HG/SS Ditto glitch?

[IC3R]

Gogo TrickScarf Jask!

 

[UltiMario]

It loses to SporeJasks.

Because they'll go first after the trade.

:V

 

[betterthanbonds9]

Ninjask Spore/Stealth Rock/Something baton passable/Baton Pass

only thing you need is ninjask's ability, passing speed is awesome last slot can be anything really

the set i posted of scarf ninjask with drill peck works wonders as would rockslide (not sure if jolly works or not, but it definitely would with rockslide, drillpeck is more difficult) in order to OHKO opposing ninjask, and then make your move based off anything else.

 

[IC3R]

It loses to SporeJasks.

Because they'll go first after the trade.

:V

Switch to sleep-absorber?

:V

 

[Terywj [태리]]

In a Spore-filled metagame, Pokemon like Honchkrow, Primeape, Hypno, and Vigoroth would get a massive usage spike. Maybe even the lesser extents like Shed Skin users (Arbok, etc.)

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Sleep Talkers, too.

It'd be like GSC. Everything asleep.

Who's up for a 150 min match?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Yeah, but that would mean just the Sleep Talking strategy in general, since almost everything knows Sleep Talk.

I was mentioning those specific Pokemon for their immunity to Sleep.

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

It would also decrease the usage of moves that cannot be selected by Sleep Talk, like Focus Punch.

Skill Swap Regigigas.

Best non-spore idea in this entire thread?

 

[E123-omega]

Worry seed doesn't work on Regisucky, what makes you think skill swap will?

 

[Metal~Mario]

http://www.smogon.com/dp/abilities/slow_start

Cuz Smogon sez so.

Regigigas needs moar props, man.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Change his ability, and then maybe he can talk. I'd use Slowking over him anyday.

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Real men use Regigigas.

He is, after all, almost as bulky as Arceus.

 

[SpiredMoth]

Skill Swap Regigigas.

Isn't this still impossible even with this glitch? I could have sworn that Regigigas has never had access to Transform or Mimic.

 

[betterthanbonds9]

buzz killlllllll

But yes, you need to basically be a gen 3 pokemon to learn this. So skill swap slaking works, but this will not work on regigigas.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Exactly. Besides, who needs Skill Swap Slaking when you can have Explosion Slaking?

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Who needs explosion slaking when you have explosion Kangaskhan.

THERE IS NO ESCAPE

 

[Metal~Mario]

I'd rather have explosion Miltank so I can Curse first.

 

[betterthanbonds9]

why curse when you can dragon dance?

 

[Pink Reaper]

Why dragon dance when you can Swords Dance?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Why Swords Dance when you can Wish+Belly Drum?

I'm only kidding.

I'm betting some Pokemon could make good use of that combo, though.

-Terywj

 

[Pink Reaper]

Wish+Belly Drum isnt even that good, still leaves you really open >.>

 

[betterthanbonds9]

Why dragon dance when you can Swords Dance?

speed boost

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Swords Dance = Move
Speed Boost = Ability

Move =/= Ability

-Terywj

 

[betterthanbonds9]

Swords Dance = Move
Speed Boost = Ability

Move =/= Ability

-Terywj

lol, I'm sorry, how about this?

"I would choose Dragon Dance because I believe that the increase to the speed stat by one stage while simultaneously increasing attack stat by one stage to be invaluable in a battle especially because without the increase you are increasingly vulnerable to pokemon that simply outspeed you like infernape."

Or maybe just: "the boost in speed"

 

[AfroThunderRule]

Skill Swap Slaking >__>

 

[Terywj [태리]]

lol, I'm sorry, how about this?

"I would choose Dragon Dance because I believe that the increase to the speed stat by one stage while simultaneously increasing attack stat by one stage to be invaluable in a battle especially because without the increase you are increasingly vulnerable to pokemon that simply outspeed you like infernape."

Or maybe just: "the boost in speed"

Or with Swords Dance and priority, who gives a Muk about outspeeding things? XD

-Terywj

 

[betterthanbonds9]

explosion isn't priority <_<, that's why

-----------------------------------

of all the weird things we've talked about, i dont see why skill swap slaking is rediculous....

I mean, getting rid of truant and giving it to the opponent is amazing

100 base speed
160 base attack
same as regigigas. Regigigas has 10 more base defense, 15 less SpA, 40 less HP, but 45 more SpD

Granted, Slaking wouldn't be much in this metagame regardless of skill swap, but having the strongest attack in the game sounds pretty good

(well, besides powerswap shuckle rollout)

 

[Moozle]

Skill swap slaking is epic in team battles.

Edit: and by the way, I think you seem to be forgetting that not only does slaking lose truant, but the opponent becomes truant Slaking > Regigigas

 

[UltiMario]

Skill Swap Slaking is even better in 1v1.

Whats better than Skill Swapping your Truant to an OPPONENT?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

That's Truant, not Taunt.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Super fail massive typo.

 

[SpiredMoth]

Granted, Slaking wouldn't be much in this metagame regardless of skill swap, but having the second strongest attack in the game sounds pretty good

(well, besides powerswap shuckle rollout)

Fix'd

You seem to have forgotten that Rampardos has a base Attack stat of 165

 

[UltiMario]

I hope we're talking Non-Uber attacks.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I hope we're talking Non-Uber attacks.

I agree as well, because everyone is clearly forgetting about their favorite mutant DNA creature.

-Terywj

 

[ss118]

or choice specs kyogre

 

[betterthanbonds9]

Fix'd

You seem to have forgotten that Rampardos has a base Attack stat of 165

Not attack stat, the actual attack

here's something i typed thinking you said that explosion was the second strongest attack...I'm just gonna keep this up here because the math took time in case i ever want to use it again

base 160 attack stat with STAB of the strongest move in the game, which also halves defense

AKA: STAB on what is effectively 500 base power move
=750 base power behind 160 base attack

But Shuckle after powerswap is 230 base, then use defense curl, then use rollout
STAB 60*2^4 (so the 5th attack)
=1440 base power behind 230 base attack

So yeah, along with iceball, rollout is the strongest move in the game. But let's ignore those and just say it's explosion because explosion takes 1 turn and those take 5