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hiroshi sheik vids(1/03/08 update)

Kenpachi

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For the link fights, be sure and edge guard faster. It will get you there in time to get a back kick in before his hook-shot recovery. I also think the nair trick might work with his up-b (you used this move in the falco video). Be sure and shield grab more. you guys had moments where you both shielded and waited for a second (a long time in smash...). There were also times when he attacked your shield for a good amount of time. Take advantage of these times and shield grab. It also seems like the timing of your fair is off sometimes (using it too early then just landing and taking his next attack). That just takes practice, and is hard considering all the possible trajectories he could take after a grab or attack.

I was going to mention wavelanding until i saw the falco video. Very nice! I also like the use of the nair to edge guard. i only picked that up recently and its my favorite way to edgeguard. your tech chases were also awesome, though you tried to get a few too many standing punches in sometimes and let him escape, not a big deal considering you won, but watch out for it.

the falcon video was good, it looks like your working on the shino stall too. be sure to tighten those up. really good players can wavedash between stalls if they are that high (its happened to me, heh).

thats about it this time around, keep it going!

~Kenpachi
 

Kenpachi

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No problem! Alot of those tips just reflect problems of my own too, so they're easy to spot cause I also make the same mistakes, haha. You can check it out in my videos sometime, under the thread "OSU Smash". MCS is just too fast for me...

It would be awesome to smash with ya, if we weren't on opposite sides of the country!

Keep well,

~Kenpachi
 

LeifusYourGod

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based off what i saw on the shiek vs link match you need to
a) throw more
b) dont hold ur shield up for so long
c) edge gaurd
d) learn to mix up you're moves and combos... they were getting predictable
 

In the Fray

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Vid 1 Feedback.

First off let me say this.Kudos to the link player you started off bad.but nice to see you turn the match around.Things I noticed you should work on.You short hop from the ledge to fair too much.try short to boomrang covers more range.Noticed how sheik countered your projectiles?Remember her needles only covers horizontile range while standing.try shorthoping bombs and tilted boomeranges.Last piece, Bomb jumping try tossing the bomb up and then cruving into,try to get it to land on his head and not touch the blade. Also the reverse boomerang edgegaurd was nice... and the boomerang stun time was perfect for a spin attack, what happened ?None the less nice match.
 

vericz

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Vid 1 Feedback.

First off let me say this.Kudos to the link player you started off bad.but nice to see you turn the match around.Things I noticed you should work on.You short hop from the ledge to fair too much.try short to boomrang covers more range.Noticed how sheik countered your projectiles?Remember her needles only covers horizontile range while standing.try shorthoping bombs and tilted boomeranges.Last piece, Bomb jumping try tossing the bomb up and then cruving into,try to get it to land on his head and not touch the blade. Also the reverse boomerang edgegaurd was nice... and the boomerang stun time was perfect for a spin attack, what happened ?None the less nice match.
Did you read the title?? Hiroshi sheik vids, not link
 

In the Fray

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Did you read the title?? Hiroshi sheik vids, not link
I could careless for Hiroshi sheik. I gave the link player advice because I play link. did it bother you are something ? Im sure the link player will browse the forum and get the advice not that it matters much.
 

In the Fray

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...and yet you come into the hiroshi sheik vids thread...peace

-hiroshi
* Chuckles * Dont fool yourself kid, I was looking for videos that included link in them... peferably the germ. I simply Saw that a link was in this video and decided to watch it.

And dude..... seriously stop saying peace, your only making yourself look a retro loser.
uhhhhhhh umm peace ? Do you see how stupid that sounds ?
 

h1roshi

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* Chuckles * Dont fool yourself kid, I was looking for videos that included link in them... peferably the germ. I simply Saw that a link was in this video and decided to watch it.

And dude..... seriously stop saying peace, your only making yourself look a retro loser.
uhhhhhhh umm peace ? Do you see how stupid that sounds ?
***** please. in the hip hop world saying peace i still fairly common and acceptable. you aint know **** bruh. sit down. and i aint fooling myself, i was merely stating hw you went into a thread named hiroshi sheik vids, but you couldnt car less about them. w/e. i guess i'll make this post my last pertaining to this subject to refrain from starting a flame war...peace

-hiroshi
 

vericz

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* Chuckles * Dont fool yourself kid, I was looking for videos that included link in them... peferably the germ. I simply Saw that a link was in this video and decided to watch it.

