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If you were in charge of roster picking for an upcoming Smash!!

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Ura

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Mario Series
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Rosalina
Bowser Jr.
Dr. Mario
Wario
Waluigi
New Mario Character

DK Series
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Lanky Kong

Zelda Series
Link
Young Link (Melee moveset + the abillity to use MM masks)
Zelda
Sheik
Ganondorf (revamped moveset)
Toon Link
Impa

Metroid Series
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Dark Samus (Unique moveset, not a clone)

Yoshi Series
Yoshi
Birdo

Kirby Series
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Bandana Dee

Star Fox Series
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Krystal

Kid Icarus Series
Pit
Palutena
Dark Pit (Decloned)
Hades

Pokemon Series
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Charizard
Mewtwo
Lucario
Greninja
Popular 7/8/9th Generation Pokemon
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Pichu

Fire Emblem Series
Marth
Lucina
Robin
Roy (Decloned)
Lyn
Ike
Popular FE character from a future FE game

F-Zero Series
Captain Falcon (Black Shadow alt)

Earthbound Series
Ness
Lucas
Ninten

Other Nintendo Series
Little Mac
Mr. Game & Watch
Ice Climbers
Shulk
Isaac
Andy
Takamaru
Duck Hunt Duo
R.O.B
Villager
Olimar
Mii Fighter (More classes available)

Thrid Party Reps
Sonic
Solid Snake
Megaman
Pacman
Bomberman
Rayman
Ryu
Heihachi Mishima

*I made this list with bringing back all cut vets back to the series in mind
*Wario's series has been combined in to the Mario series
*If Street Fighter can have a rep, so can Tekken
 
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I think I can play a little game with you guys, but I am only doing newcomers because I, like anyone else, have no real idea on how the roster would be chosen for Smash 5

Newcomers

With key letters
F female
V villain

Mario series
Daisy F

Wario series
Hunter Wario (based on Wario Land series with a safari cap)

Donkey Kong Series
Dixie Kong F
King K Rool V

Zelda Series
Toon Zelda F
Tetra F
Toon Ganondorf V
Lana F

Star Fox
Krystal F

Kirby Series
Bandana Dee

Metroid Series
Ridley V

Kid Icarus Series
Medusa F V

Pokemon
Serperior (need a fully-evolved starter grass and takes form of serpent)

Fire Emblem
Tiki (well stumbled across a support threat that involves transformation) F

NES/Famicom
Tamagon (JP and EU)

SNES/Super Famicom
Lip (I am aware of the niche popularity in Smash Boards and games only released in Japan) F

Wii U
Monita (technically a robot, despite some female personality)

Splatoon
Inkling

Special Guests (aka 3rd parties)

Rayman
Shovel Knight
Bayonetta F
 

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I would cut, Dark Pit, Dr, Mario, and Lucina. I would be fine with them being alternate costumes.

For third party. I'm not sure if you meant I could 5 or just add 2 since I am leaving Mega Man, Pacman, and Sonic on my roster but. If only two, I would add Geno, and Bayonetta. If I can add 5 them I would throw in Bomberman, Snake, and Shantae.

For Nintendo Newcomers I would add.
1. Takamaru
2. Isaac
3. Dillon
4. Midna/Wolf Link
5. Dixie Kong
6. Meloetta
7. Lana
8. Medusa

My unlockable characters would be
1. Chibi Robo
2. Bandana Dee
3. Krystal
4. Captain Toad
5. Melia
6. Captain Rainbow
 

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I like how the last two rosters has Lana on them. Seriously, that girl needs more credit than what's she's got other than being an annoying J-Pop witch in the fandom's eyes. Still a better idea than Agitha and Fi.
 
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Veterans
1. Mario
2. Link
3. Kirby
4. Pikachu
5. Samus
6. Donkey Kong
7. Yoshi
8. Fox
9. Jigglypuff
10. Ness
11. Luigi
12. Captain Falcon

All pretty straightforward - they've been in the franchise since the first game, and there's no reason to get rid of them now.

13. Peach
14. Bowser
15. Dr. Mario
16. Zelda
17. Sheik
18. Ganondorf
19. Mewtwo
20. Falco
21. Marth
22. Ice Climbers
23. Mr. Game & Watch

Brought back Ice Climbers; I'm assuming that, even if the next Smash Bros. is on both handhelds and home consoles, the next handheld should be able to handle them. As for the three clones who I wouldn't bring back (Young Link, Roy, Pichu), I feel that other characters fill the exact same role that they do (Young Link -> Toon Link, Roy -> Lucina), and in Pichu's case, it's worse than Pikachu in every meaningful way and damages itself with its attacks - what's the point in bringing it back?

