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Heir to the Monado. Shulk General Discussion/Social Thread

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I could see him being a trophy, but that's probably because I don't know what he actually *does* in the game (aside from be cryptic and help Shulk with those flying things in Makna Forest).
 

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That would make zero sense. Shulk is NOT a big dude, he is noticeably smaller then the other male homs in your main party, in fact. His fighting style and the properties of the monado (and I'm not even talking about arts and things like special moves) wouldn't match at all.
Yet people were stupid enough to say that since Ike was being replaced, Shulk somehow would of been appropriate for reprising Ike's gameplay. Even though it doesn't make much sense considering the character Shulk is not a rugged fellow.
 

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Hey, I've wanted Shulk for a while, but I was trying to avoid this thread until I beat the game. Y'know. To avoid spoilers.

Anyway, just wanted to say I fully support Shulk for Smash 4! If we got Shulk as playable with a Melia Assist Trophy, I'd buy every copy of this game I could find.
 

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"I don’t like it when a tweet or whatever leads to needless speculation getting spread around. For example, when I tweet about playing some game, some people immediately get the idea that that character is in the new Smash Bros. Then people fan the flames on it, people start to think it’s really true, people get angry about it. Nobody benefits." -Masahiro Sakurai
 

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How about Alvis?
He's easily one of the most important characters in the game besides the main cast.
While Alvis may be the coolest and most super-incredibly-awesome character ever (he really is), I don't really know what he could do in Smash that other party members like Dunban couldn't do already.
 

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MASSIVE endgame spoilers.
He could end the entire bloody universe. Most OP Assist Trophy ever.
 
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I read somewhere in this thread that Dunban is OP. Can someone please explain this to me?

MASSIVE endgame spoilers.
He could end the entire bloody universe. Most OP Assist Trophy ever.
But... then there wouldn't be a match. :troll:
 

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"I don’t like it when a tweet or whatever leads to needless speculation getting spread around. For example, when I tweet about playing some game, some people immediately get the idea that that character is in the new Smash Bros. Then people fan the flames on it, people start to think it’s really true, people get angry about it. Nobody benefits." -Masahiro Sakurai
Funny how he said this, but still decided to tweet about the signature weapon of one of the most requested characters for Smash 4..... This dude's just begging for it. lol
 

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I read somewhere in this thread that Dunban is OP. Can someone please explain this to me?
The guy goes around fighting monsters and gods wearing nothing but his underwear, and nothing can stop him.
 
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The guy goes around fighting monsters and gods wearing nothing but his underwear, and nothing can stop him.
I see. So, he's pretty much broken if you equip the right skills that involve no armor? Is this even effective against Superbosses?

Funny how he said this, but still decided to tweet about the signature weapon of one of the most requested characters for Smash 4..... This dude's just begging for it. lol
Pretty much this. I bet that the same reaction would happen if Sakurai posted a pic of King K. Rool's krown or kape; posting something related to a highly requested character will only draw in a huge amount of speculation and reaction.
Heck, I'm still thinking that this pic helps Shulk even though he made that statement.
 

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I see. So, he's pretty much broken if you equip the right skills that involve no armor? Is this even effective against Superbosses?
He apparently (haven't done it myself) can apparently become a really damn solid dodge tank without armor, since he's got skills that increase aggro generation and... evasion, I think, when he has no armor.

I prefer using him for his ability to relatively quickly break and topple enemies. Oh, and Spirit Breath's haste/autoattack speed buff.
 

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Once I tried Dunban, I never went back to controlling Shulk. Dunban is just too awesome.
 

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I only use Shulk for Mechon fights, to be honest, because I don't trust the AI to use Enchant instead of Buster or something.
 

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By the way, the thing to remember with that tweet is that it due to having absolutely no relations to the development of Super Smash Bros., the only thing it shows is that Sakurai is familiar with Xenoblade Chronicles. That's pretty much it, the closest relation to Super Smash Bros. is that at least there is a sense of familiarity, which isn't anything special considering that with a crossover you need to know about many different IPs to begin with.
 
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Shulk was the character that I strictly used from beginning to end. I didn't even bother with anyone else on my first play through.
 

