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I want the Advanced Basics please

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Sol9000

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Hi. I am new to Competitive Gameplay. I need advice. What are absolute Basics I should know about how to successfully play Super Smash Bros. Brawl Competitively? :)

Some Guidelines so I don't get confused:

  1. First, what do I do? Explain the definition so I have a goal to reach.
  2. Next, how do I do it? What is the button combination I need the tactic/whatever off?
  3. Then, when/where do I use it? Define a scenario in Final Destination where this would be useful for me.
  4. Now, who do I use it with? I originally mained Meta Knight, Sonic, and Captain Falcon when I first joined this forum. Now I'm reconsidering ditching CF and maybe even Sonic for Kirby, Pikachu, and I'm not sure what else. So keep everything Kirby and Meta Knight for know, ok?
  5. Finally, what/where/when/etc is a good place/time/etc to practice this? I don't wanna find out my shiny new skills are useless after I perfect them.
  6. Be calm with this. I don't wanna Copy/Paste this to a new area so I get safer results
  7. This is a Help Thread. Not an Arguing Thread. If you disagree with someone, post you're own helpful guide. It all helps...
Thanks for helping me out... Hopefully, everything will go without a hitch.
 

Mr. game and watch

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Metaknight is banned from tournaments.

Except in... Arizona?

I suggest maining one character and practicing him the most.

Then, head down to brawl character discussion, and read the competitive guide for the character you want to play.

Just keep in mind, 80+% of the time, in brawl, you want to camp a lot. That's how you get good.
Play defensively and punish your opponents mistakes.
Just ask if they use terms you don't know, we have a lot of brawl slang.

:phone:
 

Sol9000

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Metaknight is banned from tournaments.

Except in... Arizona?

I suggest maining one character and practicing him the most.

Then, head down to brawl character discussion, and read the competitive guide for the character you want to play.

Just keep in mind, 80+% of the time, in brawl, you want to camp a lot. That's how you get good.
Play defensively and punish your opponents mistakes.
Just ask if they use terms you don't know, we have a lot of brawl slang.

:phone:
Ok, so does practicing Kirby mean with CPUs or other players?

How do I camp?
I don't know what counts as mistakes or how to punish them
I do... Say, what do Sharking and Planking mean
 

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Check out the Kirby forum and find vids of awesome Kirbys to see what kinda habits you should be developing.

Sharking = attacking through the floor from under the stage. You can do it a lot on Halberd, Delphino, Brinstar, RC, and others.

Planking = Camping the ledge and using the invincibility frames from grabbing the ledge to avoid conflict, and throw out attacks only when completely safe.

Fun Fact: Ike can drop off the ledge and UpB to hit his opponent from below before popping back onto the ledge. This is both Sharking AND Planking, and he can do it on any stage he wants! :awesome:
 

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http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=135870

With this series, I hope to cover all the basics. It's going to be over a slow period of time, but it's because I want you to have time to take in all the information you learn and become able to actually apply it. Keep up with it because I believe it will help in your long run to becoming great.

edit: However, here are a few things you can do that will help that better apply to your situation now. First, pick one or two characters. It's easily to manage them and actually learn the game compared to shifting your attention between multiple characters. Also, make sure that they are the ones that you enjoy most. Don't worry about things like tiers or match-up because most of those don't apply to newer players anyway and playing a character you truly enjoy will make you want to learn more. Just worry about simple things, like getting moves out properly and being able to hit with the part of the move that you want to and AT's can be important, but most players tend to believe those are going to benefit them the most in the long run and focus on them way to much. That developes bad habits of overusing them, so I recommend it best to stay away from them at the start then when you are more comfortable at the game (which I'm talking about a few months from now, not next week) then slowly work in and practice the AT that are most important for your characters. That should keep you occupied for more than enough time. Plus, keep up with that blog because it will cover topics that newer players often neglect, yet are the most important for correct growth.

Good luck
 

Mr. game and watch

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Other players over CPU's if you can.

CPU's are ok... As far as learning the move set of each character.
Find some local tournaments and go play, it's really the best way to improve.

:phone:
 

Sol9000

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Other players over CPU's if you can.

CPU's are ok... As far as learning the move set of each character.
Find some local tournaments and go play, it's really the best way to improve.