24. Meta Knight
25. Pit
26. Zero Suit Samus
27. Wario
28. Ike
29. Diddy Kong
30. Squirtle
31. Ivysaur
32. Charizard
33. Lucario
34. King Dedede
35. Captain Olimar
36. Toon Link
37. Wolf
38. R.O.B.
39. Snake (Third Party)
40. Sonic (Third Party)

Bringing back everyone from Brawl. Squirtle and Ivysaur seem like they're popular enough to be able to stand on their own (plus, I find it ridiculous that two unique movesets were completely removed from the game). Lucas and Wolf have completely different A attacks than Ness and Fox - seeing as those make up the majority of a character's moves, it's hard to claim that they're clones.

As for Snake, I've already given my opinion in the Snake thread; to sum it up, third party characters seem to be included in Smash Bros. due to the role that they've played in the history of video games as a whole, and given how much the Metal Gear franchise has developed the concept of using video games as a story-telling medium, I'd say that Snake does deserve to be brought back.

41. Villager
42. Wii Fit Trainer
43. Rosalina and Luma
44. Bowser Junior
45. Little Mac
46. Greninja
47. Palutena
48. Dark Pit
49. Robin
50. Lucina
51. Shulk
52. Duck Hunt
53. Mii Fighter
54. Mega Man (Third Party)
55. Pac-Man (Third Party)

Not removing anyone from SSB4, though ideally, Lucina and Dark Pit would have more done to make them different from Marth and Pit.

So that's fifty-five characters, leaving me with fifteen more at most. Unlike with the veterans, where I explained them in groups, I'll be explaining each of these individually.

Newcomers: (Possible spoilers for the Earthbound and Kid Icarus series)
56. Captain Toad

Toad has been a playable character in Mario games for a long time - even back in the NES, with Super Mario Bros. 2 and Wario's Woods. While the standard Toad is apparently a permanent part of Peach's powers, Captain Toad stands out above the other Toads with multiple playable appearances (in both Mario 3D World and Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker), plus being able to draw from the playable versions of other Toads (like in the games I've already mentioned, or the home console New Super Mario Bros. games). Toad is a fairly popular choice for Nintendo's multiplayer games, so including him in Smash Bros. seems like a definite possibility.

57. Impa

I, for one, find it strange that Zelda - arguably Nintendo's second most popular franchise - has had its representation in the Smash Bros. roster virtually unchanged since Super Smash Bros. Melee in 2001. The closest that we've gotten are things like changing Young Link to Toon Link, or making Sheik her own playable character, but none of those are really new characters. While I debated including Midna or Ghirahim, I felt that if the Zelda series was going to get a new character, Impa seemed like the best choice.

She's had multiple appearances to draw from, including Ocarina of Time, Skyward Sword, and most notably Hyrule Warriors, where she was a playable character with multiple weapons and movesets. While this spot could be given to Midna or Ghirahim (both of whom would be fantastic choices), I feel like Impa has more to work with, so she'd be a more realistic choice.

58. Ridley

This may or may not be my most controversial choice (that title would either go to Ridley, given how divisive he is, or one of my third party choices), but I'm sticking with it. It is absolutely absurd that Metroid, a franchise that has been in Smash Bros. since the first game and has tripled in size since then, is only represented by different versions of Samus. Ridley is, by far, the second most prominent character in the series, after Samus herself, and his boss fights are always among the most climactic and memorable in their respective games.

The way I see it, Ridley is the Metroid equivalent to Ganondorf. They may not appear in every game in their series, but they're easily the most iconic and memorable villain in that series, heavily tied to the backstory of the setting, and are both incredibly menacing and purely malicious figures. While Ridley may not be the final boss in the Metroid games, he is easily the one that people will remember the most. As far as his size is concerned, since I know that will come up, put him on all fours (similar to when he lands on the Pyrosphere), give him the Super Metroid design (so his arms, legs, wings, and tail are more reasonably proportioned), and make him about the same height as Bowser. That way, he's the size of a playable character while still being imposing and menacing. His size varies quite a bit within his own series (compare how big he is between the two boss fights in Metroid Prime 3), so it's not like it's that big of a deal.

59. King K. Rool

This could have gone to Dixie Kong, or Cranky Kong, but I went with K. Rool. The Kremling King may not be the most relevant Donkey Kong character, being left out of the Donkey Kong Country games that were made by Retro, but he has a massive amount of material to work with. Over the course of his time in the Donkey Kong series, he's taken on numerous identities - aside from being a king, he's been a mad scientist, pirate, boxer, and pharaoh, among other titles, and each time, his boss battles have been completely unique.

I'd love to see Dixie or Cranky as playable characters in Smash Bros., but if I can only pick one Donkey Kong character, I'm going with the King - based on what each of them are capable of in their original games, I feel like K. Rool would be the most unique as a playable character, having much more to offer.

