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I need critique/help =0

BigLøu

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For playing against meta. Heres a recent vid of me at a tourney, and once again i lose to a meta. Any critque on what im doin wrong or how i can improve against meta is aprreciated =D. ( the match against meta is near the end of this vid, but feel free to watch the whole thing if u wanna critque anything else).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut_Q9HBgjVI
 

elheber

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I don't have much to say glass, your Luigi is pretty top notch. I did notice you used bThrow a lot more than you should. That should be your KO throw, not your damage buildup throw.
 

BigLøu

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I don't have much to say glass, your Luigi is pretty top notch. I did notice you used bThrow a lot more than you should. That should be your KO throw, not your damage buildup throw.
Hmm that is a good idea. I just recently noticed the knockback potential of it and it wouldbe better if i didnt waste it as much.

Thnx =D
 

VanillaWaffle

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first off, great luigi you got there

the only thing i would add would be more d smash. luigis d smash is a great sliding move and great for killing and damage building, doesnt have a lot of ending lag or start up lag for being punished either. try adding some sliding down smashs imo.
 

CR4SH

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I really like your luigi. You're probably better than I am, but I think I still have a couple things to add.

Stop rolling behind people, I didn't see it do good things for once in that video. And the best result you got out of it was meta rolling away from you.

I personally think Dair is a better option in your shorthops (where you throw fairs). It comes out on the same frame (I think) and it's hitbox extends lower. It does 1 more damage, and it's knockback is better (lower at lower% and higher at higher ones).

You ought to learn to throw a fireball into your game. Possibly your shorthop aerial to a landing fireball. A shorthopped fireball into your tornados. I don't have any real suggestions beyond that, but learning to throw them in now and again varies your playstyle (in your oppoent's mind) without you really having to do much. Lanuigis combo video is a good place to look.

One last thing, nair would have killed that meta alot sooner. And you telegraphed all those bairs.

Great stuff dude. You're really quick. Your fundamentals are solid. Do us all proud.
 

elheber

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Hmm that is a good idea. I just recently noticed the knockback potential of it and it wouldbe better if i didnt waste it as much.

Thnx =D
Yeah, for damage buildup you use dThrow, then follow it up by quickly jumping and juggleing them with aerials. Even with just a dThrow to uAir, you will have caused more damage than a bThrow.
 

TheMann

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You need Meta help huh? Don't we all. lol

Anyways you have a real solid Luigi man. Aerial game down, you know when to smash, and how to space.
As for advice, I guess a nair would have killed meta earlier. Also don't be scared and try to take control of the match. IMO you're doing good and it was your match to win until Meta dair'ed you off of the ledge.
 

ALiAsVee

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You need Meta help huh? Don't we all. lol

Anyways you have a real solid Luigi man. Aerial game down, you know when to smash, and how to space.
As for advice, I guess a nair would have killed meta earlier. Also don't be scared and try to take control of the match. IMO you're doing good and it was your match to win until Meta dair'ed you off of the ledge.
I get that too, it's always my match until meta gets me off the stage xD.
 

BigLøu

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You need Meta help huh? Don't we all. lol

Anyways you have a real solid Luigi man. Aerial game down, you know when to smash, and how to space.
As for advice, I guess a nair would have killed meta earlier. Also don't be scared and try to take control of the match. IMO you're doing good and it was your match to win until Meta dair'ed you off of the ledge.
Yea its just when mk has momentum of the match i just start losin it and playin sloppy. Nair is a move i over look too much and only use when i want combos, but ur right in that i need to realize its KO potential especially against a lightweight like metaknight.

I really like your luigi. You're probably better than I am, but I think I still have a couple things to add.

Stop rolling behind people, I didn't see it do good things for once in that video. And the best result you got out of it was meta rolling away from you.

I personally think Dair is a better option in your shorthops (where you throw fairs). It comes out on the same frame (I think) and it's hitbox extends lower. It does 1 more damage, and it's knockback is better (lower at lower% and higher at higher ones).

You ought to learn to throw a fireball into your game. Possibly your shorthop aerial to a landing fireball. A shorthopped fireball into your tornados. I don't have any real suggestions beyond that, but learning to throw them in now and again varies your playstyle (in your oppoent's mind) without you really having to do much. Lanuigis combo video is a good place to look.

One last thing, nair would have killed that meta alot sooner. And you telegraphed all those bairs.

Great stuff dude. You're really quick. Your fundamentals are solid. Do us all proud.
Rolling behind people does seem to be my bane. Your right i have to cut that out. My fireball game is pretty weak, and i should start takin advantage of the different possiibilities that the fireballs can do.
 

sMexy-Blu

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Yea its just when mk has momentum of the match i just start losin it and playin sloppy. Nair is a move i over look too much and only use when i want combos, but ur right in that i need to realize its KO potential especially against a lightweight like metaknight.


Rolling behind people does seem to be my bane. Your right i have to cut that out. My fireball game is pretty weak, and i should start takin advantage of the different possiibilities that the fireballs can do.
When I fight non-projetile users(Ike ,Capt.Falcon ,MetaKnight, etc) I always take advantage of Luigi's projectile and also use it as a clever mindgame.
 

sMexy-Blu

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You need Meta help huh? Don't we all. lol

Anyways you have a real solid Luigi man. Aerial game down, you know when to smash, and how to space.
As for advice, I guess a nair would have killed meta earlier. Also don't be scared and try to take control of the match. IMO you're doing good and it was your match to win until Meta dair'ed you off of the ledge.
MetaKnight is sucha a big bonner!! XDDD
 
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