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Shulk's trailer was the best because it had Shulk in it therefore 10/10-ign
I'm letting my fanboy bias possess me on this one
I'm letting my fanboy bias possess me on this one
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Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread
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TechPowah
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So, I caught something interesting: Shulk's Counter-Vision has two different versions: Countering Marth's Shield Breaker had Shulk reel in to wind up for a good sword swing, while his counter against Falcon Punch made Shulk dash around Captain Falcon to backstab him, and either version had Marth and Falcon sent away in opposite directions from where Shulk was (Marth flew away from Shulk's front and Falcon from Shulk's back.)
What this normally means is that you can use the control stick to choose which direction the counter sends opponents off in. However, i think there's a more interesting reason; Countering just before impact makes the counter stronger than if you had waited for them wind up and you counter in preparation, making the counter's startup frames have a sweetspot in s sense. My reasoning for this is that when Shulk counters Shield Breaker, he started the counter a little early before hitting Marth for normal countering knockback, but with Falcon, Shulk dodged to the other side of him doing a Reverse Falcon Punch, and countered immediately before it hit Shulk, which then did the backward counter-hit and Falcon gave off the black lightning effect from severe hits.
Now, the damage/knockback theory can be argued with because Reverse Falcon Punch is stronger than Shield Breaker to begin with. However, that wouldn't explain why Shulk would have different animations for them or why he would bother timing the two different instances of a Counter-Vision differently, leading to the theory that Shulk gets better results from a more immediately activated counterhit.
TL,DR: The longer you wait to Counter-Vision against an attack, the stronger the counterhit will be.
What this normally means is that you can use the control stick to choose which direction the counter sends opponents off in. However, i think there's a more interesting reason; Countering just before impact makes the counter stronger than if you had waited for them wind up and you counter in preparation, making the counter's startup frames have a sweetspot in s sense. My reasoning for this is that when Shulk counters Shield Breaker, he started the counter a little early before hitting Marth for normal countering knockback, but with Falcon, Shulk dodged to the other side of him doing a Reverse Falcon Punch, and countered immediately before it hit Shulk, which then did the backward counter-hit and Falcon gave off the black lightning effect from severe hits.
Now, the damage/knockback theory can be argued with because Reverse Falcon Punch is stronger than Shield Breaker to begin with. However, that wouldn't explain why Shulk would have different animations for them or why he would bother timing the two different instances of a Counter-Vision differently, leading to the theory that Shulk gets better results from a more immediately activated counterhit.
TL,DR: The longer you wait to Counter-Vision against an attack, the stronger the counterhit will be.
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Skyfox2000
War it never changes...
Shulk's has the best Trailer out of all of the Newcomers. I don't know much about Xenoblade but Shulks reveal makes me want to find it and buy it! Shulk is going to be one of my Mains.
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Bedoop
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I've just now noticed how similar me and Shulk are.
Same colored eyes, hair, ect.
We both have black/red clothes as our usual attire
Interest in Machinery (atleast, before the Mechon did some things, in Shulk's case)
Now if only I had a british accent... ah well, I'll just stick with my Canadi-Australian Accent.
As for if I'm maining Shulk, probably. Doctor Mario takes priority, but if I find more fun in Shulk then I'm definitely maining him.
I guess you could say "I'm really feeling it!"
#ReynTime
Same colored eyes, hair, ect.
We both have black/red clothes as our usual attire
Interest in Machinery (atleast, before the Mechon did some things, in Shulk's case)
Now if only I had a british accent... ah well, I'll just stick with my Canadi-Australian Accent.
As for if I'm maining Shulk, probably. Doctor Mario takes priority, but if I find more fun in Shulk then I'm definitely maining him.
I guess you could say "I'm really feeling it!"
#ReynTime
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Skyfox2000
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Anybody got any gifs up from the reveal trailer? Would love to see them!
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there a couple pages back lol
Skyfox2000
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@MASTERLINKX Have you did an Analyze on the "leaked" video and the reveal trailer yet?
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can we have a gif of robin and Shulk bro fisting?I think not.
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I have to admit, I do like the idea of Shulk and Robin being friendly rivals of sorts. It seems rather fitting for the two.
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Considering their broskins are their Final Smashes, this lends more support for that. They'd be also crazy in teams if taken in their personalities and strengths.
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yeah I can see them being friends in Smash
Sabrewulf238
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Who ever heard of it being "Robin Time" though?I think not.
Poser.
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Judging by your sig you just have a thing for fair haired swordsmen.Who ever heard of it being "Robin Time" though?
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You know I love you Robin, I have a severe conflict of interests here.
Nothing wrong with that!