60. Medusa

While I could have gone with someone like Hades or Phosphora, I felt that, as Pit's oldest nemesis, Medusa deserved a chance at the spotlight. She was quickly marginalized in Uprising, but I feel that there's a lot to work with. Her boss fight in Uprising gives her a lot of attacks, including a detachable cyclops head that could easily work as a final smash, and she'd be quite different from the other playable villains (as few of them as there are). While Hades is unquestionably the more prominent villain (at least as far as Uprising is concerned), I feel like Medusa would be the more interesting choice (plus, I could see Hades, or his insides, working well as a stage, with Hades providing snarky commentary throughout the fight).

61. Porky

This one was actually inspired by a fan project. I was debating between Porky and the Mother 1 version of Giygas - I felt that a new character from the Mother series would be a nice inclusion, but while Porky acts as a bridge between the storylines of Earthbound and Mother 3, Giygas (the alien from Mother 1, not the giant demon cloud fetus thing from Earthbound) would represent the first game in the series (which would be kind of difficult to do with its main character, seeing as Ninten is basically Ness). However, seeing some sprites of Porky in his spider robot from the end of Earthbound (the sprites were on The Spriter's Resource forums for a Smash Bros. fan-game; though the sub-forum for that game seems to be taken down, the thread was archived, though I haven't found any images that work yet) really got me thinking about how well he would work and how different he'd be from the other playable Mother characters, which is why I chose him.

62. Mike Jones (StarTropics)

Star Tropics is an overlooked gem in the NES library. Admittedly, its exclusion from Smash Bros. up to this point makes sense to some degree - neither game in the series was released in Japan. However, the reverse (a game not being released outside of Japan) didn't seem to stop the inclusion of Marth and Roy in Melee, or Lucas in Brawl.

I figure Mike Jones would make a great retro rep akin to Mr. Game & Watch or Duck Hunt - a character who nobody really considered, but fits in seamlessly regardless of that.

63. Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight)

Joy Mech Fight is a pretty obscure NES game, but it's a Nintendo-made 2D fighting game. It takes pretty heavy inspiration from Mega Man (a mad scientist steals robots and uses them to take over the world, so a kind-hearted scientist converts a peaceful robot to a combat machine in order to stop the mad scientist), but it's got a quirky charm to it.

Given that Smash Bros. is Nintendo's major entry into the fighting game genre, it would be a nice reference to see Sukapon (the aforementioned peaceful robot) be included as a playable character. It's pretty clear that Nintendo has no problems with referring back to its roots, and much like the Ice Climbers, it would help to bring a one-off NES game out of obscurity.

64. Isaac (Golden Sun)

I'm not sure why he wasn't in Smash Bros. 4. While DLC's still an option, it seems strange to completely remove the entire Golden Sun series from Smash Bros., not even giving it a trophy, when it had a new game released between Brawl and SSB4. I've never even played a game in the Golden Sun franchise, and I know that there's a lot to work with as far as Isaac is concerned. Golden Sun definitely isn't an unpopular series - the fact that it has two sequels indicates that it must have sold fairly well, and Isaac is generally among the most requested characters that I've seen in discussions about Smash Bros.

65. Inkling (Splatoon)

Admittedly, it might be a bit early to start talking about Inkling, given that Splatoon isn't even out yet, but seeing as it's a new Nintendo-made IP, it definitely seems like they have a shot. Whether it's Olimar or Shulk, Smash Bros. not only gives more publicity to old forgotten Nintendo series, but also new ones that might not be as popular as the established franchises. Based on gameplay videos alone, there's a lot of potential as far as a character from Splatoon is concerned.

66. Ray (Custom Robo)

While there have been many versions of this robot throughout the series, Ray is the face of the Custom Robo franchise. Compared to his assist trophy appearance in Brawl, it would have to be scaled up, but that is hardly the first time that scale has been adjusted to make a character playable in Smash Bros. I'm not sure what else I have to say - it's an action-based Nintendo-owned franchise that, like Golden Sun, was completely removed from SSB4 for no apparent reason.

67. Wonder Red (The Wonderful 101)

One of the Wii U's hidden gems, The Wonderful 101 was an amazing and unique game. If anybody's going to represent it in Smash Bros., it seems most likely that it would be the team's leader, Wonder Red. Obviously, they couldn't make him exactly like his own game and have a hundred other superheroes following him around, but they could do something similar to Ness where he gets the Unite Morph abilities of his other team-mates. The game may not have sold well, but that's no excuse - Earthbound didn't sell well prior to Ness's inclusion in Smash Bros., and Fire Emblem was on the verge of cancellation before Awakening was released, so how well a series does doesn't seem to matter a whole lot as far as games like this are concerned.

68. Isa Jo (Sin & Punishment)

Much like the Wonderful 101, neither of the Sin & Punishment games have sold particularly well, but the team behind Smash Bros. is definitely aware of the series, keeping Saki as an assist trophy while other ATs have been removed. While Saki was the main character of the first game, if Sin & Punishment gets a playable character, I'd think that his son Isa would have more to work with, being able to jump and fly around in addition to having Saki's weapon and abilities. Either one of them, or Kachi from the second Sin & Punishment game, could work, but in any case, I feel that it would be great to have a character from Sin & Punishment playable in Smash Bros.; the series seemed to do well enough that it not only got a sequel, but that sequel was released overseas in spite of the first game being Japanese-exclusive prior to a Virtual Console release.

