Help against peach!

[omG_A_coW]

I have a really hard time facing peach. I can only hill her at pretty high percentages because otherwise she just comes back. 1 small mistake and i get d smashed for 40%. I have a hard time getting back on the stage because she can float off the stage or to where my recovery is landing. Her >throw owns me near the edges. I also feel like most of her moves come out a lot quicker than mine so I think i can get a hit but she intercepts it. (I think) her sidestep is MUCH faster than mine and thats also a disadvantage.

T.T suggestions?

 

[Vall3y]

u shouldnt use sidesteps anyway
dont cc the dsmash, and it shouldnt hit you that bad. that move is quite hard to land on falcon anyway
make sure you di the fthrow, and knee her when its time. the percentage arent that high.
i guess peach's moves beat falcon's if you go head to head, so use your speed and cunning to hit her smartly

 

[omG_A_coW]

Speed and cunning are good for when im not getting hit. BUt i find that peach combos falcon realy well. And usually my attacks will hit her too far away to combo, but not far away enough for a kill.

For the Dsmash, sometimes I will get caught jumping up to peach from under a platform, and that dsmash REALLY hurts. I knwo not to do it but sometimes I just get caught up in it.

 

[Bailey]

Peach can only really Up Throw to a N-Air on Falcon. Falcon should **** her.

You shouldn't be taking 40% from a Down Smash because you shouldn't be holding down at all near the Peach.

One grab against a Peach can do like 50% if done right. Just Down Throw, N-Air, N-Air, Knee or you can U-Air, U-Air, Knee. Or by the edge just Down Throw to D-Air.

 

[OmgItsWill]

Well I don't play many Peaches, but when I do, I find that Uair is my best friend in this matchup. It comes out insanely fast. That and the knee of course.

I think at around 40% you can dthrow--->uair--->uair-->knee or dthrow-->uair-->knee.

Yeah, and what Vall3y said: you shouldnt use sidestep for falcon. It has horrible lag when compared to really good ones like fox/falco.

 

[Binx]

Peach can chainthrow at 30% and do quite a few of them, dsmash should not be doing 40% unless you CCed or jumped into her while she was using the whornado on a platform, both of which are easily avoided, a grab can be followed by another grab if they DI away, if they DI anywhere except away you can nair > whatever her. With good DI she is really hard to kill still but its easier with falcon that other characters.

Just remember throws own, once she starts spend more time in the air to avoid grabs then spaced uairs and nairs own.

GL buddy.

 

[CanISmash]

ehhh playing both characters peach> falcon... not by that much but still

falcon needs to grab a lot for this match up. with grabs he can set up some really long n-air, up air combos and finishing with a knee. obviously down throw knee at high percentages...

but running in with shuffles peach can f-tilt--- n-air or other combos and stop you in your tracks. f-tilt goes through all of c. falcs approaches. + a good peach has a super easy time edge guarding the already easy to edgeguard falcon. turnips, plus floating outside the match can def keep him off.

peach is slow use it to your advantage, dd, and grab a lot and work on combos from grabs.

 

[omG_A_coW]

So much excellent advice! Thanks Gunna go practice right now!

 

[AIDS]

down throw, nair, nair, up air, knee mission compweet
down throw, up throw, up air, knee

lol but for real learn to juiggle her with Nairs and U airs, and when u know you are gunna lose it, go for that self convincing satisfactional knee

 

[Tritan]

Not a lot of people mention this but practice catching items. It's amazing how much less of a threat those turnips are when you can throw them back on a whim.

Do not ever, ever, ever crouch cancel with a dsmashing peach. It's painful to even think about. ><

The rest everyone else has said already. It's a lot of throw game with peach. She floats just enough at low percent that I feel like I can really follow up a throw with some sick combo'ing.

I also noticed not many mentioned stomp. The stomp is incredibly good for those dsmashing peaches since she's in the animation so long. You end up with plenty of time to visually confirm it, read a newspaper, make a sandwich, and then decide to stomp. High enough percent and you get a nice juicy bounce. Mmmmmm bounce - > uair x ? - > Knee

Also, a lot of this game is mind game over move priority. If you're going up against someone who try's to place move priority over mind games, you should be able to learn their game fairly fast and start baiting out their big moves. (like dsmash) Read: dash dancing. Remember, you're playing another human. Not peach herself. She will be different in every single players hands.

TLDR Version: Mindgames trump everything. Don't get frustrated and try to sit back and work around her with falcons speed.

 

[abit_rusty]

Bair/Uair as finishers. It's basically just playing smart to rack up damage and do bair/uair kills >.>

You can go for the down throw to knee but just be careful since they can spam nair and hit you at the very last second. DI/percent dependent of course.

 

[TheManaLord]

Uair all the time, nair a lot, bair a lot. Use knee's a good amount. Use throws a lot. Don't use tilts really. Don't do smash attacks.

That covers it.

 

[Toushi]

make sure you throw in some empty shffls to keep the peach guessing when you will attack

 

[Bailey]

A Falcon shouldn't be Chain Grabbed at all by Peach or Marth because of his weird weight, falling style and DI