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Hey Cool Guys, is Cookie Dough a flavor?

EmuKiller

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EmuKiller?! More like... FREEmuKiller!!!!!!
Hey guys I just got back from Viridian and me and Doom were talking about the best flavors and we were like

"Hey man buffalo is the best flavor ever".

and I was like

"actually hmmmm... I'd say cookie dough"

And everyone was like

"awww man EmuKiller you're so smart and right all the time no wonder you have the best mind games and win every tournament I love cookie dough too!"

And then Doom said

"WAIT A MINUTE"

and we all stared at him for a little while and he continued after finishing his dramatic pause

"Cookie dough is NOT a flavor"

and I said

"huh?"

and he said

"it's an addition. Like "chocolate covered pretzels" or "peanut butter cup". It's not a flavor!"

and I was like

"Listen Doom you're dumb and not top 10 in the state like I am cookie dough is totally a flavor and things can be cookie dough flavored indeed."

and the conversation continued on like this. Needless to say I feel the best way to conclude this debate is with the popular consensus of the beast coast tea room. Since there's PROBABLY (and by probably... I mean... MOST DEF) going to be a lot of Debating there's also going to be a lot of debatable debating GIFs.



So seriously guys. Is cookie dough a flavor or not?
 

Max Ketchum

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Cookie dough is most certainly NOT a flavor!

And EmuKiller is most certainly not top 10 in the state, nor is he better than me. ;)
 

Max Ketchum

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See, what I'd define as a flavor would be something that is capable of being put into an abstract form, rather than only existing as a concrete. You've never seen ice cream that is purely made of cookie dough, have you? Nope, it's only chunks of cookie dough in vanilla ice cream. Vanilla is the flavor of the ice cream, cookie dough is the specification of the product.

Buffalo is especially specific to being a flavor. "Buffalo" does not exist on its own. There's buffalo sauce, but what's that? Sauce with buffalo flavoring. Cookie dough is arguably cookie flavored, given that is dough with the flavoring of cookies. When you eat sugar cookies, are the cookies sugar flavored? No, the sugar is an additive to the cookies, much like the cookie dough is an additive to ice cream.

Many things exist in both worlds. For example, orange is a flavor, but has a concrete form.

Edit:
because Emu is lame
 

Max Ketchum

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Fail.

It's not a flavor, it's a type of ice cream. When they start incorporating cookie dough into the recipe of the actual cream, thereby making your entire bowl cookie dough + ice cream homogeneously mixed, then it will be a flavor. For now, cookie dough is reduced to mere chunks in a vast sea of vanilla cream.
 

Max Ketchum

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Double post, yeah, infract me *****es.

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doomsong123 (12:07:44 AM): You're a pretty reasonable guy
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doomsong123 (12:09:22 AM): You're a ******, so you're wrong by default
I dmbrandon l (12:09:26 AM): LMAO


I WIN
 

Darth Waffles

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Hmmm... interesting point Doom. I was going to agree with the first few posts but after reading your side and thinking about it more, I'm not as sure.

You know what, after reading this a few times...
You've never seen ice cream that is purely made of cookie dough, have you? Nope, it's only chunks of cookie dough in vanilla ice cream. Vanilla is the flavor of the ice cream, cookie dough is the specification of the product.
...I see where you're coming from. Regular cookies themselves, by this example, aren't even "cookie-dough-flavored." They're vanilla flavored, since you use vanilla or vanilla extract, which are flavors.

Alright, cookie dough isn't a flavor, then. Rather, it's an "extra or on top" ingredient, similar to sprinkles, M&Ms, or even Oreo cookies. It's more of an internal topping, oxymoron completely intended =)

Some of your definitions on what does or doesn't constitute being a flavor were kind of unclear though.
 

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Look at it this way.

I purchase an Oreo Blizzard at Dairy Queen. Is this Blizzard Oreo flavored? No. It includes Oreos, and is Oreo-type, so to speak (given that there are Blizzards with and without Oreos). The ice cream included in the Blizzard is generally vanilla. The addition of Oreos to the confection does not change the flavor of the object in its simplest form. It still remains vanilla ice cream.

Edit: Darth Waffles (Fishy?), cookies don't generally have flavors, except for chocolate cookies, because the entirety of the cookie is made up of chocolate. Chocolate chip is not a legitimate flavor of cookie, it is instead a TYPE of cookie, much like cookie dough is a type of ice cream.
 