69. Bayonetta (Bayonetta) (Third Party)

I'm well aware of the complaints that people have about this character, and in another shameless bit of self-promotion, I tried to address them by making a moveset that would work within a E10 to T rating while still staying true to how Bayonetta fights in her own games. While she might be the longest shot on my list, I feel that Bayonetta's over-the-top and light-hearted nature would work well within Smash Bros.

Honestly, Nintendo has a great thing going with Platinum Games - they've collaborated on some fantastic titles in the past few years. Ironically, despite the hard M rating, Bayonetta 2 is arguably one of the most Nintendo-like games that I've seen by a third party company. It's vibrant and colourful, filled to the brim with easter eggs and references, packed full of detail, and it never really takes itself seriously. Admittedly, I'm working under the assumption that Bayonetta would represent Platinum Games, since they seem to have free reign with the character (she was included in games that Sega had nothing to do with), but while she's much newer than the third party characters that are currently in Smash Bros., she has so much to bring to the series that it would be a missed opportunity to not consider the idea.

70. Rayman (Rayman) (Third Party)

When the picture of the day showed that there was a Rayman trophy in Smash Bros., I was annoyed. If Nintendo has the rights to use Rayman in Smash Bros., it seemed like a waste to just put him in as a trophy as opposed to going all the way any making him playable. Finding out that Nintendo had the rights to publish Rayman games in Japan (making them Nintendo exclusive over there) helped to make sense of this decision, but it hasn't stopped me from wanting to see Rayman playable.

Looking at the Rayman Origins and Legends games alone, they basically give an entire list of basic attacks, meaning that a lot of the planning has more or less already been done. Admittedly, I haven't played Rayman 1 or 3, or even much of Rayman 2 (though I did get it for the Nintendo 64 recently), but there's so much to draw from here, and the games are so vibrant and put together so well that it would be a shame to not include him if they have the chance.

Going into this, I didn't intend to reach the limit of what was allowed, but I had so many ideas to work with. If you have any complaints about my choices or reasoning, feel free to let me know.
In the Brawl section, I just noticed that I forgot Lucas; if I'm keeping this within the 70 character limit, I'd remove Medusa from the newcomers list. (though I doubt it's a huge deal if I go one character over)

Other than that, my decisions haven't changed much since December. While I'd like to see Terra Branford from Final Fantasy 6 or Shovel Knight, those two aren't as big of a deal to me as the other third party characters that I listed. With the Roy and Ryu sound files being found since then, I could add those two, but unless Roy's gone through some major changes, I'm not overly interested in seeing him return, and while Ryu is basically the definitive fighting game character, his inclusion wouldn't excite me as much as Rayman or Bayonetta. (though of the two, I'd be more likely to get Ryu than Roy)
 

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Every character except Lucina, Doc, and Edgy Pit would return.
Mario, Wario, and Ganondorf would have almost completely redone movesets.
I'd have Wolf and IC's return.
Baby Bowser is added as a Yoshi character.
Doc Louis and Bald Bull are added.
Sheik and Zelda are now one character again, and they transform by taunting.
I'd make Ridley a stage hazard again. :troll:
Ninten is added.
Captain Syrup is added.
 
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Every character except Lucina, Doc, and Edgy Pit would return.
Mario, Wario, and Ganondorf would have almost completely redone movesets.
I'd have Wolf and IC's return.
Baby Bowser is added as a Yoshi character.
Doc Louis and Bald Bull are added.
Sheik and Zelda are now one character again, and they transform by taunting.
I'd make Ridley a stage hazard again. :troll:
Ninten is added.
Captain Syrup is added.
Mario redone? Exactly how?
 

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Mario redone? Exactly how?
He'd have attacks based off of Super Mario 64.
Here's my sort of redone moveset:
D-Tilt: the sweeping kick.
Dash attack: the forward slide attack (I forgot the name)

Fair: the same as the dash attack.
Nair: the air kick from SM64.
Dair: a ground pound from ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MARIO PLATFORMER.

Side B: the Winged Cap.
Up B:Balloon Mario.
Helpless animation: the spinning thing.

D-Smash: Mario jumps in place and does damage to whoever touches his feet.

The rest is the same as current Mario.
 
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For my completely hypothetical Smash 5 roster that will probably be on the Nintendo NX, here are my roster choices:

Veterans:
Everybody from Smash 4, (plus:wolf:) returns.

