If it is online, it will be inevitable...

[Serpit]

...Fakers, anyone?

That's the first real topic I made here on Smashboards, and this point has been bugging me for a long time. Like presumably 99% of the Smash community, I hope for an Online Mode in SSBB. But with it comes the problem of newbies pretending to be pros. By Name.

What do you think Nintendo will do or should do to prevent every second noob calling himself Ken or Isai online?

The first idea that comes to my mind is obviously name registration. You register your name and name tag, and it is not available for anyone else. However, that brings up other problems. Now, what prevents the first noob to buy this game from registering the name Ken for himself? There's a chance we will see Kens and Isais and Azens duking it out before the actual Ken, Isai and Azen even bought the game.
This worked for other games because they didn't already have an established community and a great number of notable names that most advanced Smashers know. Another question would be if there is a difference between actual name and name tag, and which of them would be protected. If Online Mode would only show tags, then increasing the limit of letters would be a must. 4 letters is laughable, especially when the game is so popular. 6 at least, maybe 8-10. Or registered nicknames and smaller tags. Both fine possibilities, but the same problem remains: Noobs calling themselves after Pros for bragging rights.

A way to distinguish Pros from Noobs would be a renking system. If there are 300 Kens online, you could be pretty sure that the one at the top of the list is the real deal. However, I believe that Sakurai stated that they didn't want to implement a ranking system if they put online mode in. In my humble opinion, a ranking system would deliver a good solution to this problem. Of course it would bring a whole lot of other problems with it, but I personally could live with that.

Your input? I think it's quite a delicate topic, and one of the big hirdles Nintendo has to overcome if they want a successfull online mode in this game.

Greetz
Serp

 

[Keige]

There are no unique names. Everyone can be Ken. And isn't the name Ken uses online "Sephirothken"?
And there are no rankings.

 

[Kerocola]

There is also a topic called "Downsides of Online Gameplay", first page. This could go there. Considering a new member, you ahven't seen a lot of the online topics but if you use the search button, you'll find a lot.

Ranking system isn't a good idea, hackers, D/Cers, people could get their friends to raise their rank...also, the name doesn't matter. You aren't REGISTERED by a name, but by a Wii Number. You can put wahtever name you want. Ken might not be the best in Brawl, you enver know. He's good enough you can distinguish if it is a fake or not, but you won't register by names, so you can just slap one on as you fight, just like in Melee. You just don't see your opponent. Most of the major tournaments, I assume, will be in person. And if it became so much of a problem, the pros would have their own Wii Number info out so you know who is fake and who isn't. (Am I right about the Wii Number thing? I am a little new to the Wii...I think that's correct.)

In closing, I don't think online should be for serious play. For fighting friends you can't reach, or by people you wanted to fight on a forum, and to practice. If there is too much "online problems", just get together in person.

 

[MikeMoney]

man that sux everyones gonna be using ken and isai now especially without a ranking system

 

[Serpit]

@Keige:
I am aware that he goes by the name "Sephirothken". But he is more widely known as simply Ken.

@Kerocola:
Well, I am not so new, I just rarely come here xD
In case I've been misunderstood, I only mentioned Ken because he's very well known. Replace his name with every other established Pro, same thing really. Not saying that he or Isai are necessarily the best players in the world.

I hadn't thought about the Wii Friend Code (I think that's what it's called). That's a good point. Let's hope that Nintendo isn't sloppy here and actually integrates an intelligent online system that make it easy to memorize other players.

@MikeMoney:
I guess you are sarcastic. Again, I only cited Ken and Isai because of their reputation. Could be any other Pro. There are already people out there pretending to be them, so ONline will make it worse without a doubt.

 

[pikachun00b7]

Don't play them . Ken, Isai,PC, M2k,Azen,etc.(including future pros) will post there friend codes here will so we know BEFOREHAND who we play.

 

[Kerocola]

Okay, then I think I've covered the whole topic. As I stated and another member, if it becomes that much of a problem, the real friend code of the pro will be posted and known.
Anyway, that's fine if you rarely come here, but just be careful before you make a topic, people can get nasty with that.

 

[Serpit]

Actually, I am relieved I made this topic. I really forgot about the Friend Codes, so that thing doesn't really bother me anymore. Fakers will still exist, just as noobs and flamers, but at least competetive players will know who the real Pros are ;D

Yeah, that topic is pretty much covered. Thanks to everyone who gave a productive answer. And to be honest, it's not really one of those questions that is discussed in every second topic :D

 

[Vampirekain]

Guys guys relax a bit! Now I don't know about tha nickname Isai but Ken or even Sephiroth and the combination between the two are a bit common.So even though one of the best gamers in melee is called SephirothKen another smaller player could be called that long before the smash king took upon that nickname! Take for example my name! I've seen variations of my name in several different MORPGs including WoW and Lineage2. The nickname doesn't make the player,the skill does.

 

[BentoBox]

Ken is far from being an original name when it comes to display names in online games, sry much. We'll prolly have as much sephiroths running around.

 

[pikachun00b7]

The REAL problem though is all the agitation pros will get with all the requests.

