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Heavyweight Pokemon please?

MikeyLombardi

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As any Smash fan knows, all of the playable pokemon in the game are lightweights. Why is that? Last time I checked on Pokemon the GB game, Mewtwo was about the same height and weight as a normal human being. You play as him in SSBM, and he can get KOed easily past 70% damage.

So all I want for Christmas is a playable pokemon that's a heavyweight. Who could it be?

Discuss....
 

MikeyLombardi

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Interesting thought. I had already thought of Blastoise being like a Water-type Bowser. I had a moves list and everything. That shouldn't be too hard to do. Some others I could see being hard to implement.

Then again, Captain Falcon was implemented in SSB N64, and he didn't have any attacks to begin with. All of his games are racing games.

Therefore, I know that Nintendo could find a moves list somewhere for anyone....
 

Toomai

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Last time I checked on Pokemon the GB game, Mewtwo was about the same height and weight as a normal human being.
Mewtwo in SSBM is the same weight as a human. It's just that the human happens to be Young Link. (Or Roy.)

But yeah, we do need at least one Pokedude that's above the halfway point of the weight scale. Can't think of one though...the problem is most Pokemon are smaller than humans.
 

Timotee

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6'7" and 269 Lbs. is a pretty big human. Poor mewtwo, if only he could turn off his psychic float, he would be harder to kill.
 

yoshi_fan

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Yes thats true.

Maybe Blaziken in SSBB (or the pokemon dude with fight skill) have better wight.

Of fighting pokemon, ALL of them can be in SSBM. I think Medicham, Blaziken or Machamp at the best. Machamp can be a DK dude, but Blaziken and Medicham can be like a Marth or C.falcon (gameplay style)
 

blaargh198

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I agree that there should be at least one heavyweight. Maybe Blaziken could do it.
BTW, shouldn't this be in the character discussion forum?
 

F8AL

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Yeah, heavyweights would be more harder to knock off and probably have slower, more powerful attacks like Bowser.
And yeah i think it should be in that forum.
 

Bowserlick

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Heracross would fit in perfectly. A fighting beetle. Two unrepresented types and a unique character. There is a lack of insects as playable characters anyways.
 

Bowserlick

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Heracross would fit in perfectly. A fighting beetle. Two unrepresented types and a unique character. There is a lack of insects as playable characters anyways.
 

FiErCe_oNi

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Dragonite would fit in perfectly. A flying dragon. Two unrepresented types and a unique character. There is a lack of dragons as playable characters anyways.
 

pass the syrup

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This thread is in the General Brawl discussion subject that sais anything Brawl related that isnt about characters. This thread should be in the Brawl Character Discussion subject. the mods are a bit jumpy.
 

shadenexus18

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Can you say Tyranitar? His type & element would be new to Brawl & he would be the perfect remedy for the lack of pokemon powerhouse's in Smash Brothers. His chances are a bit cloudy, but I can still see this.....well not clearly....

"This game's winner is: Tyranitar!"

I can dream can't I?
 

Wrath`

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Can you say Tyranitar? His type & element would be new to Brawl & he would be the perfect remedy for the lack of pokemon powerhouse's in Smash Brothers. His chances are a bit cloudy, but I can still see this.....well not clearly....

"This game's winner is: Tyranitar!"

I can dream can't I?
Yor my new favorite person for saying tyranitar.



Also what about aggaron.
 

Icy_Eagle

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I don't get it why they made mewtwo so light, he's 269 pounds (about 121 kilos). I mean, he floats with his psychic powers, not because he's full of air so that's no reason

Oh and of the pokemon I want sneasel most but I somehow doubt he'll make it into heavyveight
 

colombiangodman

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I think pokemon (except for Pikachu) as playable characters should be taken out of the game altogether. Why? Because they do not play a major role in any of the pokemon game series. If you notice, all playable characters have lead roles in the games Nintendo has made. Mario, Ness, Yoshi, Fox...they all carry importance in their games, while a pokemon out of 300 does not. Pokemon are not a big enough deal to be much of anything, at least for the super smash series.
 

