Coastward
Smash Lord
also shoutouts to ace for that insta like lol.
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Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread
- Thread starter Linguini
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-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
is there a vid online of bizzarro/druggedfox yet?
Lost to a falco twice today. Went to last game in losers finals though, I'll post a vid later since I think I was playing pretty well, want to hear your guy's opinions on what I could have done better.
Lost to a falco twice today. Went to last game in losers finals though, I'll post a vid later since I think I was playing pretty well, want to hear your guy's opinions on what I could have done better.
PaperstSoapCo
Smash Lord
He could have hit so many ledge drop uair or even ledge drop bairs on sheik. she recovered so close to him.
![Эикельманн [РУС]](/data/avatars/l/153/153661.jpg?1415225120){kind=avatar}
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
Got 5th at avalon. Beat remen 3-0 but then lost to Amsah 1-3 and to some falcon. My run in europe is going well.
Yo nice!
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Rocky is some falcon? Haha good **** Ian.
spider_sense
Smash Champion
My bird of 19 years just passed away. I'm one sad Ganon. 
He would sit on my shoulder and watch me tech practice. I'll hold a small funeral service for anyone who wants to pay any final respects.
He would sit on my shoulder and watch me tech practice. I'll hold a small funeral service for anyone who wants to pay any final respects.
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aw manMy bird of 19 years just passed away. I'm one sad Ganon.
losing a pet sucks.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Damn. Luckily he/she lived a long life. Call you later about what we doinMy bird of 19 years just passed away. I'm one sad Ganon.
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Coastward
Smash Lord
damn sorry to hear thatMy bird of 19 years just passed away. I'm one sad Ganon.
RedmanSSBM
Improving My Process
Sorry to hear about that Jason.
On an unrelated note, what is everyone's plan who is going to Big House 5 for housing? If there's gonna be a "Ganon Room" where I can crash, then I definitely want in.
On an unrelated note, what is everyone's plan who is going to Big House 5 for housing? If there's gonna be a "Ganon Room" where I can crash, then I definitely want in.
spider_sense
Smash Champion
Thanks for the kind words homies. This is why Ganon mains are so godlike. Btw, I need to make a smash GG account so I can register, but I'm pretty much confirmed for BH.
Coastward
Smash Lord
do it soon, reg spots are probably gonna disappear fast as ****.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Thought you guys might like this. Lol
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Wow Plup can have his bad days, woulda done better with Samus LOL. Good **** for almost taking a game bizz. Ian (ocasionally) is his only practice since he switched mains.
RedmanSSBM
Improving My Process
You know, @Bizzarro Flame sure does make the Sheik matchup look tolerable. Until he gets sent off stage that is. God stage control is so important in that matchup.
Coastward
Smash Lord
@Bizzarro Flame stop fairing so much zzzzz
you played the exact same way you against druggedfox; dropped edgeguards and WAY TOO MANY fairs. instances where you did fair, you could've easily started a chaingrab up if you chose to grab instead.
you had some good baits though, just gotta mix it up a bit more. definitely coulda beaten him.
you played the exact same way you against druggedfox; dropped edgeguards and WAY TOO MANY fairs. instances where you did fair, you could've easily started a chaingrab up if you chose to grab instead.
you had some good baits though, just gotta mix it up a bit more. definitely coulda beaten him.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
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RedmanSSBM
that set blew @$$ and is no good representation of the metagame. So many mistakes from both. But let that serve as motivation. Everyone is beatable.
RedmanSSBM
that set blew @$$ and is no good representation of the metagame. So many mistakes from both. But let that serve as motivation. Everyone is beatable.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Another thing I've been messing with lately is edge cancelled aerial (on plat) to ff wL, or ff NIL grab. I think edge cancels are still underused.
Someone with 20XX:
I'm very curious on the frame window for this: if you bair a shielding opponent as late as possible, auto cancel after fastfalling, and 1-frame pivot grab, how close is it to being legit?
