I can't get back into Smash.

[Maniclysane]

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It's been probably 5 months since my Wii broke. Maybe a little longer. Before that I had been playing all the time, keeping my skill up. I used to be decent with Jigglypuff and pretty good with Snake. After playing at friends house I realized I had trouble even doing a DACUS let alone keep track of the timers on my grenades. My DI was terrible.

A few months ago I went to a tournament in San Diego while I was visiting my relatives (Everyone at Chula Vista were really awesome :D) and before the tournament started the only character I could use well at all was Metaknight. My spacing was off too, and I relied realllly heavily on dsmash, almost the whole time. Almost all of my kills were shuttle loop kills. Even while using MK I was hesitant to leave the stage.

I've been playing Street Fighter 4, HD Remix and MvC2 since my Wii broke, but none of them are as entertaining to me as Smash. I love being able to live longer than a certain number, I love having stocks instead of entirely new rounds after each death, and I love how open ended the game is. Street Fighter feels linear, and its almost impossible to make up combos on the spot.

I don't even know where I'm getting at. I love the Smash community but it's hard to talk to people sometimes when I don't really know Smash like I used to.

/wrists

 

[Wiscus]

Do not be downhearted smasher!

Maybe you are not giving yourself enough time to get back into the swing of things, give yourself some time to de-rust, like you said it's been 5 mounths. That would put anyone out of it. To solve the other problem of not being able to discuss things I have one word for you
LURK

Lurking will solve your woes, Lurk in tactical see what everyone is johning/complaining about.Look in the social boards or general discussion of your character. Repeat the practices you used to do when you first picked up the game, It will probably come back to you faster.
Good luck friend

 

[WindMajor]

You're just rusty. Really rusty. Did you get any good practice in before the tournament? I haven't played Brawl since early July, and I know I'll probably be rusty, but Brawl isn't a difficult game to jump back into. It'll take a while to get your timing right and to get adjusted to the game in a competitive level, but it isn't impossible.

You just need to practice. Have a tournament coming up soon? Let that be your motivation.

 

[Kewkky]

Both of the posters before me are right. It'll take you a bit to get used to Brawl's physics again, and the timing and (small) tech-skill-needed moves like DACUS will also need their time... Just get the idea of outdoing yourself every time you grab a controller, and before you know it, you'll be feeling normal in no time! Probably even do some things you wouldnt've done before.

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

I'm going to be blunt. Brawl has very little tech skill so if you do get another Wii, it shouldn't take you very long to get back into the groove of things.

 

[Nysyarc]

Brawl has very little tech skill

I don't want to start an argument but this statement isn't entirely accurate... it may be easier to get the feel for than, for instance, Melee but I can't stand people saying things like "BrwAl tAkez nO skILl gUizE lolOloL!!!1!".

I realize your statement was meant simply to encourage and probably wasn't intended as a stab at Brawl, but don't give the wrong impression. Brawl isn't 'easy' to get good at. Like anything else it realistically takes time and practice. Think about it, if it had 'very little' technical skill involved, there would be a very small margin between a pro and a scrub. This is not the case. A pro Ganon could consistently three-stock a scrub MK.

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

I didn't say easy get good at. I said low amount of tech skill.

Those are two different things.

 

[ぱみゅ]

I know what you're talking about
I don't have an own wii
We made weeklies that I used to practice (strangely, I had a regular level on all of them), out of that, I rarely went with friends. When we coudn't make them anymore (local where we were playing closed), I couldn't play for about 3 months...
Then, we find another place to play and make our weeklies, but my reactions got screwed, my aggressive playstyle had bad timings (so badly punishable!) and my DI... better not to talk about that...
I'm still haven't fully regained my skills, but it's just because I can't practice. I'm sure that you just have to regain trust on yourself and practice right from the starts (and don't overpush yourself to quickly gain skills!)

 

[MidnightAsaph]

Play a lot. Like, don't stop playing... Like, your friends; play them a lot... That's it.

/thread

 

[Steven Jackson Action Jackson]

If you're friends are as good as you want to be, play them, but if they're at the level where you can abuse them for ****s and giggles, don't bother. It's better to play good people on wi-fi than brawl idiots offline. Just play a lot. When you take a long break from brawl, you usually get better when you get the hang of it again, so don't worry about losing your skill, it's still stored in your muscle memory.

 

[illinialex24]

There are some good people in the smash community but stay away from the jigglypuff boards.

 

[Lythium]

I've been having the same problem, though it's not because I don't have a Wii. Blazblue is like crack: so addictive.

I went to tournament and got OWNED. By everyone. I only won one round. It was pathetic.

 

[Maniclysane]

Do not be downhearted smasher!