Transformations are removed once again.
Clones(:4darkpit::4lucina::4drmario:) return, but heavily changed to become more different from the originals.
:4ganondorf: gets an entirely new moveset closer to his appearences in the Legend of Zelda series.
:4tlink: gains new specials based off abilities he can do in the cartoony Zelda games.
Most of :4zelda:'s moveset gets reworked to be similar to her Project M incarnation, but with her Smash 4 down-b.
:4samus: gains her Melee nair, Project M ice beam switch taunt and dodges, and a few new attacks to give her more options.
:4falco:'s Final Smash has him use his arwing.
Mii Fighters are now merged into a more comprehensive fighter that can use any move in the game from any Fighter, similar to Combot in Tekken.
:4dk:'s Final Smash is now the beatdown he gives every boss in DKCR.
:4wario2: is now based on his Wario Land and Wario World incarnations, using his abilities from those games instead. :4wario: is the alternate costume this time.

Newcomers:
Captain Toad (Super Mario Bros) (Toad is one of the main characters of the Mario series alongside Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser. Has a Captain Toadette alt)
Inkling (Splatoon) (I sense that Splatoon will eventually become a really big Nintendo Ip. Has both Male and Female alts.)
Black Shadow (F-Zero) (He can have :4ganondorf:'s Smash 4 moveset.)
Impa (Legend of Zelda) (Probably the only Zelda character besides :4link:, :4zelda: and :4ganondorf: to appear in multiple games in the series.)
Sceptile (Pokemon) (Completes the Fire-Water-Grass chain with :4charizard: and :4greninja:.)
Tails (Sonic The Hedgehog) (The Sonic series has appeared in Smash twice before Smash 5, so now that it's a staple series, I figured it deserved another rep.)
King K. Rool (Donkey Kong) (Probably THE most requested newcomer in any Smash game ever.)
Bandana Dee (Kirby) (Needed to complete the Kirby team.)
Doc Louis (Punch Out) (Who wouldn't like to see the Doc back in action?)
Ashley (WarioWare) (Most requested WarioWare newcomer.)
Takamaru (Can't remember) (One of the new retro gaming reps.)
Dark Samus (Metroid) (We need more villains.)
Rayman (Rayman) (Ubisoft and Nintendo seem to be on good relations, enough for there to be Rayman trophies in Smash 4.)
Andy (Advance Wars) (He can have :snake:'s moveset.)

This is a rough idea of the roster, so it might change.
 

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:4wario2: is now based on his Wario Land and Wario World incarnations, using his abilities from those games instead. :4wario: is the alternate costume this time.
This is what I don't like about people's opinions on Wario. Removing WarioWare completely is absolutely stupid, as that game is just as important as Wario Land. Wario should be a good balance between Wario Land and WarioWare, and maybe a bit of the spinoffs.
 

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This is what I don't like about people's opinions on Wario. Removing WarioWare completely is absolutely stupid, as that game is just as important as Wario Land. Wario should be a good balance between Wario Land and WarioWare, and maybe a bit of the spinoffs.
Something like Project M's Wario?
 

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I got this idea from a Reddit user: Special grabs. They're done by pressing special while shielding, or grab and special. Only certain characters like Ganondorf, Bowser, and Wario get this. Chomp becomes the special grab,bike becomes neutral special, and Shoulder Bash becomes side special. EVERYONE WINS!
 

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I got this idea from a Reddit user: Special grabs. They're done by pressing special while shielding, or grab and special. Only certain characters like Ganondorf, Bowser, and Wario get this. Chomp becomes the special grab,bike becomes neutral special, and Shoulder Bash becomes side special. EVERYONE WINS!
Wario becomes recovery God.

Bike, jump cancel. Shoulder bash jump to hit the wall of the stage. Cork screw.
 

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Shoulder Bash causes helplessness. No longer recovery god.
Wait. I thought you DIDN'T get the helpless state if you hit a "wall" from a stage.

Was this a change because the last PM version I played was 3.0 before my Wii got fried by a thunderstorm?
 
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Wait. I thought you DIDN'T get the helpless state if you hit a "wall" from a stage.

Was this a change because the last PM version I played was 3.0 before my Wii got fried by a thunderstorm?
This is based off SSB4, not PM. You still get helpless after hitting a wall in SSB4.
 

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Mario Series
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Rosalina
Bowser Jr.
Dr. Mario
Wario
Waluigi
New Mario Character

DK Series
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Lanky Kong

Zelda Series
Link
Young Link (Melee moveset + the abillity to use MM masks)
Zelda
Sheik
Ganondorf (revamped moveset)
Toon Link
Impa

Metroid Series
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Dark Samus (Unique moveset, not a clone)

Yoshi Series
Yoshi
Birdo

Kirby Series
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Bandana Dee

Star Fox Series
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Krystal

Kid Icarus Series
Pit
Palutena
Dark Pit (Decloned)
Hades

Pokemon Series
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Charizard
Mewtwo
Lucario
Greninja
Popular 7/8/9th Generation Pokemon
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Pichu

Fire Emblem Series
Marth
Lucina
Robin
Roy (Decloned)
Lyn
Ike
Popular FE character from a future FE game

