How Broken Pit will be (Please delete this)

[worldjem7]

Please close/delete this thread.

Pit: Just look at what he can do.

- Has Sword: that spins and attacks Fast
- Can Jump multiple times (more than 2 normal)
- Has Directional Range (look: Palutena Arrow - B move)
-Glide Ability (Confirmed)
- Up-B lets him fly ANYWHERE (like peaches hold jump only you can go everywhere)
- (Final Smash Yet to be seen will update when news arrives)

And to top it off: The Footstool Jump will just add to his brokenness


Meta Knight

- Has REALLY REALLY fast sword (Hold A and wtf pwn them)
---> also in the air his sword flies at Mach 7
- ALSO has multiple jumps
- Glide Ability (Confirmed)
- Side B Recovery Up B recovery
- (Final Smash... update later)


So... Who will vote Pit and Meta Knight for Top Tier?

And who else would you say for Bottom Tier?

 

[the grim lizard]

Threads like this are dumb.

 

[OnyxVulpine]

Maybe a high.er tier but not the highest. I'm sure they would balance them out quite a bit. Probably some really weak moves and really light.

 

[worldjem7]

Threads like this are dumb.

Hey, this is the Character Discussion Section of the Brawl Section, so you're going to have threads about characters. You want info on more pressing matters then don't go to the Character Discussions. Besides, I searched for a Pit thread and I never saw one so I made one.

Edit: P.S. Wow OnyxVulpine, I've seen you post before, nice to see you here on my thread

 

[Blackadder]

I have summat to actually contribute Mcloud!! XD

I must admit, I had fears Metaknight would possibly be a little unfair with his
Uber fast A attack. But think about it.
It's prolly really weak, and easy to get out of.
Also, Sakurai has BALANCE in mind. Trust the man.

 

[bluebomber22]

you have no evidence that they are broken becuase we havent played the game. I expect them both to be very weak charaters who can rack up damage but have a hard time finishing the job. I dont think either one will be top tier....at least not in my book

 

[worldjem7]

the way you described it sounds a lot like Sheik which I'm sure neither Pit nor Meta Knight will turn out to be, especially with their bodies, movesets, and overall physics. But, I'm glad to see such quick input on a newly opened thread. Thank you for your time.

 

[Fawriel]

Eh.
There's no telling how "broken" the other characters will be. For all you know, Pikachu could have his crazy priority and hitboxes or whatever it was back from SSB64, Ness could have Marth's grab range and Yoshi could suddenly have no more weaknesses since his recovery works better.
And for all we know, Pit and Metaknight could be as vulnerable as Mewtwo. Which doesn't seem extremely unlikely.

I vote upper mid-tier for Metaknight and high tier for Pit, though, since he seems kinda like a faster and more efficient version of Link.

 

[OnyxVulpine]

Hey, this is the Character Discussion Section of the Brawl Section, so you're going to have threads about characters. You want info on more pressing matters then don't go to the Character Discussions. Besides, I searched for a Pit thread and I never saw one so I made one.

Edit: P.S. Wow OnyxVulpine, I've seen you post before, nice to see you here on my thread

Haha, does that make me famous some how?

I've only been here for less than a month. But I guess I am every where *Looks at my post count*

We haven't seen a lot of Metaknight's moves and the continuous A attacks aren't the easiest to pull off is it? I haven't seen much in all the videos I watch.

Pit's arrows look like they can do some good since they can be controlled, but that leaves him for an open attack if he misses does it not?

Something always has to have a weakness.

 

[Kazuya]

But, what about Pit's mega lightness?

Oh wait, we don't know how light he is.

Fact is, it's too early to make judgements and "whine'.

Pit may be fast, however this can be balanced with weak attacks.
He may have good range and be able to comeback easily - but is probably light as a feather.

So much for broken...

 

[Chickenboy666]

I think that both Pit and Meta will be very fragile and easy to get out of stage (specially Meta) and that may balance them.