 

[Wrath`]

i'll stick with TwoK

 

[cyberdemon]

Just play them, and if they suck, they're obviously not the real Ken or Isai

 

[Creo]

I'll stick with Creo...
^^^^Exactly. If there is a ranking system and someone hacks to raise it, they'll just get pwnd when they have a match and not play again or just drop dramatically.
And if it's a n00b especially talking junk or something, just face them and you'll find out if they are the real deal... Don't be so worried.
(is there going to be a microphone set to talk to players online or no... I think there should be)

 

[HideousBeing]

What I expect is that each player will have a screenname that could be up to, heck, 16 characters or something. Then they would just have their own name tag. So, like I, would have the screenname "HideousBeing", and my name tag would be "HIDS" or something like that. When joining a game, the screennames and the name tags display in the player slots, as everyone joins before the game begins. The character and color of each player would be displayed here as well. During the game, the screennames would not show up, only the name tags- but since each character is assigned a color in the pre-channel, you would just remember. For example: You are joining a team battle. Both players against you are Link. Both players have different screennames, but the same name tag. Both Links, however, are different colors of course (I'm assuming they won't allow the "same color" bug in Brawl). So you note which screenname corresponds with each colored Link (if it even matters) and then you know which is which during the match. So if each player had complete, up to 16 character screennames in channels, everyone would soon know which one was Ken, there being only one sreenname possible for each player.

 

[DarkFr0g]

Dude, there won't be public usernames. Everyone you match up against in public will be "Guest" and will be completely random, like presumably in the new Strikers. It sucks, but ey, that's Nintendo.

 

[Creo]

I just want to be able to pick who you want to face in that category(Free for All, 1vs1, etc). Also, If they don't have Rank systems, they should have score displays of wins, losses, KO's, etc. If this happens, everyone will be able to face each other but if their Rank is too high you'll no not to challenge them if you don't want to.

 

[LavisFiend]

LoL. My name is unique! ^.^ AND I am not well known >=D FOOSHA-POW N00blets?

but to get on topic; yes... wii #'s... they will distinguish everyone where names can not.

but I ain't too worried as I won't get online for a long time due to my location.

 

[Creo]

...Uuummmm... You can just get Wi Fi into your Computer so your Wii will get a connection...

 

[LavisFiend]

...Uuummmm... You can just get Wi Fi into your Computer so your Wii will get a connection...

Um, yea, I could do that, but I don't have cable/dsl, because they don't run that service out where I live, so what's the point?

 

[Evil E.]

But maybe there will be some Mic that you can speak in...
then you could identify who you are playing
Come on not everyone can imitate their voices

 

[Creo]

Um, yea, I could do that, but I don't have cable/dsl, because they don't run that service out where I live, so what's the point?

Calm the **** down...Geez. And if that's the case, were you live sucks.(jk mildly)

 

[WR3K]

let them fake....... just dont trust any kens then


their fighting skill will speak for themselves

 

[Xsyven]

Maybe Ken, Isai, and Azen will suck at Brawl?

 

[Creo]

Exactly... If your online and afraid of Ken, get off online, develop your skills and challenge every Ken that stands in your way until you know the real one. Thats what I'm going to do. Destroy imposter Kens... who's with me!!

 

[DeeDoubleU]

That sounds entirely ******** and moronic :D

 

[Creo]

Me or the fact that Xsyven said Ken, Isai, and Azen might suck at Brawl.

 

[LavisFiend]

Calm the **** down...Geez. And if that's the case, were you live sucks.(jk mildly)

I am not mad at all?

and it does suck where I live, they consider where I live the boondocks or some sort, as just 7 miles ahead they supply dsl/cable to those houses...

Can't wait to move into a dorm XD

 

[DeeDoubleU]

Me or the fact that Xsyven said Ken, Isai, and Azen might suck at Brawl.

Destroy imposter Kens... who's with me!!

I know its supposed to sound cheesy... hence :D

 

[Serpit]

Me or the fact that Xsyven said Ken, Isai, and Azen might suck at Brawl.

That one, I guess >_>

Unless the controls are reversed or something there's not a snowball's chance in hell that will happen.

 

[Creo]

I know its supposed to sound cheesy... hence :D

I'm just saying what we should do to the imposters...

 

[Fastinyoh]

Calm the **** down...Geez. And if that's the case, were you live sucks.(jk mildly)

Gotta say this made me laugh when I saw it. The guy you wrote this to was being about as calm as possible.

 

[Creo]

Not with big letters!!!(geez)

 

[LavisFiend]

Not with big letters!!!(geez)

I am typing in size 2 font, how on earth are they big? o.O

 

[Tera253]

the easiest way to tell who's the real Ken is this:
if a Marth does a shine-to-knee-to-turnip-to-needle-to-0-death combo on you, then you know it's the real Ken. (yes, Ken can really do allthat with Marth)
~Tera253~

 

[Mic_128]

But maybe there will be some Mic that you can speak in...

I'm warning you all now: Do not try and talk into me.

Besides, online's going to be for fun only, no one's gonna believe "I beat Ken on teh internets" unless Ken himself posts agreeing with it, and I doubt he'll be doing that.

 

[HideousBeing]

I'm pretty sure there will some way for every player online to have some difference. Someone mentioned Wii #'s. Maybe that's how each player will be unique. We would know the real Ken, buy his Wii #.

 

[h2ownage]

i was really cut deep when i heard there was no ranking system for brawl online.
i hope it gets implemented by surprise...

 

[Wrath`]

yes but if there is then people will have the felling they suck if there low,strong peeps will never play weak peeps and then weak peeps will never get better.

Basicly it zaps the fun out of it.

Sometimes i spit into my mic

 

[Creo]

I'm warning you all now: Do not try and talk into me.

Besides, online's going to be for fun only, no one's gonna believe "I beat Ken on teh internets" unless Ken himself posts agreeing with it, and I doubt he'll be doing that.

Lol and yes thats true.(is he on these boards..?)

yes but if there is then people will have the felling they suck if there low,strong peeps will never play weak peeps and then weak peeps will never get better.

Basicly it zaps the fun out of it.

Sometimes i spit into my mic

1: I'm sure a lot of people would love to smash the n00bs like me.(still would be fun)

2: If they think they suck, tell them to play more or don't complain.

3: Thats discusting.