Devastlian
Smash Lord
As I posted in the Nintendo World Trailer Sticky, I believe I have found some new material for us to discuss. But since this is a seperate trailer and shows something interesting (which is, ironicly, shown in the last scene in the trailer and is talked about in the last paragraph in this post), I (as reckoned by Bowserlick) have decided to make it into it's own thread. (The Hidden Gameplay Tweak mentioned in the title is in green.)
I remembered somehow that they showed some SSBB footage during the 2007 games montage trailer thingy (or, alternatively, you can use this YouTube link, though, you can't watch it frame by frame with YouTube) so I decided to watch it again and came upon the realisation that the four seconds shown is all unique footage (it's at 35-39 seconds if you don't wanna watch the whole thing). So, for the sake of completeness, my observations on these little tidbits. (Each dash is different scene...if you're not watching it already...)
-Opens with Link doing his neutral ground combo in the indoor castle stage.
-Then we Pikachu crawling with Kirby walking behind it on the Yoshi's Island stage (spring or summer phase, I'm guessing)
-Wario idle/about to do that back cracking thing he does in the official trailer on the supposed Battlefield
-Fox idle in the castle
-Snake idle on Shadow Moses
-Mario jumping on the supposed Battlefield during it's twilight phase
-On the supposed Battlefield: Wario dash attacking Pit (not completely sure if Pit's falling is from Wario's attack since both are in motion when the scene opens; maybe Pikachu attacked him) and Pikachu (Pit and Pikachu are sent flying in different directions which makes it hard to determine). Mario lands on a platform from offscreen and his fireball comes down shortly after which hits Wario who then gets hit by Pit (the attack is obscured by Wario and the contact graphic but it looks like it's more than one hit [like most of Pit's attacks]).
-Final scene on top of the castle under siege: ZSS does her standard frontflips...while moving backwards; she then does an aerial attack that involves two forward kicks similar to Captain Falcon's aerial neutral A and then lands.
Pit is doing a backflip and then does his twirly move with his bow but misses Pikachu (more on that later), lands, and gets hit by Kirby's returning aerial backwards A (this done during Kirby's second jump).
Now for Pikachu (and the reason I made this post). Pikachu lands from being attacked (he's noticeably on his side for a few frames after landing) and then does the roll-from-lying-down-thingy to avoid Pit's attack...but rolls right off the edge and falls down and grabs on to the edge of the stage below (which doesn't seem to have anything to do with the gameplay tweak). Not only is this roll faster than it would be in SSBM, like most of the rolls shown in the SSBB trailers, but it doesn't stop on the edge. A hidden gameplay tweak? I dunno. We'd have to see it on other platforms (like those you can ledgegrab) and other rolls. Just thought it was interesting and cool.
I remembered somehow that they showed some SSBB footage during the 2007 games montage trailer thingy (or, alternatively, you can use this YouTube link, though, you can't watch it frame by frame with YouTube) so I decided to watch it again and came upon the realisation that the four seconds shown is all unique footage (it's at 35-39 seconds if you don't wanna watch the whole thing). So, for the sake of completeness, my observations on these little tidbits. (Each dash is different scene...if you're not watching it already...)
-Opens with Link doing his neutral ground combo in the indoor castle stage.
-Then we Pikachu crawling with Kirby walking behind it on the Yoshi's Island stage (spring or summer phase, I'm guessing)
-Wario idle/about to do that back cracking thing he does in the official trailer on the supposed Battlefield
-Fox idle in the castle
-Snake idle on Shadow Moses
-Mario jumping on the supposed Battlefield during it's twilight phase
-On the supposed Battlefield: Wario dash attacking Pit (not completely sure if Pit's falling is from Wario's attack since both are in motion when the scene opens; maybe Pikachu attacked him) and Pikachu (Pit and Pikachu are sent flying in different directions which makes it hard to determine). Mario lands on a platform from offscreen and his fireball comes down shortly after which hits Wario who then gets hit by Pit (the attack is obscured by Wario and the contact graphic but it looks like it's more than one hit [like most of Pit's attacks]).
-Final scene on top of the castle under siege: ZSS does her standard frontflips...while moving backwards; she then does an aerial attack that involves two forward kicks similar to Captain Falcon's aerial neutral A and then lands.
Pit is doing a backflip and then does his twirly move with his bow but misses Pikachu (more on that later), lands, and gets hit by Kirby's returning aerial backwards A (this done during Kirby's second jump).
Now for Pikachu (and the reason I made this post). Pikachu lands from being attacked (he's noticeably on his side for a few frames after landing) and then does the roll-from-lying-down-thingy to avoid Pit's attack...but rolls right off the edge and falls down and grabs on to the edge of the stage below (which doesn't seem to have anything to do with the gameplay tweak). Not only is this roll faster than it would be in SSBM, like most of the rolls shown in the SSBB trailers, but it doesn't stop on the edge. A hidden gameplay tweak? I dunno. We'd have to see it on other platforms (like those you can ledgegrab) and other rolls. Just thought it was interesting and cool.
I have downloaded many different media players onto my computer, and Quick Time is the only one I havn't been able to get so far, so it would make sense you need Quick Time. Uurgh, ok well if you are watching it frame by frame than I guess you would have to be right about what appears to be happening. After all I was watching it at least 60 times faster than the speed you watched it.
