JayBee
Smash Champion
I wanted to bring into attention something that disturbed me. I need to get this off my mind, and this is the only way I can think of doing this.
Before we begin, plz watch the following matches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlHC_rov7YAn around the 1:47 mark.
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9VSMStWr-g around the :28 mark.
In both cases, Sonic begins a Hyphen Smash, aka a running Up Smash. During the attack for some reason, He is interruped before the hieght of this move, and in the case of the first one is in falling state, while in the second one, he can actually Nair out of it, it seems.
Now, both of these vids have been seen already, and the responce most people have seen it said, was that the move was shielded, and therefore, knocked sonic out of the edge. On the first video, due to the proximity of the Characters during the incident, it would seem to be the case.
But in closer studying of the second vid, if viewed frame by frame, Not only is Shielk a considerable distance away when the attack frames of the Hypehen smash activated, if you look carefully, Sonic begins his move as usuall, then all of the sudden, BAM! sonic seeminigly skips out of the path of the Upsmash and is disconnected from the blue effect that triggers from the move. That was when I got pissed.
Because I was positive that it was blocked, you see. but when I looked at it closely, and tried to pause to catch frames, the blue effect continues the path it was intended to, but Sonic at this point, seemingly detached from it, was positioned elsewhere. What did this tell me? that the game considered Sonic to be Up Smash mode, but somehow, the sonic players inadvertantly did something that took advantage of a property of Upsmash to "cancel it into a jump, or freefall, or something of that nature.
if I remember correctly, Sonic has invincibility frames at a small point during the move's rising animation. my theory is, that if there is ANYTHING legit about this, then the reasons behind it are somewhere during the rising animation, before the ball animation.
I guess I really want this to be something, but knowing that this could somehow me being high on steak or something (!) I just made a new thread. But before we dismiss this, we need to:
have someoene take both portions pretaining to the incident and show it, frame by frame as it happenes. the second was easier for me to notice, as you clearly see two blue animations in two places at a point in the attack, one being Sonic, and the other the blue streak that trails Sonic during the UpSmash.
I'm probably gonna try something on it today, try to see if I can pick at it, though I do doubt it. I am optemistic, to a fault, as you will sometimes see in my threads, so sue me. if I'm wrong, oh well life and steak goes on. but assuming that someone find out its real, then I will be even more pissed that I didn't attempt to try it.
Discuss if you will, but I really want more evidance, and slowed-down clips.
Before we begin, plz watch the following matches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlHC_rov7YAn around the 1:47 mark.
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9VSMStWr-g around the :28 mark.
In both cases, Sonic begins a Hyphen Smash, aka a running Up Smash. During the attack for some reason, He is interruped before the hieght of this move, and in the case of the first one is in falling state, while in the second one, he can actually Nair out of it, it seems.
Now, both of these vids have been seen already, and the responce most people have seen it said, was that the move was shielded, and therefore, knocked sonic out of the edge. On the first video, due to the proximity of the Characters during the incident, it would seem to be the case.
But in closer studying of the second vid, if viewed frame by frame, Not only is Shielk a considerable distance away when the attack frames of the Hypehen smash activated, if you look carefully, Sonic begins his move as usuall, then all of the sudden, BAM! sonic seeminigly skips out of the path of the Upsmash and is disconnected from the blue effect that triggers from the move. That was when I got pissed.
Because I was positive that it was blocked, you see. but when I looked at it closely, and tried to pause to catch frames, the blue effect continues the path it was intended to, but Sonic at this point, seemingly detached from it, was positioned elsewhere. What did this tell me? that the game considered Sonic to be Up Smash mode, but somehow, the sonic players inadvertantly did something that took advantage of a property of Upsmash to "cancel it into a jump, or freefall, or something of that nature.
if I remember correctly, Sonic has invincibility frames at a small point during the move's rising animation. my theory is, that if there is ANYTHING legit about this, then the reasons behind it are somewhere during the rising animation, before the ball animation.
I guess I really want this to be something, but knowing that this could somehow me being high on steak or something (!) I just made a new thread. But before we dismiss this, we need to:
have someoene take both portions pretaining to the incident and show it, frame by frame as it happenes. the second was easier for me to notice, as you clearly see two blue animations in two places at a point in the attack, one being Sonic, and the other the blue streak that trails Sonic during the UpSmash.
I'm probably gonna try something on it today, try to see if I can pick at it, though I do doubt it. I am optemistic, to a fault, as you will sometimes see in my threads, so sue me. if I'm wrong, oh well life and steak goes on. but assuming that someone find out its real, then I will be even more pissed that I didn't attempt to try it.
Discuss if you will, but I really want more evidance, and slowed-down clips.
