Social House of the Belmont Clan: Simon and Richter Belmont Social Thread.

[Xzsmmc]

Heads up, we got Simon's title.

 

[Graizen]

Guys , look.
Simon and Richter can destroy projectiles with the Whip.

https://twitter.com/theSirToasty/status/1061686290356297729

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

Guys , look.
Simon and Richter can destroy projectiles with the Whip.

https://twitter.com/theSirToasty/status/1061686290356297729

That's honestly a pretty neat callback to the original games. Hope it doesn't end up being broken though.

 

[JohnKnight416]

Can't wait to get my hands on Richter when the game comes out. Really love his theme song, 'Divine Bloodlines'

Guys , look.
Simon and Richter can destroy projectiles with the Whip.

https://twitter.com/theSirToasty/status/1061686290356297729

Can he destroy projectiles with any of his whip attacks or is it only work with his Ftilt?

That's honestly a pretty neat callback to the original games. Hope it doesn't end up being broken though.

I honestly don't think that feature will be absolutely broken since his f-tilts are pretty linear and it doesn't seem like it'll protect him from any projectiles that are coming from about him. Idk if he's able to destroy projectiles with any of his other whip attacks however.

 

[Next Door Dog]

Can he destroy projectiles with any of his whip attacks or is it only work with his Ftilt?

We know for sure that forward tilt, the whip chain attack (from holding A) and dash attack destroy projectiles. I would assume smash attacks and aerials (aside from dair, and nair from a practicality standpoint) would as well, and possibly up tilt, too. I wouldn't say it's broken, since a lot of sword characters had this property already, and relying on such moves to combat projectiles will eventually be baited and punished by a good player.

There's also some projectiles (at least in past games) like Samus' charge shot and Falco's lasers that are either difficult to destroy or simply ignore the opponent's attacks. I'm trying to remember the term for those kind of projectiles, I think they're something called transcendent hitboxes? I'm thinking there's a difference between Dark Samus' charge shot and Samus', and (unless they nerfed Samus even more) the whip should not beat the latter's charge shot.

 

[Bobert]

We know for sure that forward tilt, the whip chain attack (from holding A) and dash attack destroy projectiles. I would assume smash attacks and aerials (aside from dair, and nair from a practicality standpoint) would as well, and possibly up tilt, too. I wouldn't say it's broken, since a lot of sword characters had this property already, and relying on such moves to combat projectiles will eventually be baited and punished by a good player.

There's also some projectiles (at least in past games) like Samus' charge shot and Falco's lasers that are either difficult to destroy or simply ignore the opponent's attacks. I'm trying to remember the term for those kind of projectiles, I think they're something called transcendent hitboxes? I'm thinking there's a difference between Dark Samus' charge shot and Samus', and (unless they nerfed Samus even more) the whip should not beat the latter's charge shot.

The charge shot wasn't fully charged which is why Richter destroyed it so easily. Ryu's Tatsu can destroy a charge shot as well if charge shot is staled or isn't fully charged. The charge shot would have pierced through the Vampire Killer's disjointed hitbox if it was fully charged.

 

[JohnKnight416]

You can change the trajectory angle of Belmont's Holy Water.

Notice at around 0:09-0:13 that Cyve was able to throw the Holy Water significantly further on the second toss.

 

[ToxoT]

got a much better look at the costumes for everyone here. so, it seems like richter's 6th is based on his outfit in symphony, and his 8th is based on leon. pretty cool, shame that his hair color doesnt change at all though.

 

[Megamanxtreme Unlimited]

I'll be maining simon and richter both in ultimate.
Their movesets look mighty promising and they pay homage to how they play in the castlevania series. I can't believe that both belmonts are playable in ultimate. I practically fanboyed when I saw their trailer from the 8/8/18 direct. Deffinitely looking forward to legit literally 'WHIPING" ass with the vampire killer with the belmont duo. The hype couldn't be more real.