Darth Waffles

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Yea, I'm FISHY. I should really get on that name-change thing lol
I purchase an Oreo Blizzard at Dairy Queen. Is this Blizzard Oreo flavored? No. It includes Oreos, and is Oreo-type, so to speak (given that there are Blizzards with and without Oreos). The ice cream included in the Blizzard is generally vanilla. The addition of Oreos to the confection does not change the flavor of the object in its simplest form. It still remains vanilla ice cream.
This part I agree with, as long as we go by your definition. If someone takes "flavor" to simply mean "variation" or "kind" rather than "essential and possibly taste-able ingredient," then it's a different story. The point depends on an accepted definition. Wonder what dmbrandon's cooking teacher said =P

cookies don't generally have flavors, except for chocolate cookies, because the entirety of the cookie is made up of chocolate. Chocolate chip is not a legitimate flavor of cookie, it is instead a TYPE of cookie, much like cookie dough is a type of ice cream.
This part I kind of agree with. Chocolate is the flavor, not chocolate chip, so I agree with you there. Cookies are harder to define because you use vanilla no matter what(?) kind you make or what type of sugar you use. Vanilla is just a "recessive" gene in the flavor pool, so it gets ignored in favor of chocolate, the dominating trait when present, even though both flavors were used. Does this also apply to something like Fig Newtons? I say this because while all fig newtons are technically "Vanilla," they also go by the flavor on the inside. This is important because you can have "strawberry fig newtons." Strawberry is, of course, a flavor, much like vanilla or chocolate. Thus, what would happen if you filled a Fig Newton with cookie dough? Would that "make" it a flavor?

Interesting... =P
 

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Despite the presence of vanilla extract in cookies, I wouldn't say it constitutes as the flavor of said cookies, given that it's a mandatory ingredient that doesn't have much presence when taste is considered. I would say most cookies do not have a flavor.
 

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Buffalo wouldnt be a flavor either by Doom's standards, since it's when something is just made to taste like Buffalo sauce.
 

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Chocolate stuffed pwns all. At one point I thought I didn't like oreos at all and then I had chocolate filled... it's awesome.

And that transition to oreos was so forced.
 

bajisci

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cookies and cream is only good because it's single stuffed, and single stuffed oreos are far superior to double stuffed.

OH GAWD. HERE WE GO....



oh no u didnt! It is quite OBVIOUS that DOUBLE stuffed oreos are the best of them all. Fool i should smack u.



Your ignorance makes me so angry. tsk tsk




P.S. ur gifs suck

P.P.S. Cookie Dough is obviously a flavor just like cake batter is a flavor at cold stone. noobs.
 

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Doom, i agree. Cookie dough is not a flavor.

It is a religious experience. Any dessert related thing that u add cookie dough to will automatically be delicious. It's just that good.

Buffalo sauce is a flavor because, like Doom said, it CAN be completely mixed thru the product to make it buffalo flavored. For example, Snyder's Hot Buffalo Wing Pretzels. Buffalo flavor mixed thoroughly thru the pretzel dough to create a buffalo-flavored pretzel. Sadly, the awesomeness known as cookie dough is too thick and chunky to mix through something unless u were to take the extract of it (idk how you would do that, but it's def possible) and use that. Then and ONLY then would cookie dough be a flavor... ... and it would probably be awesome.

Also, Double Stuf is SOOO much better than regular Oreos. The cream on the inside is the best part, the chocolate cookies on the outside are just for accent, dum-dums!

For your health!



 

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ROFL Melon, those pretzels are what sparked the conversation! I have a bag in front of me right now. Too good.
 

bajisci

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Doom, i agree. Cookie dough is not a flavor.

It is a religious experience. Any dessert related thing that u add cookie dough to will automatically be delicious. It's just that good.

Buffalo sauce is a flavor because, like Doom said, it CAN be completely mixed thru the product to make it buffalo flavored. For example, Snyder's Hot Buffalo Wing Pretzels. Buffalo flavor mixed thoroughly thru the pretzel dough to create a buffalo-flavored pretzel. Sadly, the awesomeness known as cookie dough is too thick and chunky to mix through something unless u were to take the extract of it (idk how you would do that, but it's def possible) and use that. Then and ONLY then would cookie dough be a flavor... ... and it would probably be awesome.

Also, Double Stuf is SOOO much better than regular Oreos. The cream on the inside is the best part, the chocolate cookies on the outside are just for accent, dum-dums!

For your health!
this dude knows his ****
 

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if youre going by the logic that buffalo is a flavor and cookie dough isn't you're wrong


buffalo is made up of different things to make it what it is

imo everything has a flavor

Whether it be the way vanilla extract tastes or the way it tastes when you eat 5 different foods at once

but this whole discussion is making me hungry
 
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