Someone with 20XX:
I'm very curious on the frame window for this: if you bair a shielding opponent as late as possible, auto cancel after fastfalling, and 1-frame pivot grab, how close is it to being legit?
On a related note, platform drop ff bair turnaround jab - It's probably not actually a thing(counter the shield grab) , but I think it's really close.
Edit - I mention the platform drop because I'm not sure if you get an auto cancel in that situation (battlefield lower platform specifically)
Edit - I mention the platform drop because I'm not sure if you get an auto cancel in that situation (battlefield lower platform specifically)
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Divinokage
Smash Legend
They are, i was experimenting with those in PM yesterday and you can get some really interesting setups. But I could not explain how those mixups work.. lol. It just requires some fine understanding on your moves and stun time basically.
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YvngFlameHoe
Smash Ace
YvngFlameHoe
Smash Ace
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
LOL my cover is blown. I've been withholding the secret to Ganon winning nationals for years.Amount of times I been to Vs: 2
Amount you been there when I was there : 0
@-ACE- wants me to be badd forever-_-
For now PM me if you have questions about anything. I know you're itching to learn the ditto.
YvngFlameHoe
Smash Ace
Idc about the ditto, I wanna play good ganon's so I can get better with Ganon, and hopefully be on PR
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Well the ditto kind of matters when there are 4 Ganons here that have the matchup down. SFL is unique in that regard.
Try actually messaging me on here when you go up there, you know I'll see it lol. There wasn't a tournament yesterday and the main reason I go up there is to get matches recorded.
YvngFlameHoe
Smash Ace
God dayum, 4? That's right. Who do I start on?
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
I'd say just play vs me and Jason we're the most active. Just gotta have a fest sometime.
PaperstSoapCo
Smash Lord
hey ace we smashing today? I couldnt make it last night was grillin with my girl. London broil>>>>Vs.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
As soon as my girl goes to work I'm down. 5pm at the latest. You gonna be by your phone today or should I message you on here? @
spider_sense
@ L Linguini
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He does amazing considering that he almost never grabs and misses a bunch of edgeguards lol.
Tested it just for you. I got 12 frames from the end of shield stun and the grabbox coming out, assuming they shield the initial hitbox and don't even get pushed out of grab range. It's actually closer (10 frames) if your hit box comes out on the frame before you land and you l-cancel it. Ganon's mediocre fastfall and 5 frame landing hurt him in these situations. I might have been off by 1 frame on either test but it should give you the info you need
Still a good mixup with jab (would be 8 frames and 6 frames, respecitvely)
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
RedmanSSBM
Improving My Process
Oh by the way guys, in case you missed it, I got a nice 0-death on a Marth in a crew battle: http://www.twitch.tv/kneedeepgaming/v/14581919?t=3m5s
Sorry that it's laggy as all hell, but you should be able to tell what's going on.
Sorry that it's laggy as all hell, but you should be able to tell what's going on.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
But you have PLENTY of information to work with, you need not to rely on one person to become good. lol
YvngFlameHoe
Smash Ace
I need a person to apply this information on, in real time tho
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
One thing I think most (there are exceptions of course) people need to become good is consistent access to players that are better than them outside of tournament and exposure to all the important matchups so you can practice what you study in real time. You could also just rely on playing better players and matchups in tournament only, but you'll learn faster if you sit down with the right players for hours.
Playing with worse players can still and should make you better. But you have to be really careful not to develop bad habits. You also have to think to yourself constantly, "would this have worked on a better player?"
Having a good Ganon main to play against will get you better at the Ganon ditto certainly. But who the **** cares about being good at that matchup? And what are they going to tell you (about other matchups/fundamentals) that you can't already learn here or from watching videos?
Playing with worse players can still and should make you better. But you have to be really careful not to develop bad habits. You also have to think to yourself constantly, "would this have worked on a better player?"
Having a good Ganon main to play against will get you better at the Ganon ditto certainly. But who the **** cares about being good at that matchup? And what are they going to tell you (about other matchups/fundamentals) that you can't already learn here or from watching videos?