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Actually, Mewtwo IS a very heavy Pokémon in the RPG games... So if they fix him, we have a heavy weight Pokémon. Sure don't expect him top be as heavy as lets say Bowser or Donkey Kong, but around Yoshi wieght will do...
 

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Feraligator is also a good powerhouse and would make a sweet addition to Brawl though his chances are so very, very, very, slim.
 

pass the syrup

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To many pokemon. Other characters deserve it a lot more. But if I was forced to pick, I would have to go with Aggron. He could be luigified from Bowser.
 

SSJ4Kazuki

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BLASTOISE!

General stats: Like a balanced bowser, heavy and strong but average speed.
Runs: About Samus speed.
Jumps: About Roy's height.
Falls: Like DK and Roy.
Weight: Between Link and Mario
Rolling distance: Between Zelda and Mario.
Crouch: Retracts into shell completely: About Young Link's duck height.
Based on THIS page: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=30064&highlight=statistics

B: Water gun (Like the Pokémon, but with less knockback) Still a great edgeguard.
Travels down like Shiek Needles when used in the air.

Side B: Skull Bash. Like Pikachu's, but slower, less range and more strength. It's also harder to hit through, so you can still hit through some attacks, unlike Pikachu. Less midair ending lag (but more ending lag on land) and slight lift/increase in height makes this useful for recovery.

Down B: Body slam, to hydro pump.
Will fall, or jump into the air then fall, like Bowser. The fall itself has low 45 degree knockback and 20% damage, but when he lands, water will spray up from the sides (Hydro pump) doing 5% damage and knocking opponents straight up with good K.O. power.

Up B: Mega punch/Uppercut: Will move forwards slightly (if instructed to do so) Then punch upwards while rising, for a recovery. 20% damage if you hit with the very beginning of the punch, 8% with the rest of it, 3% with the end.

A: Scratch
A A: Scratch, claw.

N air: Retracts into shell and spins around, bit like Bowser. 12% damage, little knockback,
but almost no lag when L cancelled makes it very easy to combo from.
B air: Punches behind him, 14% damage and good KO power.

F tilt: Punch, like Bowser but weaker. Horizontal knockback. 13% damage.
F air: Forward slash: 15% damage, 45 degree knockback. good edgeguard.
F smash: Focus punch, charge up then punch hard. 20-25% damage and 45 degree knockback. Much less laggy with full charge because the animation runs faster.

U tilt: Up slash, like Bowser's. 13%, good knockback.
U air: Same as up tilt, but with a bigger hitbox.
U smash: Water blast, like Mewtwo's Usmash, but slower and with water.
Hits 6 times. First 5 hits do 3% damage each, and the last one does 6.

D tilt: Tail whip, a bit like Fox/Falco's, but blastoise has a very short tail. Only 8% damage, but Good 45 degree knockback. Tail whip was always an almost useless Pokémon move.
D air: Stomps down with both feet, 15%, good spike.
D smash: Hydro Pump, crouches down, points cannons outward and spray water to the left and right at the same time. Good horizontal knockback, 15-20% damage.

Kirby hat: A shell with the 2 cannons for his B move.
Taunt: Faces screen and says "Blastoise" and makes a ^.^ face.
 

Micahc

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Sandslash, Scyther and Marrowak would all be great medium - heavy weights. Scyther would be kinda interesting, an Link with multiple jumps o.0
 

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I think Munchlax would be an appropriate heavyweight. It is listed as being 231 pounds and only 2 feet tall, which suggests a very heavy pokemon for being so short. Fighting him would be like trying to kick a log, only with the log grabbing your leg and tossing you off the stage. He's also small and cute, which is what most people associate with pokemon.
 

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Dragonite would be the perfect heavyweight pokemon. it even resembles a heavy weight in the games with its slowish speed and high attack+defence, as well as its large (but not too large) size and heavy weight. it would even have flying abilities to compensate for its speed.
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