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How do Gimp appropriately (hehehe) with dair?
- Thread starter Rawrness
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R1ngo
Smash Journeyman
i like using dair on the stage the best and tech chasing ppl across the stage with it
Dojo
Smash Champion
Certain characters with weaker recovery's can be dair'd offedge continuously to the bottom. If your on a shortage of jumps a drill rush will get you the rest of the way up there. Even on final. I do it often to my friend's wolf. Although he's been working hard to avoid that situation lately. xD
Another is a simple space the stage spike. Works best on final naturally. If you space yourself really well then fast fall immediately you can hit an SL for the stage spike on most stages.
I also approach with it alot. Sh Dair, fast fall, jump dair, fast fall, etc. It can pressure them out of shield for a chase down.
Another is a simple space the stage spike. Works best on final naturally. If you space yourself really well then fast fall immediately you can hit an SL for the stage spike on most stages.
I also approach with it alot. Sh Dair, fast fall, jump dair, fast fall, etc. It can pressure them out of shield for a chase down.
ckm
Smash Journeyman
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the last technique he mentions is dope. I have been working on this, and if you get it right, its a sick *** combo that can be done on or off the stage.
Heroes_Never_Die
Smash Journeyman
When opponent is near the edge: Running Grab >> Pummel >> Grab Release >> Run off stage >> FFDair >> SL (edgesnap).
This is very risky and only works at low %. At higher %, the Dair will send them too far away to hit with SL. It also won't work if your opponent manages to jump break your grab. However, this can be a very unexpected move and if it works, it's sweet as hell. This is just theory though, I haven't tested it much 'cept on CPU (which isn't a good test really).
This is very risky and only works at low %. At higher %, the Dair will send them too far away to hit with SL. It also won't work if your opponent manages to jump break your grab. However, this can be a very unexpected move and if it works, it's sweet as hell. This is just theory though, I haven't tested it much 'cept on CPU (which isn't a good test really).
TheKneeOfJustice
Smash Lord
My approach is commonly either Full Hop Double Dair or walking powershield, either of which can be followed into d-tilt, which leads into forced tripping gayness.
Killress
Smash Ace
Tech Chase.
Protathlitis
Smash Cadet
Fast-falling continuous D airs are awesome. There are few things in SSBB that are as great as walking someone off of the stage to his/her demise. Try it on Ike and Ivysaur (these are the ones I've done it to but I'm sure there are others); you'll have a good time.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Dair use in general? Some people spam it more than the tornado, and I've been wondering what makes it particularly good compared to other moves.
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
wing'em into a wall.
its funny
its funny
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
I believe the back hits harder than the front, so try that out when you are gimping.
Deoxys
Smash Lord
It takes 4 frames to come out, and when tipper'd, does 9%, and has the knockback you'd expect from a 9% attack. Also, it has really good range towards the spot behind and below MK. Also, when you hit it right this way, you can stage spike them. I seem to recall seeing a blue impact when they hit the stage sometimes when it's tippered, meaning they couldn't have teched it.
Same damage and knockback, but harder to tipper and with less range.
Yup.
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
Ah, I remember reading about the sweetspot. I guess I assumed it was the back =\
Deoxys
Smash Lord
I guess I should have made it clearer in the thread where the sweetsports are. For every move except for down tilt, it's at around the tip.
cutter
Smash Champion
The sweetspot on Dair is on the opening and closing frames of the attack.
Basically I like to line up somewhat horizontally to my opponent and nail them with the opening sweetspot. It's great approach with on the ground, but I don't use it as liberally there. I prefer to save it so its knockback is fresh for maximum gimping potential.
Best Dair in the game.
Basically I like to line up somewhat horizontally to my opponent and nail them with the opening sweetspot. It's great approach with on the ground, but I don't use it as liberally there. I prefer to save it so its knockback is fresh for maximum gimping potential.
Best Dair in the game.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Lucario begs to differ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eONhto0x_nI
magikguy
Smash Lord
that link lies 
Deoxys
Smash Lord
Yeah, you should Rickroll or not do it at all...
Plus MK's Dair has more synergy with MK's moveset (5 air jumps) than Lucario's does with his.
Plus MK's Dair has more synergy with MK's moveset (5 air jumps) than Lucario's does with his.
Joxer
Smash Apprentice
Poor link. And since when does lucarios dair gimp? Heck, it even comes out at exactly the same speed with much less range
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Joxer
Smash Apprentice
First, it has been proven that moves like lucarios diar do not stop high speed vertical or horizontal momentum. Second, lucario's dair is not more powerful, and even if it is, it sends upponents up instead of sideways or down, which means it can only be used as a kill move at extremely high %s
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Dair is a kill move, a horizontal recovery tactic, and a gimping tool. I am pretty sure it's more powerful than MK's Dair, unless you're talking about Lucario at 0% damage.
MetaKnight63
Smash Apprentice
Catches people off guard, and good combo starter.
Joxer
Smash Apprentice
And has much much more range. And stage spikes as well. And MK can abuse it by floating above his opponent with his many jumps and spamming it downward.