Hi, I'm Gimpyfish.

[Gimpyfish62]

What's your name?

 

[RFrizzle]

Bobby

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

I'm Jorge.

I just got into this "Bowser" character a few months ago. Your tag helped me push forward with him a lot. c:

 

[Kink-Link5]

Why can't Bowser be dumb on YS's platforms anymore Gimpyfish no capital f?

 

[Hoey988]

I'm thinking about changing my name to ForwardSmash.

 

[Naggy]

Yo I'm Naggy.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

Why can't Bowser be dumb on YS's platforms anymore Gimpyfish no capital f?

he can, and he can on almost every stage now - instead of pressing jump and immediately being on platforms that are only ys height, you can just press jump and airdodge down as soon as your'e at the platform's height on pretty much any platform

then you can be silly on many stages

also all the edges act like yoshi's story ledges from melee if you weren't aware.

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

Ledgejump into platform wavelands is super legit. Adds a lot of mobility to Bowser.

 

[cannedbread]

is boozer still cute or is he a little more handsome this time around? i think he's matured a lot and it would be kind of embarrasing to call him cute.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

bowser is adorable do you SEE that forward crawl?

nothing wrong with being cute and being a boss - he's done it since 1985 and he's showing no signs of stopping now.

 

[cannedbread]

i don't know that crawl to me seems p serious like he's on an espionage mission or something. i'm just saying like how much longer can he be cute because he's totally growing up i don't want to be too attached to the cute or else he'll end up like not cute when he grows up like beans from even stevens or something yknow??

why are there so many lurkers in here

 

[Kink-Link5]

I just want to crawl for 8 minutes so the screen never stops shaking.

 

[Vaerix]

Boozer is beautiful.

 

[DrinkingFood]

New boozer is best boozer
Bigger boozer is now fattier and cuter

I think he could be better though and without being broken; the changes wouldn't even have to be like super radical
Just something like a slightly faster nair (or earlier armor) and a 6 frame jumpstart

If we wanted to be daring (I almost typed dairing, lol I'm such a falco player), we could even give him a JCable usmash (since its startup looks exactly like a jumpstartup) for tons of options and a non-super dedicated move and a fireball instead of firebreath (Or maybe with fire breath?!?!? Quick tap for fireball, hold for breath maybe?) with a charge up time like ROB's laser (for not super broken spamminess, with violating the chargup giving a weak shortrange fireball) and the same landing cancel as flame breath does. Bowser could be so much cooler and less "ZOMG I'M JUST GONNA ****ING POWER THROUGH EVERYTHING"ness. Which isn't a bad thing but I don't think it's the maximum coolness he could have, although he is already pretty dang cool.

Those are just what I WOULD suggest if we were allowed to suggest, but since we aren't allowed to suggestionizing I'm just discussing my theoretical suggestions, which we could totally discuss in a kind of metasuggestion discussion, since I guess this is like the boozer social thread or something. Just make sure to remember the "metasuggestion" tags so the devs can read our metasuggestions without feeling like, peer pressure or whatever it is they are afeared of.

If players are allowed to have quarternary characters then boozer is definitely mine

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

New boozer is best boozer
Bigger boozer is now fattier and cuter

I think he could be better though and without being broken; the changes wouldn't even have to be like super radical
Just something like a slightly faster nair (or earlier armor) and a 6 frame jumpstart

If we wanted to be daring (I almost typed dairing, lol I'm such a falco player), we could even give him a JCable usmash (since its startup looks exactly like a jumpstartup) for tons of options and a non-super dedicated move and a fireball instead of firebreath (Or maybe with fire breath?!?!? Quick tap for fireball, hold for breath maybe?) with a charge up time like ROB's laser (for not super broken spamminess, with violating the chargup giving a weak shortrange fireball) and the same landing cancel as flame breath does. Bowser could be so much cooler and less "ZOMG I'M JUST GONNA ****ING POWER THROUGH EVERYTHING"ness. Which isn't a bad thing but I don't think it's the maximum coolness he could have, although he is already pretty dang cool.

Those are just what I WOULD suggest if we were allowed to suggest, but since we aren't allowed to suggestionizing I'm just discussing my theoretical suggestions, which we could totally discuss in a kind of metasuggestion discussion, since I guess this is like the boozer social thread or something. Just make sure to remember the "metasuggestion" tags so the devs can read our metasuggestions without feeling like, peer pressure or whatever it is they are afeared of.

If players are allowed to have quarternary characters then boozer is definitely mine

I would hate Bowser getting a faster jump start because Bowser is balanced around being a tank (So, super slow and super powerful.). Having a significantly faster Nair has pretty much the same effect; You would be distancing yourself from his current concept, and i don't really feel like that's a neccesity right now.