And dude..... seriously stop saying peace, your only making yourself look a retro loser.
uhhhhhhh umm peace ? Do you see how stupid that sounds ?
Yo guy, peace be nasteee

Peace BOI!!!
 

Takumaru

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You know what's funny? This whole thing started because fray responded to a two month old post...

Peas!
 

In the Fray

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***** please. in the hip hop world saying peace i still fairly common and acceptable. you aint know **** bruh. sit down. and i aint fooling myself, i was merely stating hw you went into a thread named hiroshi sheik vids, but you couldnt car less about them. w/e. i guess i'll make this post my last pertaining to this subject to refrain from starting a flame war...peace

-hiroshi
Please... Now you just sound like arrogrant black guy.
 

KevinM

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In The Fray... see i think i would try and back you up, or defend the other side of this argument.. but the thing is... I've never heard of you :confused:

I've heard of Hiroshi though, good **** on the videos man i enjoyed them.. oh and...
peace ;)
 

h1roshi

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In The Fray... see i think i would try and back you up, or defend the other side of this argument.. but the thing is... I've never heard of you :confused:

I've heard of Hiroshi though, good **** on the videos man i enjoyed them.. oh and...
peace ;)
lol, good stuff kevinM, oh and in the fray, im not black, im puerto rican gah, get that ish straight bruh. anyways, back to my videos, oh and thanks for watching the vids kevin...PEACE

-hiroshi
 

In the Fray

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In The Fray... see i think i would try and back you up, or defend the other side of this argument.. but the thing is... I've never heard of you :confused:

I've heard of Hiroshi though, good **** on the videos man i enjoyed them.. oh and...
peace ;)
:laugh:....

lol

lol, good stuff kevinM, oh and in the fray, im not black, im puerto rican gah, get that ish straight bruh. anyways, back to my videos, oh and thanks for watching the vids kevin...PEACE

-hiroshi

I know your not black... I said you sound like a black guy that ran out of things to say. Besides I dont know ANY black people that still says peace. But with the bad grammer and the use of the world Bruh ? It sounded like something a black person would say. Me be 80% Black and all.

And its believed to be pernouced like this "Bra"..... not "Bruh". But I suppose your way is good too.
 

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shame i didn't get videos with you when i was living in florida oh well great vids hiroshi.
 

In the Fray

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tru renth, if someone would have gotten you for that last TS that you didnt get to go to, we would have recorded. tis a shame tis a shame. in the fray, ofcourse i say bruh, i b from dat durty durty south boieee...peace

-hiroshi
:laugh: Yea yea yea. I never did you give you typical generic smashboards feedback. Um good stuff on the videos glad to some other great sheik players besides * Insert random good sheik player here * Hopefully we can play in each other in brawl. Anyway keep up the good work. And show us a combo video once your done.
 

brickman

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So just a couple of things. I watched one video from all of your sets.

I don't have as much experience critiquing Mario, G & W, Samus, Link, and Jigglypuff becuase, I simply do not play against them enough. When I do play them I approach them with just a "General" sheik style. I think you did a very good job against all of your opponents. Especially the C.Falcon which I can say, that was a very good sheik out of you, and a very bad (NON DI'ing) C.Falcon out of your opponent.

I only had a couple of suggestions for your sheik. Mainly, when you are coming back to the stage and your back is toward the stage you do not reverse needle, to get your body facing the stage. This way for approaching you do not have to use your explosion and makes coming back a lot easier. It is also very defensible with needles in their face, f-air, etc.

You use a LOT of needles, I guess that is just your style. I noticed it in the Samus match (obviously for projectiles) but also against Jigglypuff (interrupt jumps, etc.) but you just used it a lot. Perhaps for needle storm grabs (of which there were a good amount) and just down smashes. I can't comment anymore on that because that is your style.

I did like that amount of n-airs though. N-airs, they are too good against pillar shine happy falco's too!

Good stuff hiroshi, always enjoy your videos.
 

h1roshi

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yay, good positive feedback!!! lol, I LUV DEM NEEDLEZ BOIEEE!!!!!!! yeah, im a needle wh0re, but after hearing so many players and so many comments on smashboards saying to needle more, i started...needling more. glad you like them...peace

EDIT: I never even thought of using the reverse needle to tunr around. that is actually a great idea. i will try to start using that in my gameplay.

-hiroshi
 
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