How do I avoid getting shine spiked

[SK919]

I get shine spiked way to much.. help me out

 

[DtJ Jungle]

dont get hit off hte stage.

 

[TemPesT-]

don't get hit by the shine off the stage either

 

[Binx]

Recover with firefox above the stage

sweetspot with double jumps and forward B's

Kill fox 4 times before he can shine spike you.

 

[Mogwai]

don't recover, EVER

just die when you're off stage and then come back and death combo the Fox.

 

[Miggz]

You should record a match so we can see the scenarios . Al I can say is quit being predictable with your recoveries.

 

[MarkLoo]

don't recover, EVER

just die when you're off stage and then come back and death combo the Fox.

lol. seriously when you know you can't avoid the shinespike just do this. falco's recovery is really bad. the best advice is to sweetspot, and avoid being predictable.

 

[Mogwai]

right, well, I mean, being unpredictable and sweetspotting is like good advice and stuff but if you want to completely stop being shine spiked, you need to stop trying to recover because it's giving them opportunities to shine spike you, whereas if you always just don't even double jump, they'll have a much harder time trying to shine spike you. Whenever you recover vs. Fox, you run the risk of getting shine spiked, learn to live with it and just do what you can to limit the # of times it happens.

 

[Liex Link]

don't recover, EVER

just die when you're off stage and then come back and death combo the Fox.

Thats the best trick ever. I'ma going to start using that trick.

 

[Da Shuffla]

Avoid using the firebird whenever possible. With no charge up hitbox, you are basically just target practice for the Fox. There is a chance that you may get a Fox who can shinespike you out of the phantasm. In that case, just don't get knocked off.

 

[Big_R]

well di far away an phantasm or firebird.

prepare to get ss and recover low but di in and tech off the wall.

double jump air dodge onto the stage

mix it up

 

[jwkirby64]

dont try to recover too close to the stage

but the best is to not get hit off
b/c its so **** ez for fox to shine spike falco

its just not fair :C

 

[The Irish Mafia]

try using methods asides from Firebird to recover, like wallhop and over b
or just remain offensive

 

[ICEDTEA1325]

well if you have a jump and close to the stage i would wall jump to foward b i have spiked my friend doing that when he tries to spike me then for the rest of the match hes afriad to.lol

 

[Miggz]

You can also activate your shine when you get knocked of the stage in order to switch up the timing of your recovery. By messing around with the timings you can avoid getting shine spiked this way...

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

If Fox is for sure going to be above you, try to get in between him and the wall. Tech the shine spike, try to get back before he can respond. You have to keep in mind it is super easy to shine spike Falco. He has no hitbox during his firebird start up animation, so you are helpless out there. Also, learn the firebird sweet spots from above the edge, and how to shorten your phantasm.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Make sure to go all Scar on their *** if you're playing a good wall jumping stage such as Yoshi's, it can really aid predictability.

 

[Jizzaster]

be unpredictable with the recover. always sweet spot with illusion. and mix it up with the firebird.

 

[PK Webb]

If Fox is for sure going to be above you, try to get in between him and the wall. Tech the shine spike, try to get back before he can respond. You have to keep in mind it is super easy to shine spike Falco. He has no hitbox during his firebird start up animation, so you are helpless out there. Also, learn the firebird sweet spots from above the edge, and how to shorten your phantasm.

how do you do that idk at since im completely new 2 falco

 

[Da Shuffla]

Press B after the *ping* of the phantasm. When you hit it determines how short your phantasm is. Learn the timings for the different lengths.

 

[Miggz]

If Fox is for sure going to be above you, try to get in between him and the wall. Tech the shine spike, try to get back before he can respond. You have to keep in mind it is super easy to shine spike Falco. He has no hitbox during his firebird start up animation, so you are helpless out there. Also, learn the firebird sweet spots from above the edge, and how to shorten your phantasm.

I have to learn how to tech the shine spike actually.

That's a must.

Thanks for reminding me.