F-Zero Series
Captain Falcon (Black Shadow alt)

Earthbound Series
Ness
Lucas
Ninten

Other Nintendo Series
Little Mac
Mr. Game & Watch
Ice Climbers
Shulk
Isaac
Andy
Takamaru
Duck Hunt Duo
R.O.B
Villager
Olimar
Mii Fighter (More classes available)

Thrid Party Reps
Sonic
Solid Snake
Megaman
Pacman
Bomberman
Rayman
Ryu
Heihachi Mishima

*I made this list with bringing back all cut vets back to the series in mind
*Wario's series has been combined in to the Mario series
*If Street Fighter can have a rep, so can Tekken
Oh wait... What happen with Lucina? :awesome:
 

POKEMANSPIKA

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Veterans::4mario:,:4luigi:,:4peach:,:4bowser:,:4bowserjr:,:rosalina:,:4yoshi:,:4dk:,:4diddy:,:4wario2:(revamped),:4link:,:4zelda:,:4sheik:,:4ganondorf:(revamped),:4tlink:,:4samus:,:4zss:,:4kirby:,:4dedede:,:4metaknight:,:4pikachu:,:4charizard:,:4jigglypuff:,:4mewtwo:,:4lucario:,:4fox:,:4falco:,:wolf:,:4falcon:,:4ness:,:4lucas:,:4marth:,:4myfriends:,:4robinm:,:4feroy:,:4pit:,:4palutena:,:4littlemac:,:4villager:,:4wiifit:,:4shulk:,:4olimar:,:popo:,:4gaw:,:4rob:,:4duckhunt:,:4mii:,:4sonic:,:4megaman:,:4pacman:,

Newcomers:
50. Captain Toad
51. King K. Rool*
52. Impa
53. Tingle
54. Ridley
55. Meowth
56. Samurai Goroh
57. Krystal
58. Isaac*
59. Lip
60. Ray
61. Excitebiker
62. Inkling*
63. Marshal
64. Chibi-Robo
65. Andy
66. Bomberman

Wario would be revamped to have more moves from his Wario Land series of games. Ganondorf would be revamped to play more like he does in the Zelda series removing all moves except Side Special, Forward Tilt, FAir.

* means I think they'll be added in as Ballot characters.
Dr. Mario, Pichu, Young Link, Dark Pit, and Lucina are now alts for Mario, Marth, Pikachu, Toon Link, Pit, and Marth respectively. Alph and Koopalings are still alts for Olimar and Bowser Jr. Daisy has become an alt for Peach.
 
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[spoilers]

Mario
Luigi
Yoshi
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Ness
Captain Falcon

Princess Peach
Bowser
Princess Zelda
Sheik
Ganondorf
Falco
Mewtwo
Marth
Mr. Game & Watch

Diddy Kong
Wario
Toon Link
Zero Suit Samus
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Wolf
Lucas
Ike
Pit
Lucario
Charizard
Pikmin & Olimar
R.O.B.
Sonic

Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr.
Palutena
Greninja
Robin
Mega Man
Pac Man
Villager
Little Mac
Shulk
Duck Hunt [/spoilers]

Newcomers
[spoilers]
Toad
King K.Rool
Dixie Kong
Ganon
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Sceptile
Kumatora
Shantae
Banjo and Kazooie
Medusa
Isaac
Krystal
Wonder Red [/spoilers]
 
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[//SPOILERS: Veterans//

Mario
Luigi
Yoshi
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Ness
Captain Falcon

Princess Peach
Bowser
Princess Zelda
Sheik
Ganondorf
Falco
Mewtwo
Marth
Mr. Game & Watch

Diddy Kong
Wario
Toon Link
Zero Suit Samus
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Wolf
Lucas
Ike
Pit
Lucario
Charizard
Pikmin & Olimar
R.O.B.
Sonic

Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr.
Palutena
Greninja
Robin
Mega Man
Pac Man
Villager
Little Mac
Shulk
Duck Hunt//]

[// Newcomers//
Toad
King K.Rool
Dixie Kong
Ganon
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Sceptile
Kumatora
Shantae
Banjo and Kazooie
Medusa
Isaac
Krystal
Wonder Red//]

Wrong formatting. (spoilers) at the start and (/spoilers) at the end... in brackets.
 

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based on the current roster for smash 4 (with Lucas and Mewtwo)

All current characters return (including 3rd parties), with the exception of Dark Pit, who is an alt costume/voice for Pit, and Lucina, who is an alt of Marth if anything

Newcomers/returned from past games:

1. Ice Climbers (slightly reworked to make chain grabs impossible)
2. Medusa (Kid Icarus)
3. King K. Rool (Donkey Kong)
4. Sami (Advance Wars) [possibly given Snake's old moveset, if he's not returning, which is likely considering Kojima is no longer tied to the character]
5. Wolf (Star Fox)
6. Hector (Fire Emblem)
7. Skull Kid (Legend of Zelda)
8. One of the bounty hunters from Metroid Prime Hunters
9. Inkling (Splatoon)
 
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Am I the only one who's surprised by the number of people requesting Medusa? Not like I have a problem with it since she's extremely underrated in comparison to Hades and Viridi. :(
 

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Am I the only one who's surprised by the number of people requesting Medusa? Not like I have a problem with it since she's extremely underrated in comparison to Hades and Viridi. :(
Medusa IS the main Antagonist of Kid Icarus, and has FAR more to work with than either of those two.
 
