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How do you handle newcomers?

Fregadero

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jun 6, 2011
Messages
389
I'm going to start giving advice to better players between matches without them asking
 

Morin0

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
1,907
Location
San Diego, CA
I'm going to start giving advice to better players between matches without them asking
LOL. I'm gonna play m2k and after I get pwned I'm gonna be like: "hey bro, I noticed you weren't doing so good. Maybe if you did X instead of Y, you'd do better, bro."

:phone:
 

Kal

Smash Champion
Joined
Dec 21, 2004
Messages
2,973
**** that, provide commentary during matches. "You probably shouldn't have ended that combo in uair. Bair would have been better."
 

odinNJ

Smash Lord
Joined
Mar 5, 2012
Messages
1,175
Location
NJ
Don't tell them what to do, just punish their bad habits and they'll learn in their own.
 

DerfMidWest

Fresh ******
Joined
Mar 31, 2011
Messages
4,063
Location
Cleveland, OH
Slippi.gg
SOFA#941
Shake their hand.

Play as you normally would.

Shake their hand again.

Offer advice, and invite them to play friendlies on an open friendlies setup.
this.
although, I'm usually the bad one, I often play people worse than me in bracket.
 

Wizzrobe

Smash Champion
Joined
Mar 27, 2011
Messages
2,280
Location
Florida
I haven't even been playing competitively for a year. So I'm a bit new, but when I find someone who is more new than I guess I usually play with them and give them tips that I know.
 
Joined
May 15, 2012
Messages
12
I'm not bad. I know so mug about every char and I have great techskill. When I lose to some sheik with Roy, they think I'm a scrub, so I go fox and shine combo whatever low tier they start using. My point: I will always want players better than me to play their best, and I will always do so to those under me
I dont follow your arguement. Please explain
 

Stylez

Smash Cadet
Joined
Mar 24, 2012
Messages
66
Location
Fresno, CA
As a new player, you're there to learn, but you want to be taken seriously.

I felt welcome at my first tournament because my opponents played their match like any other. If I were good enough to stomp on noobs, it would always be a "good game."

Advice should really be saved for friendlies, in the same way experienced players critique each other. I don't know if I would have advanced as quickly if my friendly matches and tourny matches weren't taken seriously.
 

Bing

Smash Master
Joined
Nov 8, 2010
Messages
4,885
Location
St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada
As a new player, you're there to learn, but you want to be taken seriously.

I felt welcome at my first tournament because my opponents played their match like any other. If I were good enough to stomp on noobs, it would always be a "good game."

Advice should really be saved for friendlies, in the same way experienced players critique each other. I don't know if I would have advanced as quickly if my friendly matches and tourny matches weren't taken seriously.
A lot of people dont take friendlies seriously, so yes, you can give tips during friendlies, like example, When I sit down with KK or Unknown and play and they consistently 3-4 stock me, Im playing seriously and trying to learn from my mistakes. If its two average players, odds arent these friendlies are exactly that, friendlies.

Now with that being said, tournaments matches are actually a great time to give advice, I mean if something happens that can be corrected, correct it right then and there.(Obviously wait until after the match/set). Everyone tries hard in friendlies, so whatever happens is actually them.
 

Grim Tuesday

Smash Legend
Joined
Nov 4, 2007
Messages
13,444
Location
Adelaide, South Australia, AUS
I say good luck to everyone I play before the game, and good game afterwards with a handshake.

During the match, I don't go easy but I play on auto-pilot because it isn't worth the thought. I usually go a secondary unless I am rusty with my mains. I also don't play to win, like... standing near the ledge and doing dash-dance > bthrow > shine. I just play like normal.

No advice during the game, only afterwards and I try to phrase it in such a way that promotes discussion instead of me just leaving straight away afterwards.
 

Stylez

Smash Cadet
Joined
Mar 24, 2012
Messages
66
Location
Fresno, CA
(Obviously wait until after the match/set). Everyone tries hard in friendlies, so whatever happens is actually them.
Ah, i'm talking in-game critiquing. Though their intentions are (probably) to help you improve, feeding you advice during the match focuses your attention on habits you can't weed out in four minutes. Instead, new players should be using this time to adjust to the pressure of a tournament setting - not to stop rolling, sweet-spot the ledge, etc.

But i'm really just stating the obvious. If you have advice they're willing to take, after the match/set is perfect.
 

Wolfy!

Indecisive
Joined
Aug 23, 2011
Messages
846
Location
Salt, CA
In tournament? I usually just play the match the way I would normally play the match. Except it's easy combo food so I can do cool stuff to sort of fuel the fire for my matches against better people. I usually befriend people and shake their hands and if they ask for advice, I give it to them.
 
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