I double jumped after my spring jump in training. Was it a glitch?

[Catt]

Yesterday I was practicing my Sonic against a Samus in training mode so I know I didn't get hurt (but being in training I couldn't save the replay) ;_;

I knocked her into the air with Usmash>
jumped once(important) doing a rising Uair and tipped the second hit,>
used spring jump(more important) to pursue freefalling Samus to the top of the screen(still on screen) and rising Uaired but missed, then>
used my unused double jump to jump to the left and Uair her off of the top.

Samus was set to "stand" and wasn't even close enough to me to hit me with an attack anyway. Was this just a glitch or could it be along the lines of Pit's wing refreshing?

Can this be replicated/ recreated? I've been trying but I've gotten nowhere.
Expiriment!!!

 

[Tenki]

she probably footstooled off of your spring jump/U-air, giving you back your double jump and B powers.

Footstools are the answers to like, almost all upB-related incidents lol.

 

[Napilopez]

Well Catt said the samus was nowhere near him, and do CPUs set to stand even Jump unless they are recovering?

I still agree with Tenki however, it was probably a footstool thing somehow that you didn't notice. We've had too many similar incidents with the double spring jump XD.

 

[Tenki]

Yesterday I was practicing my Sonic against a Samus in training mode so I know I didn't get hurt (but being in training I couldn't save the replay) ;_;

I knocked her into the air with Usmash>
jumped once(important) doing a rising Uair and tipped the second hit,>
used spring jump(more important) to pursue freefalling Samus to the top of the screen(still on screen) and rising Uaired but missed, then>
used my unused double jump to jump to the left and Uair her off of the top.

Samus was set to "stand" and wasn't even close enough to me to hit me with an attack anyway. Was this just a glitch or could it be along the lines of Pit's wing refreshing?

bolds.

[1] No damage
[2] You went to U-air and missed. I bet she was a bit too high, hm?
[3] Strange motion normally disabled from up-B state possible?

Footstool.

 

[InterimOfZeal]

I'm telling you, it's not footstool related, guys. There's something odd about it. I wonder if Sonic has like.. a jump install or something.

 

[Umby]

Shut up Izzy.

 

[da K.I.D.]

however, that would be a cool name for it, jump install.

 

[ShadowLink84]

The CPU does NOT perform a double jump when its set to standing unless it is recovering off stage,

Jump install is alsoa term used into GG I think. Can't remember off the top of my head.

 

[R4ZE]

but he didnt say he double springed... he said he did his double jump after an up-b, maybe it is possible to make sonic not lose his double jump after an up-b?

 

[InterimOfZeal]

Jump installing is something in GG. What happens is that you start to jump cancel a move, then you cancel the jump with an attack. For the rest of the combo, you have one extra jump. This allows you to do things like super jump, then air dash, or jump again. Pretty tight.

For the actual inputs, think of like... Peach dsmashing outta shield in Melee. Cancel your shield with a jump, cancel the jump with a double-jump that brings you to the ground, dsmash. Pretty neat, non?

EDIT: I think this may be related to why he loses all his jumps/upb when you land at the peak of your upb.

 

[Catt]

I'll clear up some confusion on a few things.

Here I will clarify.
I used my unused second jump after an Uair, not a second spring cause that would send me unnecessarily high up.
And I wasn't close enough to Samus to be footstooled. We were in the middle of FD as shown.

_______________________________________
|----------------Sa----------------------|
|-----------------------So---------------|
|-----------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------|
|------------_________________-----------|
|------------\______FD______/-----------|

I don't think I was footstooled because my jump looked like it was right out of the Uair and Samus was in the falling state the entire time.

 

[Tenki]

Here I will clarify.
I used my unused second jump after an Uair, not a second spring cause that would send me unnecessarily high up.
And I wasn't close enough to Samus to be footstooled. We were in the middle of FD as shown.

______________________________
| Sa |
| So |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| _________________ |
\______FD______/


I don't think I was footstooled because my jump looked like it was right out of the Uair and Samus was in the falling state the entire time.

she could have footstooled you right before the U-air reached. It's happened once before, where a Pit footstooled Sonic as he did U-air, and we just barely caught the 1 frame that it was a footstool, before he got hit by the U-air. Then the Sonic did a double spring after him and killed him.

I'm getting the feeling that Samus might have done that to you. Except instead of doing a second up-B, you double jumped.

If anyone wants to deconfirm my idea, I have a simple test for you to do:
player 1 (Sonic) and player 2 (Fox) - both human controlled.
- player 2 is spamming jump button on a platform above Sonic (say, top of battlefield)
- player 1 stands under player 2 and uses spring (force footstool off of Sonic's spring state by player 2)
- player 1 will try to double jump. If it works, then you were footstooled. If not, then I'm wrong, and you have answered a question I had (can you double jump out of spring if someone footstools you?)

..lol.

 

[InterimOfZeal]

Normally you don't get a third jump after being footstooled. Just sayin'. D:

 

[Catt]

I don't know what to think

Well... I'm officially confused on this subject. Soooo.,, I'll come back to it if it ever happens again.

Oh yeah, make sure to look at my diagram since it was editted from the one Tenki quoted. my spaces collapsed on me and made the whole footstool theory 100% viable, but the edit is the correct one. Maybe that might help?

 

[TwinkleToes]

Catt, are you sure you weren't on crack at the time? Perhaps you took some shrooms, maybe a little mescaline?

Did you perhaps eat or drink any food/beverages that you didn't prepare yourself? Maybe someone tried to slip you something.

Or maybe there really is a way to uber-fy Sonic's recovery. All options seem equally plausible to me at this point.

 

[kataridragon]

strange another jump hmm...

 

[Catt]

Uhh...

Catt, are you sure you weren't on crack at the time? Perhaps you took some shrooms, maybe a little mescaline?

Did you perhaps eat or drink any food/beverages that you didn't prepare yourself? Maybe someone tried to slip you something.

Or maybe there really is a way to uber-fy Sonic's recovery. All options seem equally plausible to me at this point.

Yeah, I'm sure I didn't do anything like that. I'm very strongly anti-drug/ anti-alcohol/ anti-substance abuse, I've never done anything, and I never ever want to do any thing like that... so, that's totally out of the question for a reason.

...anti-substance sounds funny.
Steak is the leading death causing anti-substance in the world. The reason behind the high death rate is that many people can't handle its awesome.