 

[Speedsk8er]

you have no evidence that they are broken becuase we havent played the game. I expect them both to be very weak charaters who can rack up damage but have a hard time finishing the job

Kinda like Sheik eh?

"Oh dang Sheiks is comboing the hell outta me, good thing she doesn't have any good ko moves.. *slap* oh shi-..."

 

[timbu]

yes, sheik does have possibly the fastest finisher in the game.

I can imagine Pit though: fast, flashy, technical pros will play him and I will spend days watching his tournament videos. Fly everywhere with arrows and weak but fast attacks...sounds like young link to me. TOO FUN AH!

 

[TheSpindoctor]

First of all,

you have absolutely no idea what characters will be good, bad, or cheap because you have never played any of them. I hate people who make these huge assumptions about characters just off of what they have seen in a trailor. People say that Mario is cheap because of his Final
Smash, but that is all they have seen of him.

Bottem line, no one knows that much about any of the characters right now, so now is not the time to make assumptions about who you are gonna play or who you are not gonna play because the game hasnt even come out yet.

 

[Wrath`]

the game hasn't even come out and we are already trying to find it's faults? This is maddnes man,just play the dmn game when it comes out and have fun. Who cares about "brokeness"?

 

[WaddleDee]

Pit only has the standard two jumps, then the B-Up [The Fly Thing, lol]. He's normally an angel who cannot fly, after all. This doesn't exactly sound broken to me.... BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

I seriously do not understand why a large percentage of everyone assumes Pit has more than one double-jump, along the lines of Kirby, Jigglypuff, or Metaknight. It's illogical. <3

That is the only prediction I currently dare to make. [And I just felt like correcting the first post. :V]


I cannot make assessments along the facts on how MetaKnight and Pit will truly play, simply because of the fact that I have not played the game. I'd rather wait until the game comes out to judge it instead of condemning the game by the updates, pictures, and trailers that have currently been released.

I FEEL UPTIGHT AT THE MOMENT. HEAR ME ROAR.

 

[LukeFonFabre]

Pit only has the standard two jumps, then the B-Up [The Fly Thing, lol]. He's normally an angel who cannot fly, after all. This doesn't exactly sound broken to me.... BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

I seriously do not understand why a large percentage of everyone assumes Pit has more than one double-jump, along the lines of Kirby, Jigglypuff, or Metaknight. It's illogical. <3

That is the only prediction I currently dare to make. [And I just felt like correcting the first post. :V]

People aren't making assumptions, they simply saw the first trailer and noticed that Pit has more than the standard 2 jumps, like Kirby and Jigglypuff. We don't know if he has as many as them, but we know he definitely has more than one double jump.

Edit: After looking at the 2nd trailer, there are also two occasions where he uses 2 mid air jumps, so he definitely has more than the standard 2 jumps.

 

[worldjem7]

lol you're all so serious about information. just have fun discussing possibilities. If you don't like this thread then you'll like it later once the game IS released lol because then you'll have actual input to say here.

 

[Crooked Crow]

Pit looks like he only has 2 jumps and his up may let him move "wherever you want to" but as it says on the site, the time for it is very limited.

As for Metaknight's rapid sword spam, maybe they'll be phantom hits? Maybe very little damage like 1 or 2% per hit? Maybe you can just DI out of it like any rapid A combo.

It is too early to make assumptions. I don't think these two characters are the only ones that stand out. The creators of Brawl should be giving everyone something unique.

 

[freeman123]

How do you know Pit has more than 2 jumps? maybe he only uses his wings for his up B.

 

[RBinator]

I'm sure we gonna figure out how broken a character is gonna be from previews, the same way we figured out the power of Peach's down smash, right?

 

[ClarkJables]

i think pit only has 2 jumps and then his ^ b would be the fly move

 

[_the_sandman_]

If a character has excellent recovery, usually they have terrible defense. Kirby, Jigglypuff, and Mr. Game and Watch have proved this theory. What makes you think they would be able to take a beating?

