YvngFlameHoe
Smash Ace
It's these Falcon tendencies, I can't control my nairs
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Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread
- Thread starter Linguini
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RedmanSSBM
Improving My Process
God damn I love how "floaty" Ganon is so that he can auto-cancel like half of his aerials. ****'s lit.
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
Teaming with Eddie on Saturday.
Ganon guru and grandfather of the dorf.
Old Chicago ganon with new Chicago ganon.
In there.
Ganon guru and grandfather of the dorf.
Old Chicago ganon with new Chicago ganon.
In there.
So overall I performed decently at beast according to my results, but it doesn't really show how I played. I was 4th seed in my pool, 3rd was a marth, 2nd a falco and 1st a samus. The marth i barely lost game one on bf, so I took him to dreamland where i JV4'd him. He then took me to yoshis where I was struggling getting out of his up tilt juggles. Last stock at 140% I finally get him to his last, and get a solid combo on him (dair, dthrow, 2 upairs I think) which left him without his dj offstage. As he side b's toward the ledge i drop ledge with an upair (eikeldrop?) which hits, but I managed to fail the timing of my jump so I SD'd. The falco bodied me pretty much, he was spamming lasers and pillar combos. I need to learn how to get out of these combos.
Heres where it gets really interesting, against the samus I managed to get him to 100% last stock both games. He was trying to zone me with missiles, but I just shielded them and slowly made it over to his side of bf. Samus is really slow in the air, so you can kinda juggle her with upairs until shes offstage. That samus then got 17th in singles. Sadly it wasn't recorded.
Why I did so well versus the samus compared to falco, is that I'm much better in a slow paced neutral than getting out of combos, as samus really doesn't have that impressive punish game. Are there any tricks you guys know that might help me? I was thinking wiggle out to waveland would be much better than simply teching in some situations.
Heres where it gets really interesting, against the samus I managed to get him to 100% last stock both games. He was trying to zone me with missiles, but I just shielded them and slowly made it over to his side of bf. Samus is really slow in the air, so you can kinda juggle her with upairs until shes offstage. That samus then got 17th in singles. Sadly it wasn't recorded.
Why I did so well versus the samus compared to falco, is that I'm much better in a slow paced neutral than getting out of combos, as samus really doesn't have that impressive punish game. Are there any tricks you guys know that might help me? I was thinking wiggle out to waveland would be much better than simply teching in some situations.
ForTheLulz
Smash Apprentice
For falco, learn to powershield. It's easy once you lab it and it disrupts the rhythm of the falco. Often, if you find you can't, you can take laser damage as long as you're keeping control of the stage and can react to what the falco's doing.
DI is easy for low-mid to mid level falcos. Hold away on dair and shine.
Many beginner-intermediate falco mains don't actually know how to combo. No, seriously. I'm almost sick of how these guys don't actually know how to properly combo DI away on their shines. Higher level falcos, however, will wavedash out of their shine and get actual followups. Then, you pray to the melee god that they mess up and you don't die.
Honestly, it looks like you almost won vs the samus because they didn't adapt and you didn't win against the falco because you didn't adapt.
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
CC jab/uair lasers and approaches is the easier alternative to powershields. You can't just rely on powershields, although you should still go for them.
Diosama
Stand User
Duel
Smash Apprentice
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Nice win at Xanadu yesterday
Divinokage
, overcame some rough sheik MU's and adapted.
Divinokage
, overcame some rough sheik MU's and adapted.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Kage was at xanadu??? Dayumn.
Duel
Smash Apprentice
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Yeah, unfortunately the best player there was Plank, but after losing in Winners Finals Kage beat him in grands. Too bad we couldn't watch him bop Nintendude and Chu.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Md/va drivers cant even drive in rain. Its actually really funny to see which is why they didnt show up. The weather was literally Ganon weather, dark clouds and huge downpours. I summoned up the rain to block people from coming lol.
But im happy with my play overall.. its so hard playing perfect. I did what westballz and hugs couldnt do and lets be real im not scared of ICs. The sheiks were actually hoping i beat them so they can beat me.
Edit: its also hard to say whos better between Hat and Plank.. theyre both really solid. I lost to Hat 3-0 at raider bowl but got him on the runback 2-0. Anyways.. **** sheikkkkk yaaa!!!
