well
Shffl is good agaisnt peach
as long as u space..
Dont go crazy with attacks..
Just like hit her shield once and back off.
When u get greedy is when she Nairs u out of her sheild..
U cant be agressive on peach.. i figured this out
Just pace ur self.. and try 2 have an 8 minute match ^_^

 

[mikeHAZE]

mangopuff are you coming for thanksgiving or what

 

[Espy Rose]

Well
Shffl is good agaisnt peach
as long as u space..
Dont go crazy with attacks..
Just like hit her shield once and back off.
When u get greedy is when she Nairs u out of her sheild..
U cant be agressive on peach.. i figured this out
Just pace ur self.. and try 2 have an 8 minute match ^_^

I see.

So, to clarify, vs. the better half of Sheik players, it'd be best for me to hang back at the ledge and play ledge games with them?

Clarify???

 

[ChronoSquare]

Ok Mango... here's my question.
On who does up-air work?

By that, I mean on what characters is it a good idea to try and use up-air to combo with/lead into rest; characters and general percentages, do you know?

Like, I know with the fastfallers and Ganon up air works wonders, but with the other characters, in particular floaties like Peach and Samus, I end up hitting them with up air at higher %s because I'm apparently trying something, and I only end up sending them high and I'm unable to chase them. And this is because I don't truly know when to use up air, or against who should I be thinking to use it on...

 

[MaNg0]

Ok Mango... here's my question.
On who does up-air work?

By that, I mean on what characters is it a good idea to try and use up-air to combo with/lead into rest; characters and general percentages, do you know?

Like, I know with the fastfallers and Ganon up air works wonders, but with the other characters, in particular floaties like Peach and Samus, I end up hitting them with up air at higher %s because I'm apparently trying something, and I only end up sending them high and I'm unable to chase them. And this is because I don't truly know when to use up air, or against who should I be thinking to use it on...

U air works good on... pretty good on everyone but

1.Peach.... about 20-30 percent should lead 2 a rest
2.Space Animals...... If u get an up air on them... u can rest like at any percatages
3.Marth.... about 20-40 percent sounds a bout right be...
4.Ice Climbers..... About 20-40 here also
5.Sheik.... Pretty much up 2 like 50 percent.. tooo goood

 

[brawlpro]

Ay dawg what can I do to get spacies in an utilt? Like howish? After what combo n stuff?