If Metaknight and Pit can recover from any part on the screen I'm sure they can be easily sent flying.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

I think Pit= next Peach

Meta Knight= next Jiggs

I'm not saying they won't be in, but tier wise, I can see this.

 

[dantemasta]

I think both Meta Knight and Pit will be broken, and something about Snake just yells bottom tier. Another person who is getting a tier upgrade is Yoshi, not only can he still do his little lifting kick, but now his ^ B sends him even higher, and he gets footstool jump? This guy is gonna be a pain in the *** to try and kill.

 

[Paranoid_Android]

Pit only has the standard two jumps, then the B-Up [The Fly Thing, lol]. He's normally an angel who cannot fly, after all. This doesn't exactly sound broken to me.... BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

I seriously do not understand why a large percentage of everyone assumes Pit has more than one double-jump, along the lines of Kirby, Jigglypuff, or Metaknight. It's illogical. <3

That is the only prediction I currently dare to make. [And I just felt like correcting the first post. :V]


I cannot make assessments along the facts on how MetaKnight and Pit will truly play, simply because of the fact that I have not played the game. I'd rather wait until the game comes out to judge it instead of condemning the game by the updates, pictures, and trailers that have currently been released.

I FEEL UPTIGHT AT THE MOMENT. HEAR ME ROAR.

I'm convinced he has more than two standard jumps since in one of the videos (or both) released a while ago, it showed Pit in airborne combat with another character, and he was doing an aerial after each jump. It could still be an up-B that grants him these extra jumps, but even so, it wouldn't function much like any other ^B, and would actually make him more overpowered, since it would be renewed upon taking damage.

 

[ClarkJables]

that was only in the first trailer which was almost all cutscenes. plus that was very early in development

 

[SmashChu]

Looking at the 2nd trailer, it seems Meta-Knight can bring the pain, but can't nap a K.O.

Also, were not sure Pit hgas multiple jumps. His Up B may grant him that ability foir a set amount of time. This won't make him top teir becuase your jumps don't reset.

 

[dantemasta]

Look at the videos, for everyone saying Metaknight's fast sword attacks will be easy to get out of because it's his rapid A. He uses it in the air, and he does it when it is hit once. Metaknight has crazy fast attacks, so he can rack up some damage hella fast. Pit can too, from the looks of it his sword moves a little bit slower than Marth's when he does an attack with one. So, considering he has two he's gonna be a fast attacker too. I doubt he'll have good defense though, or any really good knock out moves.

 

[the grim lizard]

Sakurai is programming a "no tiers" feature into the game that you cannot turn off.

 

[dantemasta]

They'd have to beef Kirby back up to how he was in the first game then. And they'd have a lot of work to do with Mewtwo.

 

[the grim lizard]

Actually, no. People are thinking very backwards around here. You'd have to improve Bowser/M2/Kirby very little. They don't need to be at Fox/Sheik/Marth/Peach's level. Bring those people down to about Ganondorf or Link's level. Get everyone as close to mid-tier (or what this was equivalently) as possible, and there you go.

 

[dantemasta]

But that's no fun. How am I supposed to completely dominate a Bowser with Sheik if that happens?

 

[Pitbull]

I wouldn't really worry about broken characters in brawl because with the Wiis online capabilities brawl will surely have online updates. This means that if a character is too strong or too weak, then nintendo will just fix them with an online update.

 

[ClarkJables]

i hope they add new characters and stages with each update

 

[Pitbull]

Who knows... maybe they will.

 

[I Like Smash...]

they should...
its a good way to keep the game feeling fresh...
even after its been out for a long time...
though i dont think Brawl will need updates to be timeless...

 

[Jackal478]

Pit and Meta wont be broken.

NO character is broken, people just beleive that one fighter is worse because you dont fight good with them.

and you cant make assesments over a character you havent played as.

 

[Pitbull]

If nintendo is at all smart (and i'm sure they are) they will add new characters, stages, items and assist trophies into the game through online updates. So brawl would just get better and better!

 

[Jackal478]

That would be a worderful idea, awesome at least, but..

it sounds a bit too much like a miracle to happen