But im happy with my play overall.. its so hard playing perfect. I did what westballz and hugs couldnt do and lets be real im not scared of ICs. The sheiks were actually hoping i beat them so they can beat me.
Edit: its also hard to say whos better between Hat and Plank.. theyre both really solid. I lost to Hat 3-0 at raider bowl but got him on the runback 2-0. Anyways.. **** sheikkkkk yaaa!!!
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-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Only Midwest/New England drivers can compete with Canada LOL. If it snowed in SFL (only time ever recorded was 1977) people would seriously die.
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-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Vgbc started uploading a minute ago. Lol I still can't believe md/va couldn't drive out there. Well... I know why the climbers didn't. Lol
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
Can confirm. My driving skills are top notch after growing up and learning to drive in Boston.
Coastward
Smash Lord
xanadu vods?
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
In Chicago, we have a word for people who can't drive in the snow:
Pu$$ies
Pu$$ies
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-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
I just went to watch Kage vs plank on my twitch app. Just as kage sat down at the setup, 7 consecutive 30-second ads started until I just quit out. COME ON YOUTUBE
Lol, even after phone restart, same thing.
I'm about to raise unholy Ganarchy in this *****
Lol, even after phone restart, same thing.
I'm about to raise unholy Ganarchy in this *****
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spider_sense
Smash Champion
lol, should have went out for a square.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
The ads were like Samus missiles. Not stopping any time soon.
spider_sense
Smash Champion
Isn't there some sort of ad blocker for smartphones out there?
YvngFlameHoe
Smash Ace
Yea, it's called adblocker
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
I probably just need to quit being a cheapskate and subscribe and they'll stop lol.
Divinokage
good **** at the PA tourney
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spider_sense
Smash Champion
Welp ask a dumbass question and get a dumbass answer. lmfao
-ACE-
screw that man. Just get an app that removes ads from twitch. Btw, was gonna ask if you wanted to buy the 1.01 version of melee along with the cube. We can split the cost or whatever.
spider_sense
Smash Champion
Back when I had legit chaingrabs. :/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K10O1mh3gg
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Lol the cg is easy, you just have to practice some.
Melee discs are $60 minimum, we'll see. I just got a cube in perfect condition, all cords, a like-new silver controller, 6 games, 2 memory cards, and official nintendo carrying cases for the cube and games for that price.
Melee discs are $60 minimum, we'll see. I just got a cube in perfect condition, all cords, a like-new silver controller, 6 games, 2 memory cards, and official nintendo carrying cases for the cube and games for that price.
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PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
PSA: if you're tired of ads on the twitch app, just click the "visit this page" button or whatever the **** it is when they're playing the ad. Exit out immediately and go back to your broadcast. Wastes about 5 seconds total and the streamer still gets his ad revenue.
EZ$$
EZ$$
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Side-b on shield to side-b actually worked lol
Nice movement there, but it really bothered me that you never took the ledge while he was recovering lol
Swagic
Smash Journeyman
Swagic
Smash Journeyman
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
RedmanSSBM
Improving My Process
Here's a silly "Enjoyment Tier List" I made late last night for the hell of it:
I've been playing Falcon pretty much exclusively for the past 3 and a half months so I feel ya on that one. I still enjoy playing Ganon a lot though, so maybe in due time I'll go back to maining him. Still figuring things out though.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
I **** with Marth, falcon, doc, luigi, and Mario when I'm not playing Ganon. I'm always having fun if I'm playing against a spacey.
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
After Ganon I'm into spacies, puff, Marth, Sheik and Zelda. Faded falco is too fun.
I think I'm the only Ganon main that can't play falcon. I'd probably enjoy him if I could though.
I think I'm the only Ganon main that can't play falcon. I'd probably enjoy him if I could though.
You aren't alone Wanted lol. Ganon and Shiek are the only high tiers that I can play.
I literally cannot do anything with Falco except perfect SHL, I can't do anything with marth, I die with fox, my hands literally don't work until the tier list gets to Doc/Mario and my intelligence doesn't kick in until I get to Ganon.... wait he's at the top of the list.
I literally cannot do anything with Falco except perfect SHL, I can't do anything with marth, I die with fox, my hands literally don't work until the tier list gets to Doc/Mario and my intelligence doesn't kick in until I get to Ganon.... wait he's at the top of the list.