 

[Ryu_Ken]

I'll be switching between Richter and Simon occasionally to feel them out, but I think I'll be more at home with Simon. I know Richter's the "cooler" looking Belmont, but when I think of Castlevania, I think of Simon and his beefy, medieval look, which I feel makes him more distinct than Richter.
Simon literally screams Castlevania with his outfit.
Richter, on the other hand, screams... Street Fighter? Fire Emblem? Anime?
(No, I haven't played Rondo of Blood or Symphony of the Night, so I'm basically echoing most people's reactions to Richter's reveal. I HAVE played Castlevania NES, Castlevania II, and Super Castlevania IV, so I'll probably be using whichever costumes are based off those games as my alts).

 

[JohnKnight416]

Check out this sick Richter combo bois!

 

[S-bow64]

Hi everyone, if it's confirmed that Simon and Richter are a 1:1 representation of their games does that mean Dash attack is fully invincible ?

'Cause if my Whip Tackle is not invincible I would be very disapointed indeed! Oh and Uppercut too.


On a little more serious note, that video really show the potential of the Belmonts and I like what I see. I didn't have an answer for it yet but is there a way to choose the range at which the Cross is toss ? It didn't seem to go that far on that video but I've seen it travelling way greater distance than that.

 

[Noventiaa]

Hi everyone, if it's confirmed that Simon and Richter are a 1:1 representation of their games does that mean Dash attack is fully invincible ?

'Cause if my Whip Tackle is not invincible I would be very disapointed indeed! Oh and Uppercut too.


On a little more serious note, that video really show the potential of the Belmonts and I like what I see. I didn't have an answer for it yet but is there a way to choose the range at which the Cross is toss ? It didn't seem to go that far on that video but I've seen it travelling way greater distance than that.

Yeah, if you input the side-b like it's a smash attack it goes further, which is the smash variant.

https://twitter.com/SSJMoosh/status/1067256785696956418

Similar combo but going off the top

 

[JohnKnight416]

Yeah, if you input the side-b like it's a smash attack it goes further, which is the smash variant.

https://twitter.com/SSJMoosh/status/1067256785696956418

Similar combo but going off the top

You can crawl with Simon and Richter?

 

[~The Koopa King~]

 

[JohnKnight416]

Belmont's Holy Water will damage Belmont himself if the opponent shields the Holy Water flask right before the flames burst out
Example of this is shown at around 0:40 of this video:

 

[Ffamran]

You can crawl with Simon and Richter?

You are able to crouch walk in some of the Castlevania games: http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Move_in_a_Crouch.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Simon's crawl is identical to his Super Castlevania 4 crouch walk. If only he could moonwalk up stairs in Ultimate.

 

[SvartWolf]

Ive noted on the Wolf vs richter video that Wolf reflected the holy water and richter grabbed it like an item...

Holy water seems to be an item.

 

[JohnKnight416]

You can catch the Holy Water flask if it is reflected or possibly blocked

Example of this is show at around 1:21 of this video:

 

[JohnKnight416]

I just created this thread that is solely going to be on Simon/Richter's Metagame


Link to the thread is right here:
https://smashboards.com/threads/legend-of-the-belmont-clan-simon-richter-metagame.464496/

 

[Mysteltainn]

It'll be Simon for me, for the same reasons as Ryu_Ken pointed out. The medieval look is everything to me, and really prefer it over Richter's look.

 

[Mc.Rad]

I'm sorry that I flaked like that but... I'm a Belmont Gal now...

Mostly since I can actually combo with them...


Anyways I'm kinda mad that the Holy water is hard to hit, I think it works better on stages where there's no platforms around. I do hope I can figure out how to utilize it better... Kinda wish it stayed up for longer so that I can throw into it like you can with PK Fire.

 

[Luigifan18]

I'm sorry that I flaked like that but... I'm a Belmont Gal now...

Mostly since I can actually combo with them...


