Hidden Gameplay Tweak in Hidden Footage? (First Post Slightly Refined)

[SOJ]

Perhaps this is a new type of roll? Perhaps it is a SMASH roll.

Like how characters have normal attacks and smash attacks, now they can have normal rolls and smash rolls. There's gotta be a drawback to this somewhere though.

Or maybe it just is the new roll.

 

[Devastlian]

Hmm...a tilt roll stops you at the edge and a smash roll rolls you off the edge? Sounds plausible. Be cool if they talked about this in one of the updates soon. :1

 

[Stuhddabahkz]

I hope that there's just one roll. If you roll near an edge, you roll off, and if this is the main platform, to auto-edge-hog. Meh, I'm weird like that.

-Joot

 

[Knifey McStab]

awesome find. zamus is getting cooler and cooler

 

[lonewolfe]

Wow, thank you for this. I knew the rolls would be different, but rolling off edges would be awesome.

 

[Knifey McStab]

wonder if you can roll like that out of a crawl? that would lead to so some gread edge hogs which means scrubs won't have to learn wavedash to grab the ledge anymore. booo!!

 

[lonewolfe]

wonder if you can roll like that out of a crawl? that would lead to so some gread edge hogs which means scrubs won't have to learn wavedash to grab the ledge anymore. booo!!

Off topic, but I don't understand the point of crawling.....just for laughs??

 

[Knifey McStab]

if you ever wanted to move while crouching, here's your chance. say a fox is spamming lasers directly horizontally, you can crouch to avoid them but that doesn't get you any closer. also, fox can't double laser someone who is crouching.

however if crawling were too effective, say it went about the same speed as running, you would see matches where people would crawl the entire time because of it's effectiveness against projectile spammers.

i don't think i've seen anyone do anything out of a crawl but my guess is that you can jump out of it or roll of it or maybe you can even attack out of it

 

[lonewolfe]

Good example with fox's lasers, thanks. And if it turns out to be a fast crawl that'd be pretty interesting.

 

[Demon_machinE]

Wow, its been awhile since this was discussed, but I remember people seeing this 5 days after the trailer was released so its far from new news.

But its a good idea to have a thread about it.

Personally I think this is bull****, and yet more proof that sakurai is dumbing this game down for newbies.

 

[Knifey McStab]

Wow, its been awhile since this was discussed, but I remember people seeing this 5 days after the trailer was released so its far from new news.

But its a good idea to have a thread about it.

Personally I think this is bull****, and yet more proof that sakurai is dumbing this game down for newbies.

what do you mean?

are you talking about how i pointed out how nubs could edgeguard now?

i was just kidding.....as if they know how to edgeguard

 

[Stuhddabahkz]

however if crawling were too effective, say it went about the same speed as running, you would see matches where people would crawl the entire time because of it's effectiveness against projectile spammers.

Pikachu's a pretty fast runner, you'd say, right? Well then, I don't think so. In the second trailer, we saw Pika crawling, and it was kinda slow, not as slow as a walk, but not as fast as the dash. So, I dunno. But yeah, I think crawl enables avoidance of projectiles but still allowing you to advance towards your opponents. Plus, it'll most likely be used in 1P since it's a sidescroller.

Unlike Demon Machine, I like it. It puts you in a position to be attacked since it's sorta slow, but it's a race because the crawler has to get there before the spammer's lag wears off, and the spammer has to realize the crawling in time to stop so the lag has wore off before he' attacked. Melikes.

 

[Jakatsu]

I really don't know where I stand, Maybe Sakurai's team made edge hogging easy by just rolling into the ledge, or maybe everything has been changed. We really wont know until Release/Update.

 

[Stuhddabahkz]

We really wont know until Release/Update.

Mood-killer.