• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Houston Thread - No HOBOs and no WHOBOs. What do we do now??????????????????????????????????????????

What side event should i include in my tournaments?


  • Total voters
    398
Status
Not open for further replies.

Trela

Smash Lord
Joined
Jul 22, 2008
Messages
1,748
Location
Cypress, TX
I will join in on this monster hunting adventure, as well....

But Amber calls for me right now, at this very moment.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
Trela, you have to buy a Wii U then. Target has the $50 gift card when you buy one plus the buy 2 get 1 free sale on games...if you can find it now...

Once the stupidly delayed save transfer tool is released "by Friday," then I can join in the fun.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
3DD version can go online THROUGH a Wii U. Otherwise, local co-op only...
 

Xyro77

Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2003
Messages
17,885
Location
Houston,Tx
If the game is so slow, why are you dying so much? In a group of four no less.
In order to do ANYTHING other than fighting, you need to put your weapon away. I cant heal/gather/stop burning/sharpen without putting down my weapon. Once i do that, all of those things have start up animation and ending animation. Just makes the game slow.

Is there a weapon that comes out fast, puts up fast and attacks fast? The bow and lance SUCK
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
You...you didn't read the weapons summary posted did you? Not surprised...
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
The very first weapon fits what you want.

But...okay then.
 

Xyro77

Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2003
Messages
17,885
Location
Houston,Tx
The very first weapon fits what you want.

But...okay then.
I wanted a bow
I used the bow
it was MEGA slow/accuracy sucked

thus it is not what i want/described.





i want something that comes out, puts up and hits fast (or w/e this **** game calls fast).

oh and Ive noticed another link between something. The people who really enjoy this game are Tallman/gea/rt/p4/flip.....ect. most if not all are COMPUTER nerds.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
The first weapon of Gea's weapon summary, which you supposedly read, describes a weapon that is fast in all the aspects you described.

And you supposedly read the list...

So...need you embarrass yourself more?

P4 and Flip don't play PC games...so try again.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
Master sensei admiral P4, teach me your MH ways.

I must learn...everything...
 

Xyro77

Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2003
Messages
17,885
Location
Houston,Tx
The first weapon of Gea's weapon summary, which you supposedly read, describes a weapon that is fast in all the aspects you described.

And you supposedly read the list...

So...need you embarrass yourself more?

P4 and Flip don't play PC games...so try again.

I did read it. doesn't mean i remember it. i also NEVER get embarrassed on swf. its a video game site with nerds talking about video games and hooking up to play video games. this kinda of talk is expected of such a sight.

p4/flip play roms and sit on the comp to play FB or other nerd ****.

thus they are computer nerds.





dummy rt get schooled literally every day since he joined smash. it never gets old.
 

Gea

Smash Master
Joined
Jun 16, 2005
Messages
4,236
Location
Houston, Texas
In order to do ANYTHING other than fighting, you need to put your weapon away. I cant heal/gather/stop burning/sharpen without putting down my weapon. Once i do that, all of those things have start up animation and ending animation. Just makes the game slow.

Is there a weapon that comes out fast, puts up fast and attacks fast? The bow and lance SUCK
The weapon you probably want is the sword and shield. You can even use potions without putting it away. I already explained this, though. Bow is extremely fast in terms of how many attacks you can keep shooting and your mobility, and is extremely accurate (as is the lance). So accurate you actually have to aim! Lance isn't that mobile but it's stupidly good at both offense and defense. When you stand, you can immediately shield attacks, and counter oncoming attacks as well. Also if you read the instruction manual, you'd figure out that you can instant-block when you take out your weapon (R + X + A). Lance is seriously one of the best DPS weapons in the game. It puts most other to shame and is great at elemental and status ontop of it. But I can understand if you think it feels clunky. All the extra animations are to prevent bad players from spamming items. After you know what to do and get your farm going, you rarely have to gather anything, and ontop of that, there are armor sets and tricks to gathering faster. Crouch between gathering and you won't stand up every time. I really don't get why you are giving this game a hard time when PSO is just as slow and you love that.