Anyways I'm kinda mad that the Holy water is hard to hit, I think it works better on stages where there's no platforms around. I do hope I can figure out how to utilize it better... Kinda wish it stayed up for longer so that I can throw into it like you can with PK Fire.

PK Fire only bursts into flames if the projectile connects, though...

 

[Mc.Rad]

PK Fire only bursts into flames if the projectile connects, though...

Oh I was thinking about doubles when I was typing that. You can't do that on 1v1. The pillar also doesn't appear if you hit the opponent in the air, probably a good thing

 

[Pakky]

vs aka the hardest fight I've had in Smash as

The boys are clean

 

[Dukemon]

Richter can use superspicy Curry without having disadvantages. :D

 

[JasmineTx]

Can the Belmonts fall through stairs though

 

[Flyboy]

Can the Belmonts fall through stairs though

I swear they made it easier for them to fall through platforms because I constantly seem to drop through them after a good jump.

(I don't really think so but it has lead to some funny deaths)

 

[SmashingXan2]

So, what monsters are referenced in Simon's classic mode?

 

[kirbsmash]

SIMON IS BEST BOY

 

[Substitution]

Okay I have come for one question and one question only.
Is the tech where you pick up the Holy Water as an item called the Holy Hand Grenade in this community? This is the most important question I have here.
If it's not it should be.

 

[RonNewcomb]

Okay I have come for one question and one question only.
Is the tech where you pick up the Holy Water as an item called the Holy Hand Grenade in this community? This is the most important question I have here.
If it's not it should be.

I haven't heard of this before. Link? Explanation? Does it work on bunnies?

 

[zeldasmash]

I hope that some day we get something like this. Some of the Castlevania's are really hard to find/get so it'd be pretty cool to have this for those who want to play the whole series. They did it with Metal Gear, they can do it with this series.

Spoiler

 

[adumbrodeus]

So I'm curious, how many people who're gonna be playing him are castlevania fanpeople and how many just fell in love with the character in smash?

 

[SkippyJ]

So I'm curious, how many people who're gonna be playing him are castlevania fanpeople and how many just fell in love with the character in smash?

I just really enjoy his play style, super chess-like n I dig that. I did just pick up a SNES Classic tho so I plan on diving into the franchise any day here

 

[JohnKnight416]

Has anyone seen this video before? I figured that it would be fitting to add this video to this thread.

 

[Blackwolf666]

Well, I got my *** handed to me online by a Richter and... whoever it was made me want to pick up the Belmonts. He crushed me and rebuilt me in his image in just one match.

Honestly, the reason is because he beat me without relying on thousands of projectiles. Up to that point I only ran into Simon/Richter players that fought by just throwing cross, cross, cross, axe, cross, cross, holy water, cross, axe, axe and use the whip for just defense and only until they can get a safe enough distance to repeat their zoning cycle. I can respect zoning (a little) but it's not how I like to play. Which is why I avoided playing characters like villager. That Richter crushed me with the whip and only used projectiles to extend his combos or when I was just out of reach.

 

[TheSkuxxedOne]

Hey guys!

I made a full-blown in-depth analysis on Simon and Richter's moveset where I talk about combos, set-ups and various tech!
Let me know what you all think because I understand there are probably loads of things I missed and I am open to any feedback on how I can improve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwpoj73Spy4&list=PLyXjlmY3L3uh_RBal8PqQA0eUT-jnNpNc

 

[Empty Number]

So I'm curious, how many people who're gonna be playing him are castlevania fanpeople and how many just fell in love with the character in smash?

I became interested in him because when I read the leaks before 08/08 and none mentioned K Rool, I might as well learn to like at least one of the newcomers. During that direct Simon looked really cool and I decided I’d get to know Castlevania better. Played SCIV, Castlevania I, Castlevania III and watched the Netflix series. Planning on Rondo of Blood next.

Luckily for me K Rool came unexpectedly as well!