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Robin: "Hey, we reached a B rank support : D"
Shulk: "What are you talking about, we're at 3 hearts of affinity"
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They'd make excellent partners in battle- Shulk can "see" the future and Robin's ability as a Tactician allows him to "see" everything on the battlefield. Together, they'd be able to topple armies with strategies that nobody else would ever see coming.
Personally, I think they'd make good teammates in team battles too. Robin could run interference with his/her tomes when Shulk needs to change his Arts, while Shulk could use his excellent range abilities to defend Robin when his/her tomes run out.
erico9001
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Am I the only one secretly hoping that Shulk is hard to get used to but viable? I want people to know I like Shulk the character not just Shulk the moveset :S
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How about it's Shulk time and time to tip the scales!I think not.
Shulk and Robin would basically be an unstoppable team. Heck, I bet the mechanics of both of their games would make them more unstoppable (Shulk's Arts being able to support each other in battle by offering more powerful attacks and more defense and better speed, Shulk's ability to topple and daze people to leave them more off-guard, Shulk being able to do more damage depending on where he attacks the enemy, Robin's access to swords and tomes will give him no problems with defensive and special defensive enemies, Robin's Pair-Up even offering MORE stat boosts, and Robin being able to duel-guard to protect Shulk from an attack). I wouldn't even be surprised if they could take on an entire army of Mechon or Risen all by themselves.
...Dammit. Now I wish I could have Robin in Xenoblade and Shulk in Awakening.
I wonder what a competitive Shulk and Robin team would look like...
I agree with this. I sense that there will be an influx of Shulk and Robin fanart in the future... I see it...
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In short, we need a Fire Emblem/Xenoblade Chronicles crossover.
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Now that Shulk is out, ISAAC SHOULD BE ROCKING IN
I'M THROWING MY MONEY AT THE SCREEN AND NOTHING IS HAPPENING
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If this happened, I would die of happiness. I would love to see these two franchises cross over for just one game!
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The reason SMT x FE hasn't been seen in ages is because the game has gone through a massive overhaul and will now be..
SMT x FE x Xenoblade x Golden Sun
SMT x FE x Xenoblade x Golden Sun
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What would their S-Rank be.
What would their Morgan be like
What would their Morgan be like
Skyfox2000
War it never changes...
I've got to Stop Metal (face)
How many got my Reference?
How many got my Reference?
Bedoop
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Aaaand Metal-Boot to the Head.I've got to Stop Metal (face)
How many got my Reference?
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Having two characters with attacks that have a stronger effect from behind team up makes sense... hard to face both of us at the same time right?
Sabrewulf238
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Well I'm far more interested in their particular capabilities rather than the fact they wield swords.
I'm not a swordaholic.
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Interesting idea...
Have Robin use Nosferatu on an opponent, locking them in place, and then have Shulk use Back Slash wherever the opponents back is facing. Bonus points if Robin can use Nosferatu on the opponent from behind.
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Morgan would be blond. I'm not going to even try to come up with something for his Confessional.
[collapse=Xenoblade and Awakening Spoilers]I just realized that Morgan would have the blood of Zanza AND Grima... the most evil, godly blood.[/collapse]
*Robin uses Nosferatu*
Shulk: The enemy's weak, but don't drop your guards! Back Slash!
Robin: Now that's strategy!
Strider_Bond00J
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I'm... not really sure what you mean. The only character I'm supporting now is Ridley. Shulk was my Number 1 most wanted - Heck, even during the first hour of playing Xenoblade I wanted Shulk in Smash Bros!
(Also, British accent for the win) After Ridley, no other speculated or leaked newcomer except a new DK rep/Dark Pit really interest me that much. (Hate the idea of Duck Hunt Dog SO MUCH!! >
)I think adding Shulk is a great idea, one of the best ideas for a newcomer with lots of potential and from a brand new Nintendo series. I just hope he's here to stay in future Smash games.
EDIT: I only support Dr. Mario as I'm a little at odds with making a veteran an alternate like what Project M did. Also, were you confused by my signature? Those are just my Melee mains: Roy, Dr. Mario and Link.
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I'm now imagining Morgan, wielding the Monado, one shotting Grima. As in the actual Dragon Grima, not the vessel on the back of his neck.
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Well I am... my favorites from past games are Marth, Pit (viewing the bow as being able to split into twin swords), Roy, Link, and I'm hyped most for Robin, Lucina, and now Shulk too.I'm not a swordaholic.
samsparta21
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Why is there no icon yet.
icon yet.
Strider_Bond00J
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That needs to be fixed. Meta Knight already has his.Why is there no
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