It depends on what you want/need in terms of if you should upgrade/forge. I would give you a rundown of this but A) You wouldn't read it and then ask a million times anyways and B) You need to have a plan in mind for me to recommend anything, like what weapon you're gonna be using. (pssst David isn't a computer nerd)
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
What Allan reads it as: blah blah blah blah lance is best blah blah blagh blah bleh bloopity bloop poop Falchion Blade blergh BERP blah blab blah blah PSO is better than MH blah blah David is a computer nerd bleh blah.

And then forgets it five minutes later.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
So..they are your fanboys?
 

Xyro77

Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2003
Messages
17,885
Location
Houston,Tx
The weapon you probably want is the sword and shield. You can even use potions without putting it away. I already explained this, though.
You never told me i could be Link. But now that you have, that seems sweet. My character has green hair and green underwear so if i could become link who is green then that would be cool.




Bow is extremely fast in terms of how many attacks you can keep shooting and your mobility,
i noticed how u can run and aim at the same. the problem i had is that you can only take a few steps and then it fires automatically. And ive notice that the aming system is NOT accurate. The archs and target zones do not match-up.


and is extremely accurate (as is the lance). So accurate you actually have to aim!
wait what? all i know is, you point the pointy end at a charizard and press A to hit high(when he flies of has his mouth open, right? cause i think i broke his beak one time) or X to hit low (some times my attacks bounce off of him).

Lance isn't that mobile but it's stupidly good at both offense and defense. When you stand, you can immediately shield attacks, and counter oncoming attacks as well. Also if you read the instruction manual, you'd figure out that you can instant-block when you take out your weapon (R + X + A).
I knew you could guard and slowly walk towards charizard but i didnt know you can COUNTER so how do u do that?

So to instant block i press r+x+a at the same time?

Lance is seriously one of the best DPS weapons in the game. It puts most other to shame and is great at elemental and status ontop of it. But I can understand if you think it feels clunky. All the extra animations are to prevent bad players from spamming items. After you know what to do and get your farm going, you rarely have to gather anything, and ontop of that, there are armor sets and tricks to gathering faster.
What is a DPS? department of public safety?

And yeah i dont know what to do with the farm. i gave it blue muchrooms but nothing happened.


Crouch between gathering and you won't stand up every time. I really don't get why you are giving this game a hard time when PSO is just as slow and you love that.
PSO you can level up and level up your pet.
PSO you can get swords like the Yamato that hit 5-6 times.
PSO you can get SUPER fast and SUPER slow weapons.
PSO you can lock on to stuff.

PSO>MU

It depends on what you want/need in terms of if you should upgrade/forge. I would give you a rundown of this but A) You wouldn't read it and then ask a million times anyways and B) You need to have a plan in mind for me to recommend anything, like what weapon you're gonna be using.
ok yeah i dont have a plan on what i want for a weapon. at first i wanted what i like in a game (range) but the bow sucks. I then wanted to be like Kain from FF4 but lances sucks. Ill try to be Link like you recommend.

(pssst David isn't a computer nerd)
hes on a cpu all day.
he plays super nerd computer games like team trash 2.
doesnt he have some sort of degree or cert in cpu nerdism.

rt = computer nerd
 

Player-4

See you in 25 years
Joined
May 16, 2009
Messages
5,582
Location
Campgrounds, TX
I did read it. doesn't mean i remember it. i also NEVER get embarrassed on swf. its a video game site with nerds talking about video games and hooking up to play video games. this kinda of talk is expected of such a sight.

p4/flip play roms and sit on the comp to play FB or other nerd ****.

thus they are computer nerds.