I feel that Bowser is properly balanced as he is right now..that is, maybe he could get subtle tweaks and changes on his moves to make them slightly better (Or even worse, in some specific cases), but that's it. His immense strengths are backed up by his immense weaknesses, to the point in where he can definitively do pretty decently vs most of the cast, but not to the point of either being overpowered or underpowered.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I think you're over exaggerating how well he can do... he's still got pretty much all the issues old Bowser had, some even worse, the only difference is he's a little scarier to mess up around now... the slow powerful tank concept is still terrible on paper in smash because speed is exponentially more important than strength in this game. Sure, the intention is to balance him around being slow, but it doesn't appear to be well done as he doesn't even have tournament results to make me think twice about how good he is. It's not like an earlier nair or jumpstart would even make him a faster character though, because he'd still be extremely slow. But remember that small changes are big on a competitive level, even without removing a character's identity, and a faster nair+jumpstart may be what he needs to break pressure against platform happy opponents that are less susceptible to up-b. Not to mention the various benefits of speeding up jumpstart, such as being able to get into the air for aerial follow-ups slightly earlier, and being able to wavedash/move between platforms two frames earlier as well.

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

I still disagree, but since it's pretty much for the same reasons already stated on my points, there's really no point to continue arguing

I'll just say, i'm very comfortable with the spot Bowser currently has in Project M's metagame, and i don't feel like he really needs any significant changes at all.

 

[choknater]

Gimpy doesn't believe me when I say Bowser is the best in the game. This character is godlikeeeeeee.

 

[ELI-mination]

Neither do I.

and the correct spelling is "Gahlike"

 

[Gimpyfish62]

"i've played this game for approximately 2 weeks and i have a friend who got 2nd vs melee players who also do not understand project m fully therefore bowser is the best in the game"

~ a summary

EDIT:
that was probably more rude than intended

anyway

i really love bowser, a lot, and i love talking about bowser, but can we just leave the "this character is ________ good/bad in project m 2.5" discussions for at LEAST a few months after release? lol

 

[Master WGS]

Bowser is too big to be the best.

Ever.

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

Bowser doesn't have a shine

Obviously not top 10

 

[KayB]

Mix PM Bowser with SD Remix Bowser and you've got a gahdlike character. And he's already gahdlike in both games lol. Bowser in YS and FoD is stupid.

Also, amazing avatar Chaos_Blasta. Have all my internet points.

 

[himemiya]

What's your name?

Hey koopa, I'm tsukikomi.

 

[DrinkingFood]

"i've played this game for approximately 2 weeks and i have a friend who got 2nd vs melee players who also do not understand project m fully therefore bowser is the best in the game"

~ a summary

EDIT:
that was probably more rude than intended

anyway

i really love bowser, a lot, and i love talking about bowser, but can we just leave the "this character is ________ good/bad in project m 2.5" discussions for at LEAST a few months after release? lol

Well i mean,this Bowser HAS been out for nearly 9 months now...

Hey koopa, I'm tsukikomi.

why do you have so many accounts on here?

 

[cmart]

Hi, I'm Susan

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

Mix PM Bowser with SD Remix Bowser and you've got a gahdlike character. And he's already gahdlike in both games lol. Bowser in YS and FoD is stupid.

Also, amazing avatar Chaos_Blasta. Have all my internet points.

Thanks. <3

 

[ELI-mination]

Hi, I'm gahlike.

 

[himemiya]

why do you have so many accounts on here?

Because I'm a troll.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I don't think you know what that word means
because it doesn't mean "person who makes many accounts on one site"

 

[himemiya]

I have absulutly no idea what you just said.

 

[choknater]

Man do u understand how good sfat is hahaha. But Yah its true he didn't really understand what was going on with my character

 

[traffic.]

Hi I'm traffic, i'm the (second) coolest bowser in the NW. what up g.

 

[Tmacc]

I'm Tmacc.

Bowser is fun and stuff.

Fair op.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

Hello .

 

[Shin_Mazinkaiser]

Neither do I.

and the correct spelling is "Gahlike"

*Gawliek

 

[Iron Jawbone]

What's your name?

Jawbone, or "Bowser Guy" if people get lazy. Probably should get around to paying a couple bucks to change my name. Geez, it's been almost ten freakin' years.

 

[deadjames]

I'm deadjames.

 

[Strong Badam]

Hi I'm Daisy!

 

[Viceversa96]

Hi I'm Daisy!

Lol That reminds me of BrainSratchComms