:phone:
Tournaments are sparse around me and my Wii hates my Internet Modem. CPUs it is until I can get either
 

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It doesn't just have to be to tournaments, just human experience will help you improve much more than CPUs. I have friends who reference this site and they give me good practice at improving how I can play offensively or defensively.
 

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Yeah, any friends who play.

The Ruleset has an 8 minute timer. So you have 8 minutes to beat your opponent.
Take your time.
Camping means don't just run and gun, with Kirby use a Back air(bair) and push back away from your opponent. This is called weaving.
Move at him the the air, bair, move away and land.

This allows you to hit him and getting out of range of him hitting you.

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That can be applied to any character in reality.
But either way it is really good to know for characters with lesser priority to keep consistent spacing.
Once you do get the hang of weaving you can start playing around with how aggressive/defensive you want to be.
Having a solid defensive game in Brawl is REALLY REALLY good because of Brawl's pacing, especially because then you can be prepared for aggression and develop your own offensive game.
 

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the only thing(much like i explained in the topic about facing cpus) IMO that cpus are good for, is teaching the timing on things like the ice climbers chaingrab, or footstoool setups...

that is literally about it.

everything else imaginable it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better to face a real person, cpus don't play like a real player at all whatsoever(except maybe weegee....evil level 9 ******* weegee.) a good example are the ice climbers and metaknight cpus, neither of which play even remotely how a real player is gonna play these characters.
 

Sol9000

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the only thing(much like i explained in the topic about facing cpus) IMO that cpus are good for, is teaching the timing on things like the ice climbers chaingrab, or footstoool setups...

that is literally about it.

everything else imaginable it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better to face a real person, cpus don't play like a real player at all whatsoever(except maybe weegee....evil level 9 ******* weegee.) a good example are the ice climbers and metaknight cpus, neither of which play even remotely how a real player is gonna play these characters.
I know only one friend who plays Smash Bros. My Wii and Internet Connection do not mix. CPUs are, In your opinion, insufficient. There are no Tournaments that I trust that are in my area.

What Now?
 

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I know only one friend who plays Smash Bros. My Wii and Internet Connection do not mix. CPUs are, In your opinion, insufficient. There are no Tournaments that I trust that are in my area.

What Now?
Find a way to get your internet and wii to mix, you can buy a land adapter with an ethernet cord if you need to.

You aren't going to get anything except tech skill playing CPU's, its true people like Nairo and M2K have thousands of hour splaying them and achieving success...but they also have a lot people experience as well.

You don't trust the tournaments in your area? Any tournament posted on this site or allisbrawl currently are reputable (to the best of my knowledge there have been very few tournament instances involving the hosts themselves).

You have to have an open mind about how we're trying to help you.
 

Sol9000

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Find a way to get your internet and wii to mix, you can buy a land adapter with an ethernet cord if you need to.

You aren't going to get anything except tech skill playing CPU's, its true people like Nairo and M2K have thousands of hour splaying them and achieving success...but they also have a lot people experience as well.

You don't trust the tournaments in your area? Any tournament posted on this site or allisbrawl currently are reputable (to the best of my knowledge there have been very few tournament instances involving the hosts themselves).

You have to have an open mind about how we're trying to help you.
It's not that. I can connect the Wii to it just fine. It's just a matter of staying connected long enough to actually play SSBB.

CPUs are out of the picture. Please don't bring them back up.

The only SmashBoards tournament people will willingly link me to is Colorado Smash. I do not trust it. Why? It's likely no longer running correctly and a slight chance of being a casual gamer area. Yes, I said it. I don't like playing against casual gamers. If I'm gonna have Meta Knight handed to me on a silver platter.
 

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You're just being stubborn now. If you don't go to tournaments, or at least play against wifi players, you aren't going to improve. Since you say Wifi is off the table due to having a bad connection, you are left with tournaments. Don't be so overly critical of a tourney scene you have absolutely no experience with. Find a tourney near you, and go to it. If you're unwilling to do that, you aren't gonna improve. It's that simple.

Doing your homework on advanced techniques, and learning your options and whatnot WILL help you improve. But if one guy is all you have to play against, it'll only help you learn to beat that one guy. You gotta find people to play so you can properly apply your knowledge to your gameplay. Going to tournaments, or local smashfests is the best way to find people to play. Casual or not.
 
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