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By the way, the thing to remember with that tweet is that it due to having absolutely no relations to the development of Super Smash Bros., the only thing it shows is that Sakurai is familiar with Xenoblade Chronicles. That's pretty much it, the closest relation to Super Smash Bros. is that at least there is a sense of familiarity, which isn't anything special considering that with a crossover you need to know about many different IPs to begin with.
He's teasing the Shulk fanbase. Either that or he's just plain stupid. He can't just whine about people taking everything he posts on Twitter as Smash gospel and then tweet about the freaking Monado. That's just... I don't even... like what?! There's a ton of support for Shulk even among the Japanese. I'm sure he knew what he was doing.
 

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He's teasing the Shulk fanbase. Either that or he's just plain stupid. He can't just whine about people taking everything he posts on Twitter as Smash gospel and then tweet about the freaking Monado. That's just... I don't even... like what?! There's a ton of support for Shulk even among the Japanese. I'm sure he knew what he was doing.
He probably posted just for the sake of showing off. Not every tweet regards to Super Smash Bros., sometimes he posts whatever else he wants for more personal reasons. It's no different form how other directors spend their time on twitter posting about recent happenings and answering questions.

Besides, it's outright stated his twitter isn't going to be for Super Smash Bros. and has stated to not emphasize it.

Soraya also went through this crap, which caused her post to be deleted about an hour later. So it's not even him that's being the victim either.
 

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He's teasing the Shulk fanbase. Either that or he's just plain stupid. He can't just whine about people taking everything he posts on Twitter as Smash gospel and then tweet about the freaking Monado. That's just... I don't even... like what?! There's a ton of support for Shulk even among the Japanese. I'm sure he knew what he was doing.
What if he tweeted it just to say "hey look at this thing, it's pretty cool" just like what other normal people would do
 

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What if he tweeted it just to say "hey look at this thing, it's pretty cool" just like what other normal people would do
Yeah, I'd say that's what he was going for, but he's still the director of Smash Bros. he probably knows better than to just upload a pic of one of this game's most requested newcomer's signature weapon without being confident that he could add said character to the roster. Would your reaction be the same if he was admiring Palutena's staff? I'm not so sure. We already see people clamoring for a second KI rep simply because Sakurai worked on Uprising. This kind of stuff is par for the course, really.
 

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I see. So, he's pretty much broken if you equip the right skills that involve no armor? Is this even effective against Superbosses?
Basically, you get Dunban's skills that increase his agility when naked, you then get him the skill link for Melia's skill that increases all stats when no gems are equipped, get a few more good skill links (Reyn's HP one is a great one) and have him tank for you while you play as either Shulk or Melia in order to manually buff him against ether attacks. He basically breaks the game at that point.
 
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Yeah, I'd say that's what he was going for, but he's still the director of Smash Bros. he probably knows better than to just upload a pic of one of this game's most requested newcomer's signature weapon without being confident that he could add said character to the roster. Would your reaction be the same if he was admiring Palutena's staff? I'm not so sure. We already see people clamoring for a second KI rep simply because Sakurai worked on Uprising. This kind of stuff is par for the course, really.
I don't think that's a reasonable expectation. If Sakurai wants to post something unrelated to what he's working on, I don't believe that puts him at fault simply because we tend to be obessesive and overread absolutely everything, particularly when it's something he posted to his personal twitter account. It was a fun picture of something he saw, we are the ones who blew it up to be more then that.
 
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I don't think that Shulk needs a tweet or a leak to say that he is going to get in Smash or at the very least help his chances. I think that Shulk will get in on his own merits and there is a lot that he benefits from (worldwide demand, X's promotion, his uniqueness, etc.).

Both that tweet and the Gematsu leak are comforting things mind you, but I think that even without them, Shulk is one of the biggest contenders that could get added in Smash. There is a lot going for him.
 

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I see. So, he's pretty much broken if you equip the right skills that involve no armor? Is this even effective against Superbosses?
Basically, he draws a crap ton of aggro, but nothing can hit him. It's pretty great. Plus, there's also the encouragement of seeing Dunban in his underwear to add onto that. Regardless of sexual orientation, I imagine it would be pretty hard not to be attracted to him. XD

And I do believe that people are reading into that tweet way too much. At any rate, the tweet has no effect on his chances, it just shows us that Sakurai is aware of Xenoblade's existence.
 

