how to edgeguard a peach

[By-Tor]

Weruop plays as peach now and it's so hard to edgeguard. When I get a grab I can easily changrab right to the ledge but when I knock him off the edge he ALWAYS gets back because peach's recovery is so unpredictable and hard to combo. Advice?

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Try to place yourself where you can cover the most options with the most mobility. If possible, combo into a dair spike.

 

[By-Tor]

Try to place yourself where you can cover the most options with the most mobility. If possible, combo into a dair spike.

I've been trying to figure out how to end it with a spike but peach is floaty and difficult to combo, I'll figure it out soon enough

 

[Europhoria]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvPoVA9EhMw
See first stock. Combo not required, without her float she has a lot of problems; her up+b is pretty obvious. If you can help it avoid like up-air juggles or tipping b-air to send her super far. Try to get like a weak back air to combo into something, or just push them back out.

If you tip b-airs or whatever they'll end up really high and just up+b way way out of your range and make it back. Get d-tilts to edgehog or whatever when you can. The weak b-airs will hopefully keep them going low to get hit by a d-tilt or d-air.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

all your tilts suck for peach
don't fsmash unless you're sure it will land, if you whiff it than she's back on the stage
get her on the ledge, she's pretty much helpless there, but her roll from ledge animation has deceiving amounts of invincibility frames.

 

[Deleted member]

if he up B's to the edge, dtilt and hit her hand and then get on the edge and roll when she floats back. if she goes above the edge, keep doing fair until she goes for the edge or dies. repeat 3 more stock.

 

[TresChikon]

Can Peach sweetspot the edge?

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Sweetspotted recoveries are so randomly defined. You can look at the edge grab boxes, if you like.

 

[TresChikon]

Is she vulnerable to Marth's d-tilt and/or f-smash if she spaces her up+b well? Or does marth's hitbox make it impossible for her?

 

[Deleted member]

marth can always hit you.

at least there's always wall teching

 

[TresChikon]

Blegh..stupid post, ignore me...

Thanks for the info, however.

 

[Ndot]

all your tilts suck for peach

Actually, all of Marth's tilts are pretty awesome against Peach in general. For edgeguarding, dtilt is really good and ftilt is decent. But for onstage game, all tilts are really good against Peach.

 

[TresChikon]

I find his f-tilt as an acceptable finisher when I'm positive f-smash won't land.

 

[Ndot]

Especially tipper f-tilt when they aren't expecting the extra range that comes out of it and they were expecting a fsmash. lol :D

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Actually, all of Marth's tilts are pretty awesome against Peach in general. For edgeguarding, dtilt is really good and ftilt is decent. But for onstage game, all tilts are really good against Peach.

He said they suck FOR Peach, not AGAINST Peach.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

very carefully.

 

[Ndot]

He said they suck FOR Peach, not AGAINST Peach.

lol whoops, you read things wrong 4am in the morning =/ lol

 

[By-Tor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvPoVA9EhMw
See first stock. Combo not required, without her float she has a lot of problems; her up+b is pretty obvious. If you can help it avoid like up-air juggles or tipping b-air to send her super far. Try to get like a weak back air to combo into something, or just push them back out.

If you tip b-airs or whatever they'll end up really high and just up+b way way out of your range and make it back. Get d-tilts to edgehog or whatever when you can. The weak b-airs will hopefully keep them going low to get hit by a d-tilt or d-air.

wow that really helped thanks

 

[AceDudeyeah]

My Peach killer when they decide to float pretty high above the stage is dash jump off the stage, turn around with your back-air so that you're back is facing peach, then use your double-jump and the back of your dair to spike.

 

[Loto]

My Peach killer when they decide to float pretty high above the stage is dash jump off the stage, turn around with your back-air so that you're back is facing peach, then use your double-jump and the back of your dair to spike.

lolwut. How can you do this if there "pretty high above the stage"

 

[Dart]

My Peach killer when they decide to float pretty high above the stage is dash jump off the stage, turn around with your back-air so that you're back is facing peach, then use your double-jump and the back of your dair to spike.

they would have to be above 100 percent if its as high as im guessing you mean because the peach will get out of the hitstun if she has her double jump or if shes close enough to the stage.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

its actually a really good edge guard on peach. dair ends in time for you to grab edge without upb, so you can edgehog whatever she does to come from below.

the only thing is, its hard to hit. you'll get it on a peach once before they know their spacing and just wait for you to jump out their and follow your wiff as a safe way back onto the stage.

against peach i like to mix it up between going off the stage and hitting her w/ fair/bair/dair and forcing her to come to me and hitting her away with utilt/ftilt/fsmash. Really the key is to get rid of both her float and 2nd jump, once she is in umbrella her options drop a TON and you can choke her recovery out pretty well.

 

[Rubyiris]

down + b.

Bair if this is impossible.

 

[By-Tor]

ok I've read all your posts, thanks a lot for all the help everyone. When he's below me, I've ran off the stage and down b'd, to an up b, and it worked out pretty well, but I've never seen this used in high level play, maybe down b on the stage is a better option. I'll try out your suggestions next time I play him