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Adam M!

Smash Lord
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if they get offended for being wrong, then it's a lesson they really need to learn!
Who are you to teach such a lesson?

Also you are again avoiding the questions. Why do you avoid my questions? Do you find them difficult to answer? (I'll answer that for you: Yes you do, because actions speak louder than words! The question is why do you find them difficult to answer?)

i'm not sure
Maybe you should explore that for yourself!

it's not like correcting people on the internet is my only pursuit!
Nor did I claim as such. ;)

but typically the result of a discussion is that MULTIPLE people know more than when it started! so it seems like a great way to increase knowledge not only for yourself but for others as well!
Ah, but is that really your intention or a pleasant byproduct? It is your intentions I seek to learn about!

it absolutely is!
And where does that challenge get you?

In my experience it results in confrontation, and when humans feel confronted they get defensive! How many productive conversations result out of defensiveness? After all, you are aiming for some kind of productive result, right?

you're really pointing out how YOU PERCEIVE them to be wrong!
Am I?

maybe your perceptions are out of whack
Perception is reality. My perception is my reality! You as the speaker must take responsibility for what you allowed me to perceive!

this thread sucks now
Don't read it then! I will have to report your post for trolling!

What are you hoping to gain out of stating such a thing? The only thing I can think of is attention! Well, you got it! But any negative comments in the future will receive no such thing from me; instead I shall just report them!

I created this topic so I shall do what I wish with it.
 

tarheeljks

Smash Lord
Joined
Dec 18, 2006
Messages
1,857
Location
land of the free
i should have been more clear and said subjective statements, not just statements

And I am questioning what they are taught!

In my experience eschewing such qualifications implicitly teaches that their opinions are the only valid opinions. All that serves to do, again imo, is to attach people to said opinions! Sheridan Z mentioned that people tend to consider their individual opinions on matters as part of their self; this is exactly why if you ask me!
if anything, noting that thoughts represent opinions in this manner would increase attachment via reinforcement of possession, but that's a different discussion. i can't argue with your experience, but i don't see why this need be true in a general sense. many statements are inherently/obviously subjective. such statements are by definition opinions not facts, so further clarification using phrases like "i think" isn't necessary, though it can be useful


Implied to whom? To the person saying it or to the person they are speaking to?
both parties. in most styles of (formal) debate it is understood that w/e you say will be interpreted as an opinion unless it is purely objective.

Again, to whom?
not sure what you mean here

The best way to make that understood? To clearly state as such! So thank you for doing so. =)
well my point is that it is already understood, or can be, due to the definitions of opinion and fact


edit: also, you were nitpicking pretty severely. i don't see how his statement can be viewed as a statement of fact
 

Adam M!

Smash Lord
Joined
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i should have been more clear and said subjective statements, not just statements
I accept your apology!

if anything, noting that thoughts represent opinions in this manner would increase attachment via reinforcement of possession
Is that a fact?

i can't argue with your experience
Nor am I asking you to!

but i don't see why this need be true in a general sense.
Does anything need be true?

many statements are inherently/obviously subjective.
Is that a fact?

so further clarification using phrases like "i think" isn't necessary, though it can be useful
Says who? Specify!

both parties. in most styles of (formal) debate it is understood that w/e you say will be interpreted as an opinion unless it is purely objective.
Who says this is "(formal) debate"?

not sure what you mean here
Then ask me!

well my point is that it is already understood
To whom?

Is this conversation not proving otherwise?

edit: also, you were nitpicking pretty severely.
Is that a fact?

To me I was merely asking questions!

i don't see how his statement can be viewed as a statement of fact
Why don't you ask?
 

pockyD

Smash Legend
Joined
Jul 21, 2006
Messages
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Location
San Francisco, CA
Who are you to teach such a lesson?

Also you are again avoiding the questions. Why do you avoid my questions? Do you find them difficult to answer? (I'll answer that for you: Yes you do, because actions speak louder than words! The question is why do you find them difficult to answer?)
i'm not the one teaching them the lesson! it's the cruel harsh world!

if you touch a stove and burn yourself, did the stove teach you a lesson? no! science did!

Maybe you should explore that for yourself!

Nor did I claim as such. ;)
I do! But just because I experiment with one approach does not mean I should abandon another!

Ah, but is that really your intention or a pleasant byproduct? It is your intentions I seek to learn about!
Actions (and consequently, results) are all that matter! Even the worst of people had the best of intentions!

And where does that challenge get you?
it doesn't get me anywhere unless the person being challenged has a useful response! the real motivation is that it should get the challengee a new insight into the subject! it's not all about me!

In my experience it results in confrontation, and when humans feel confronted they get defensive! How many productive conversations result out of defensiveness? After all, you are aiming for some kind of productive result, right?
I'm not here to coddle! If they're not ready or not accepting of my approach, it's their loss!

You will never learn anything new if you are unwilling to have your existing notions challenged!

yes!

Perception is reality. My perception is my reality! You as the speaker must take responsibility for what you allowed me to perceive!
But unless you explain the basis of your perception, I cannot understand why they are out of alignment with mine! Of course I perceive my own statements exactly the way I meant, since i formulated the statement based on my perception! If your perception is different, there is no way for me to know unless you tell me!
 

Adam M!

Smash Lord
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Kevin, now I feel you're just being pedantic. You disappoint me.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! Thank you guys!
 

pockyD

Smash Legend
Joined
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Location
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Kevin, now you're just being pedantic. You disappoint me.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! Thank you guys!
The underlying question of our back-and-forth was something to the effect of "why are so pedantic?"! Of course I am being pedantic in such a discussion! Sorry to disappoint you though!
 

DJMirror

Smash Master
Joined
Dec 4, 2008
Messages
4,809
interestingly, on smashboards, there are no actions! only words!
There's actions on smashboards: You troll, ignore, put people in your ignore list, praise, **** ride, argue, reason, talk, report to mods or just don't go on to this thread.


Simple.
 

'Fro

Smash Lord
Joined
Sep 23, 2007
Messages
1,340
Kitsune taught me (and still does) the layers of depth there are to this game. I wish pharmacy wasn't so much ****, because then he wouldn't be trapped here the way he is.
 

NJzFinest

Smash Hero
Joined
Nov 12, 2004
Messages
8,861
Location
NYC
I played the Fox today. He's at LEAST as good as Lucky. Most of you won't believe it, but that's not an uncommon theme so oh wells. lol
His Fox got double Mew2 spiked by me and Iggy in a team friendly.

Lucky would never get double Mew2 Spiked.
 
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