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So, do you guys think discussing
Junks
as a potential stage is a spoiler? I kind of consider it one, but it seems minor enough that I'm not sure it warrants the tag.

Regardless, how would you guys like that stage to function? I could see it as combination of Lylat cruise and Halberd, in that the it has no (or very simple) platforms, but it flies you to different destinations and then lands briefly, or at least hovers in new areas that would effect the structure of the stage (and harzards such as telethia and mechons.)
 
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Reyn Time is too stronk guys. Take a look here... 221k damage in a single hit, ROFL.


Killed that level 99 mob in a single blow. XD
 

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Basically, he draws a crap ton of aggro, but nothing can hit him. It's pretty great. Plus, there's also the encouragement of seeing Dunban in his underwear to add onto that. Regardless of sexual orientation, I imagine it would be pretty hard not to be attracted to him. XD
And, let's not forget that he also looks like Jesus. lol
 

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I know nothing about Xenoblade. Could Riki make it in as a trophy at least? :D
It's debatable, but I'd say given Riki's almost mascot-y status and his popularity (in Japan especially) he's actually the most likely of Shulk's party to make AT status.
 

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It's debatable, but I'd say given Riki's almost mascot-y status and his popularity (in Japan especially) he's actually the most likely of Shulk's party to make AT status.
It's pretty safe to assume all seven playable characters would appear as trophies if Xenoblade Chronicles gets the full treatment.
Good. Hopefully it would be HD as well. I would like seeing that trophy...or Assist. Assist would be awesome.
 

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Shulk was the character that I strictly used from beginning to end. I didn't even bother with anyone else on my first play through.
There was only one battle I used anyone other than Shulk in, and for that I used Dunban.
 
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If Shulk is relegated to an AT, it just wouldn't look right. Think of the relationship between Monolith Soft and Nintendo, it's pretty clear they have a lot of respect for one another, and that they're extremely close. Monolith help assist EAD in developing major Nintendo titles, that speaks volumes of how integrated they are within the Nintendo infrastructure. I doubt a first-party developer like Monolith Soft, who were named "Nintendo's new first-party favourite" in ONM, are going to lose out. The company is going to be rep'd, and that character will be Shulk.

Who, in their right mind, greenlights a massive scale, open world RPG like X if not for the intent to capitalize and expand on the Xeno brand. People who don't think Shulk is likely can't see the forest for the trees, he just has too much going for him. It would also be a smart decision from a business perspective, one that Nintendo would only be gaining from. Not only is it exposure for Monolith Soft, it could also mean more sales for Nintendo. Monolith Soft/Takahashi is going to be making massive scale RPGs exclusively for Nintendo consoles from now and 'til forever so it just makes too much sense to rep them with a playable character.
 
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It's debatable, but I'd say given Riki's almost mascot-y status and his popularity (in Japan especially) he's actually the most likely of Shulk's party to make AT status.
How popular are the other Xenoblade characters?
If X is truly a Xenoblade sequel, then I expect the appearance of Nopon. They are the cute, mascot type characters similar in vain of Moogles in Final Fantasy.

I know nothing about Xenoblade. Could Riki make it in as a trophy at least? :D
He could work as an Assist Trophy. His RPG role is the debuff character. He could make monsters receive statuses like bleed, poison, burn, freeze, etc. I bet this can translate well into being an Assist Trophy in Smash.
If Xenoblade is fully represented, I bet the other major characters will get Trophies at least.

There was only one battle I used anyone other than Shulk in, and for that I used Dunban.
[collapse=Xenoblade spoilers!]I only played as Dunban when he had the Monado. After that, I strictly used Shulk.
I used Reyn when I was forced to after a certain moment.[/collapse]
 
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He could work as an Assist Trophy. His RPG role is the debuff character. He could make monsters receive statuses like bleed, poison, burn, freeze, etc. I bet this can translate well into being an Assist Trophy in Smash.
If Xenoblade is fully represented, I bet the other major characters will get Trophies at least.
Riki for SSB4 Assist Trophy!
 
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