dummy rt get schooled literally every day since he joined smash. it never gets old.
First of all I never get on FB unless my mom whines as me and asks why I didn't like her goat video she left me a week ago, go check last time I posted a status update or a comment. Second, the last rom I played about a month ago was Golden Sun that I got a 3rd of the way through and now play on my Wii. Idk how using a computer makes me a nerd lol.

i aint bad. i have 86 pieces of raw meat. that means i have literally mastered the game. which consists of killing and carving.
Yeah. You're terribad. Use a Sword and Shield and while shielding you can shuffle through your items and use them. But let me ask you this, why the **** would it make sense for you to carve or gather or use an item while you're holding a weapon with TWO HANDS?! Are you asking your character to take of his Air Jaggi's and gather with his toes while he sticks his lance 3ft into the ground? Stop. Being. Bad.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
Uuuuuuuuuuuuh, P4's name is David...
 

Xyro77

Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2003
Messages
17,885
Location
Houston,Tx
First of all I never get on FB unless my mom whines as me and asks why I didn't like her goat video she left me a week ago, go check last time I posted a status update or a comment. Second, the last rom I played about a month ago was Golden Sun that I got a 3rd of the way through and now play on my Wii. Idk how using a computer makes me a nerd lol.
you can get on fb and not make a post. come on now, cpu nerd, i see you there on aim/swf/fb/myspace and other porn sites all the time. you live in the bathroom (drugs) and on the computer (porn). you are a computer nerd.


Yeah. You're terribad. Use a Sword and Shield and while shielding you can shuffle through your items and use them.
do i still have to go through those slow ass drinking animations? if so, i still have to run a mile away and drink that **** so i wont get hit.

But let me ask you this, why the **** would it make sense for you to carve or gather or use an item while you're holding a weapon with TWO HANDS?! Are you asking your character to take of his Air Jaggi's and gather with his toes while he sticks his lance 3ft into the ground? Stop. Being. Bad.
I dont know what u mean by any of this.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
No, its's Dave.

Gea was referring to P4. But since you're being bad, continue on your hot streak, yes?
 

Player-4

See you in 25 years
Joined
May 16, 2009
Messages
5,582
Location
Campgrounds, TX
you can get on fb and not make a post. come on now, cpu nerd, i see you there on aim/swf/fb/myspace and other porn sites all the time. you live in the bathroom (drugs) and on the computer (porn). you are a computer nerd.




do i still have to go through those slow *** drinking animations? if so, i still have to run a mile away and drink that **** so i wont get hit.



I dont know what u mean by any of this.
Idk what correlation drugs and computers have but ok.

Yes you still have to go through the same animation unless you get armor skills that let you eat/drink faster (but those are a waste). You don't have to run far away to use items, just wait for the monster to commit to a laggy move and use an item, or wait until it's preoccupied with ChaCha or whatever teammates you have.

That's because you're bad, it's okay, you'll come around eventually.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
I legally changed my name to Dave when P4 invaded the smash scene.

Stop being bad.
 

RT

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,673
Location
...
NNID
Rockettrainer
3DS FC
4038-6677-8162
Didn't you livestream KH2 and Pokemon?

MEGA NERD ALERT.
 

Gea

Smash Master
Joined
Jun 16, 2005
Messages
4,236
Location
Houston, Texas
You never told me i could be Link. But now that you have, that seems sweet. My character has green hair and green underwear so if i could become link who is green then that would be cool.
Sword and shield also requires you to upkeep lots of weapon types because they depend on status/elemental. They have weak raw damage. Good for group play, imo.