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Medusa IS the main Antagonist of Kid Icarus, and has FAR more to work with than either of those two.
Debatable. Medusa is the most recurring villain but she is arguably not the main villain. Hades has been pulling the strings since the first one and while you can argue something like this is similar to Ganondorf and Demise, Ganondorf hasn't been manipulated by Demise. Yes ultimately almost everything has been from Demise which certainty amounts to something, he hasn't been manipulating Ganondorf. I'n addition to this, Ganondorf/Ganon has been in far more games than Demise. Medusa has been in more games than Hades but by only one game. I still think the arguments and reasoning of why people feel she is the main villain because she has been in more games and was the original villain is understandable but I think due to Hades importance to the events of Kid Icarus I feel he is the main villain. Also Hades has alot to work with. I'm pretty sure even more than Medusa who has around 11 moves. The truth is both characters have a good amount to work with and can be very unique.
 
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Meanwhile my viridi sits on the corner wishing she was as popular as the other 2 villains. :(


At least she managed to get in the guidances
. . . And the most likely future in other games
Wasn't there some reddit poll with over 4,000 people where Viridi got more votes than Hades and Medusa? I'm pretty sure I remember that but I can't find it.

EDIT: Found it.http://imgur.com/cmB6EUB
 
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Veterans::4mario::4link::4dk::4fox::4samus::4yoshi::4kirby::4pikachu::4luigi::4ness::4jigglypuff::4falcon:/:4bowser::4drmario::4falco::4ganondorf::4gaw::4marth::4mewtwo::4peach::4sheik::4zelda::popo::4tlink::pichumelee:/:4charizard::4dedede::4diddy::4myfriends::4pit::4lucario::4lucas::4metaknight::4olimar::4rob::4sonic::4wario::4zss::wolf::snake:/:4bowserjr::4duckhunt::4greninja::4littlemac::4lucina::4miibrawl::4miigun::4miisword::4megaman::4palutena::4pacman::rosalina::4shulk::4villager::4wiifit:.

:4drmario: has some more little difference from :4mario:, but mostly stats wise. He is 64/Melee :4mario:, but slower, stronger and cooler.
:4lucina:
is decloned. Now she has some Ike's movement, but she keeps the concept of Newcomer-Friendly Marth without the tip.
:4robinm:is dropped in favour of the latest FE protagonist (so not Kamui). Since it's probably going to be a magic Swordfighter. But if he isn't, :4robinm: gets low priority.

:roypm: returns only if he is really going to be back as DLc in Smash4. Otherwise, he will be a :4marth: alt.

:4darkpit:is now a :4pit: alt.

Also all future DLC characters of Smash 4 would be brought back.

Newcomers:
-King K. Rool
-Toad/Captain Toad
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Shantae
-Marshall
-New Pokemon Trainer (the onlly character with the switch gimn, and have :ivysaur:,:squirtle: and the most recent Fire starter. He also have different alts with Chikorita, Piplup and Blaziken as alts for the pokemons).
- New FE protagonist (could take :4robinm: moveset if similar enough, or being totally separated)
-Inkling
-Hades
-Prof. Layton

I can't think to anyone else that deserves to be in Smash 5 as for now.
 
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I'm gonna redo mine, as it was short and not very good.
Every character except Robin, Doc, and Edgy Pit would return.
I'd have Wolf and IC's return.
Baby Bowser is added as a Yoshi character.
Doc Louis and Bald Bull are added.
Sheik and Zelda are now one character again, and they transform by taunting.
I'd make Ridley a stage hazard again. :troll:
Ninten is added.
Captain Syrup is added.
Pokemon Trainer is added, but he actually fights instead of standing in the background.
Ganon is now a playable character, and Ganondorf can transform into him with his down taunt.
King K. Rool and Funky Kong are added.
Lucina would be changed. If Roy doesn't come back, Lucina uses Roy's exact moveset, minus teh PH1R3
Wario and Ganondorf would have almost completely redone movesets.
Wario is listed under "Wario" instead of specifically "WarioWare".
Pokemon Trainer is an actual fighter, not a guy that stands in the background.
 

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Everyone from Smash 4 (with exceptions)
Dr. Mario stays, gets a different final smash, has more thought put into him.
Dark Pit changes drastically, using a moveset based some of the other diverse range of weapons from Uprising (and any other Kid Icarus until then) including Final Smash. Would be all right with a costume and voice-over.
Lucina removed, as she is both a clone and a Fire Emblem character, and will not be relevant in five--eight years.
Wolf.
Ice Climbers. Because the new portable can support them.
Inkling
New Fire Emblem hero
ONE Pokémon from the most recent gen (preferably the Grass-type starter)
Medusa
Waluigi
Linebeck (not really)
Black Shadow (has Ganon's old moveset while Ganon has a new moveset based more around his magic and swordplay and other canonical abilities. I say this as both a Ganon main and a Legend of Zelda fan)
Mr. Sandman (Taller, stronger semi-clone of Mac without KO punch; slow down Mac, remove his super armor frames and give him a better recovery)
A character based more on hardware than an actual game franchise. (To keep up with tradition)
King K. Rool (for keeping fans happy and for more villains)
Other characters once they exist as the next few years unfold.
Snake
Geno
Lana
Phoenix Wright(?)

Change Tournament mode to encompass different style brackets and Best of Blank rounds.
Remembers what rules you left it on. (Alternatively, allows you to set your own default rules)
Change menu layout back to how Brawl did it.
Story mode similar to Subspace Emissary with it's CGI cutscenes and voice-acting dependent on the characters (Star Fox/Kid Icarus get full voices, Zelda/EarthBound get scrolling text)

If I had the option, I would run a short animated series (simulcasted all over the world) during production to hype up the game, reveal characters, tie (loosely) into the story mode, and possibly bring in some our less interactive brothers.
 
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If the fans were in charge of roster picking for an upcoming smash, then rest in peace Smash Bros.
 

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Sad thing is this may be one of the more logical rosters I ever seen, alot of the ones I've seen have Geno, Ridley, Klonoa and Goku in them X_X Also if you're wondering who this "Ai" girl is replacing the Villager, She was from the Animal Crossing film. She has the same moveset as Villager though, don't worry. Her boyfriend, Yu is an alternate coustume.

Notes: Each Pokemon Trainer alt. costume has all 3 starters from their respected generation, Such as Dawn comes with Piplup, Chimchar and Turtwig.

Pac-Man has a revamped moveset based on the Pac-Man World games. Ms. Pac-Man was given her own slot as she has Pac's Sm4sh moveset for veterans. =)

Also Jigglypuff is nerfed back to her Brawl self. Melee jigs is not comming back. =U
 
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Sad thing is this may be one of the more logical rosters I ever seen, alot of the ones I've seen have Geno, Ridley, Klonoa and Goku in them X_X Also if you're wondering who this "Ai" girl is replacing the Villager, She was from the Animal Crossing film. She has the same moveset as Villager though, don't worry. Her boyfriend, Yu is an alternate coustume.

Notes: Each Pokemon Trainer alt. costume has all 3 starters from their respected generation, Such as Dawn comes with Piplup, Chimchar and Turtwig.

Pac-Man has a revamped moveset based on the Pac-Man World games. Ms. Pac-Man was given her own slot as she has Pac's Sm4sh moveset for veterans. =)
I don't want to sound rude, but you call your roster possibly one of the most logical ones, yet your roster has:
- 14 third-parties
- Three different Pokemon for each Pokemon Trainer alt
- Character from Animal Crossing film replacing Villager... has she even appeared in any AC game?
 
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Sad thing is this may be one of the more logical rosters I ever seen, alot of the ones I've seen have Geno, Ridley, Klonoa and Goku in them X_X Also if you're wondering who this "Ai" girl is replacing the Villager, She was from the Animal Crossing film. She has the same moveset as Villager though, don't worry. Her boyfriend, Yu is an alternate coustume.

Notes: Each Pokemon Trainer alt. costume has all 3 starters from their respected generation, Such as Dawn comes with Piplup, Chimchar and Turtwig.

Pac-Man has a revamped moveset based on the Pac-Man World games. Ms. Pac-Man was given her own slot as she has Pac's Sm4sh moveset for veterans. =)

Also Jigglypuff is nerfed back to her Brawl self. Melee jigs is not comming back. =U
Dude, this isn't logical at all.
 

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Sad thing is this may be one of the more logical rosters I ever seen, alot of the ones I've seen have Geno, Ridley, Klonoa and Goku in them X_X Also if you're wondering who this "Ai" girl is replacing the Villager, She was from the Animal Crossing film. She has the same moveset as Villager though, don't worry. Her boyfriend, Yu is an alternate coustume.

Notes: Each Pokemon Trainer alt. costume has all 3 starters from their respected generation, Such as Dawn comes with Piplup, Chimchar and Turtwig.

Pac-Man has a revamped moveset based on the Pac-Man World games. Ms. Pac-Man was given her own slot as she has Pac's Sm4sh moveset for veterans. =)

Also Jigglypuff is nerfed back to her Brawl self. Melee jigs is not comming back. =U
And this is why I say letting the fans make the roster would lead to R.I.P Smash Bros
 
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