Maybe you are not giving yourself enough time to get back into the swing of things, give yourself some time to de-rust, like you said it's been 5 mounths. That would put anyone out of it. To solve the other problem of not being able to discuss things I have one word for you
LURK

Lurking will solve your woes, Lurk in tactical see what everyone is johning/complaining about.Look in the social boards or general discussion of your character. Repeat the practices you used to do when you first picked up the game, It will probably come back to you faster.
Good luck friend

I think this will help me get back into the swing of thinking like I should in Brawl. I've been going about everything the wrong way. D: I just need to practice to actually start putting my train of thought into the game. Lurking will help though, thanks for the advice :D

Both of the posters before me are right. It'll take you a bit to get used to Brawl's physics again, and the timing and (small) tech-skill-needed moves like DACUS will also need their time... Just get the idea of outdoing yourself every time you grab a controller, and before you know it, you'll be feeling normal in no time! Probably even do some things you wouldnt've done before.

Brawl does have funky physics, especially compared to traditional fighting games. I really just need to stop thinking of them the same way.

I don't want to start an argument but this statement isn't entirely accurate... it may be easier to get the feel for than, for instance, Melee but I can't stand people saying things like "BrwAl tAkez nO skILl gUizE lolOloL!!!1!".

I realize your statement was meant simply to encourage and probably wasn't intended as a stab at Brawl, but don't give the wrong impression. Brawl isn't 'easy' to get good at. Like anything else it realistically takes time and practice. Think about it, if it had 'very little' technical skill involved, there would be a very small margin between a pro and a scrub. This is not the case. A pro Ganon could consistently three-stock a scrub MK.

I guess. I know Brawl doesn't require much "Tech" skill but tech skill isn't the deciding factor. People think that tech skill = difficulty for a game. In a game with no combos, all the sudden spacing becomes the most important thing, and baiting, and things like that. At least for the characters I play. Jigglypuff is a ***** to learn again, and I think it's best if I drop her for good. Now that i'm starting again I've dropped my bad habits (for the most part) and I can start fresh.

If you're friends are as good as you want to be, play them, but if they're at the level where you can abuse them for ****s and giggles, don't bother. It's better to play good people on wi-fi than brawl idiots offline. Just play a lot. When you take a long break from brawl, you usually get better when you get the hang of it again, so don't worry about losing your skill, it's still stored in your muscle memory.

This is basically my problem. My friend has a Wii, but I just waste him all the time even at my skill level. He just *****es about how bad a game Brawl is (While he's using Captain Falcon) and just want's to play Rock Band. Or I can play CPU's, which is not how I want to start out playing again.

There are some good people in the smash community but stay away from the jigglypuff boards.

I love you Alex. <3

I've been having the same problem, though it's not because I don't have a Wii. Blazblue is like crack: so addictive.

I went to tournament and got OWNED. By everyone. I only won one round. It was pathetic.

I've never actually played Blazblue. Is it on the xbawkz? I've just been playing SSF2HDremix all the time, and Marvel vs. Capcom 2, SF4 to a lesser extent. What's the gameplay like?

 

[Circa]

This is basically my problem. My friend has a Wii, but I just waste him all the time even at my skill level. He just *****es about how bad a game Brawl is (While he's using Captain Falcon) and just want's to play Rock Band. Or I can play CPU's, which is not how I want to start out playing again.

You basically have the same problem I have, and from the sound of it you haven't exactly found a solution to it apart from 'go to tournaments'. If you ever find a solution, however, then please tell me. D:

Although I do know that just going into training mode and messing around with ATs will help your game out a lot. It's a rather easy way to get used to the physics again, and can even help a bit in other aspects as well.

 

[Maniclysane]

You basically have the same problem I have, and from the sound of it you haven't exactly found a solution to it apart from 'go to tournaments'. If you ever find a solution, however, then please tell me. D:

Although I do know that just going into training mode and messing around with ATs will help your game out a lot. It's a rather easy way to get used to the physics again, and can even help a bit in other aspects as well.

I'm trying to find a less costly solution to going to tournaments. That tournament I went to in Chula Vista helped a lot, but wifi is much more of a blessing because of all the exposure you get to different playstyles and characters.

 

[SpeedAcE]

If you're friends are as good as you want to be, play them, but if they're at the level where you can abuse them for ****s and giggles, don't bother. It's better to play good people on wi-fi than brawl idiots offline. Just play a lot. When you take a long break from brawl, you usually get better when you get the hang of it again, so don't worry about losing your skill, it's still stored in your muscle memory.

Yup, I agree with this. Playing against people that dance like puppets doesn't help you, in fact you're better off not playing whatsoever because you'll develop bad habits that will make it easier for experienced players to punish you and whatnot. Online does help you learn matchups but I don't see at as that helpful when you play it exclusively, a mixture of offline and online play is probably ideal if you have no one experienced around you to play against consistently. Taking breaks is great, grinding is not.