i noticed how u can run and aim at the same. the problem i had is that you can only take a few steps and then it fires automatically. And ive notice that the aming system is NOT accurate. The archs and target zones do not match-up.
I understand and sympathize that the game does a crappy job explaining how to effectively use weapondry (i.e. what moves do the most damage, what to use, etc). There IS a moveset list in the manual though and like I said before, you don't understand how bows work. Yes, they in general have subpar damage, but let me explain how they work: See that yellow bar? That's your stamina meter. Charging shots for your bow drains stamina. When you run out of stamina, you will fire automatically. Different bows have different charge attacks. In general the more you charge it (most bows have 3 levels, some have 2, some have 4) the more damage your shot will do. So to use the bow effectively you have to constantly be charging shots and paying attention to your stamina. Ontop of that the optimal distance for most coats (power, status, etc) is about two rolls away from the monster. This multiplies the damage. If you hit at the top of your arc (which is accurate, by the way) it also does more damage. Pierce is slightly farther away, close range coatings effect and buff your melee attack. Power coatings are the best coating, but not all bows have it. They increase your damage by 50%. That is amazing. You also need to aim at the appropriate part of the monster (usually, but not always, the face).

So to do the most damage you want to fully charge your shots, be two rolls away, use power coatings and aim so the top of the arc hits the monster. For large monsters you want to use pierce shots if your bow has them (would be specific level of charge) to aim down the body of the monster. For status/exhaust shots it is more effective to use your arrow rain attack (charge with X, aim, hit A to volley) since it hits more times. Aim exhaust for the head and you can even KO monsters with the bow. Using the proper element is also a must, which means using lots of bow sets. Volleys and arrows can hit and trip your teammates, so you have to be careful. This is a lot to do and keep up with at once, especially when coatings cost money and bows overall are slightly underpar. This, along with the fact they use gunner armor, makes them an advanced weapon for advanced players. That's what I tried to tell you before.

wait what? all i know is, you point the pointy end at a charizard and press A to hit high(when he flies of has his mouth open, right? cause i think i broke his beak one time) or X to hit low (some times my attacks bounce off of him).

I knew you could guard and slowly walk towards charizard but i didnt know you can COUNTER so how do u do that?

So to instant block i press r+x+a at the same time?

What is a DPS? department of public safety?
Okay, lemme walk you through what you can do with the lance and how to do it. First let me explain that the instant guard is going from when you don't have the weapon out into guard mode. Any weapon with a shield can do this, and yes it's R+X+A. If you already have the weapon out and get say, knocked down, you can just hold R and you'll shield as soon as you get up. Lances moveset include the stab where you get out your weapon, a frontal stab(X), an upwards stab (A), a sweep (X+A), shield (R), shield rush (while holding R and a direction, hit X), a guard poke (horrible, but hold R and no direct, hit X), a shield bash (hits X again during a shield rush, this does impact damage and can KO monsters), a charge attack (X+R+A with a weapon out), and you the charge by hitting A to attack or B to just stop. To counter, hold R and hit A. If you hold it down you will stand in place and try to counter for about a second, if you tap it you will counter for like not even half a second and do an upwards stab.

As far as damage goes, dash attack finishing bow > counter stab > upwards stab > regular stab/draw attack > shield bash > shield poke > sweep attack > dash attack

The idea is to either stab upwards twice, counter, then keep upstabbing, or stab upwards three times, sidestep, upstab. You can counter anything, including roars, gusts of wind, etc. Some attacks require armor skills to counter. You can shield advance through things like fireballs safely. You can shield bash into regular pokes into upwards pokes. You should only use the dash attack to inflict status on fallen monsters. It isn't to move around or for normal hits. When playing with other people who are spread out, lance has to put their weapon away a lot to move around. If you are playing with good people who stay close to the monster or are soloing, you should rarely have to put away your weapon and can stay up close the entire time. Stamina is really important for a lancer.

And yeah i dont know what to do with the farm. i gave it blue muchrooms but nothing happened.
Go talk to the head cat and check the haul, send your mushrooms to your item box and continue the process. Do blue mushrooms, honey, and thunder/flash bugs to start.

rt = computer nerd
RT = Dave, Jog = David

By the way, I know this is from Tri but they are basically the same. Here are some amazing Arena times showcasing some good lancing and good sword and shield use.
Lance
SnS
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom