Has Smash Bros. lost its Competative Edge?

[Ghettoman]

Just to comment, using someone's post count/join date to prove a point is the most ignorant thing you can do.

i'm so sorry i dont look at everyone post count and join date before i decide to take what they say seriously.

 

[Super Drybones]

Can we please close all these "ZOMFG BRAWLL HAS BEEN OUT 2 WEEKS HOW COME IT'S NOT AS DEEP AS MELEE" threads or at least combine the *****in into 1 ingored thread

 

[brawlpro]

At earlier pages why were people saying "This thread ended when he said he wanted melee 2.0?" And things like "a new engine keeps the game fresh?", well new characters, moves, stats, stages, options, and modes would have kept the game "fresh" other then taking out what was used in melee a lot (i.e. wdash, l-cancel)

 

[TheMagicalKuja]

Aside from online, that's pretty shallow...

The determining issue here is this:

AT's, intentional or not, are just as much a part of Smash as normal gameplay mechanics because at the end of the day, they are gameplay mechanics. Take them out and you're taking away from the depth of the game. Period. Sakurai has taken many of the important ones out of Smash when he made Brawl. If he didn't rebuild what he destroyed, Brawl isn't going to have the longevity that Melee and 64 had. The gimmicks don't mean anything.

And if that turns out to be true, it won't be the first game series it's happened to. People need to wake up to smell the roses and stop blindly denying the possibility that Brawl may not be fun long term. It's definitely a possibility, and people are setting themselves up for disappointment. Only time will tell.

Good god Hitzel the way you trash talk all of Brawl's extra modes makes you sound obnoxiously elitist. Think about other players who would appreciate trophies and stickers and stop BAAAAAAWWWWWing over the reduced technicality. Smash was not founded on its technical scene, and smash is not alive SOLELY because of its technical scene. Hell, unlike Mario Kart and Halo, Melee still has a very strong casual connection, and it will continue with Brawl for many years.

 

[goodkid]

No, Smash will stay competitive

 

[FREZ]

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think people were playing melee like this within the first month of its release.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YzB-iGwF8wU

People need to give Brawl some time to mold in the hands of the players

 

[brawlpro]

OC did not happen a month after melee was released.

 

[Ichida]

Let me bottom line it for the ignorants in the room. This is Brawl. No matter what mechanics have been changed, this is what Brawl is. If you wanna play, deal with the adjustment. If you're too uptight to adapt, go back to playing Melee.

 

[NOT Sliq]

There is a direct link between join date and post count and knowing WTF you are talking about, because most noobs don't know how to lurk.

I'm 100% positive that anyone with a 2008 join date knows absolutely nothing about Tournament Level Melee, and the application of Tournament Level Brawl.

 

[brawlpro]

Let me bottom line it for the ignorants in the room. This is Brawl. No matter what mechanics have been changed, this is what Brawl is. If you wanna play, deal with the adjustment. If you're too uptight to adapt, go back to playing Melee.

Everyone already knows this is what brawl is, we aren't blind. For me it seems as if in brawl a noob who wants to be as good as a winner of a certain tourney can become as good as him without much practice, which is pretty disturbing. I mean what kind of new strategies can make that big of a difference between how good someone could be in brawl?

 

[Nuvia]

he's stating brawl isn't going to be as competitive.

And that's funny, because there's absolutely no way he could know that.

 

[Ichida]

There is a direct link between join date and post count and knowing WTF you are talking about, because most noobs don't know how to lurk.

I'm 100% positive that anyone with a 2008 join date knows absolutely nothing about Tournament Level Melee, and the application of Tournament Level Brawl.

...

*looks at your post count and join date*

Yes, and you're such the expert.

 

[brawlpro]

And that's funny, because there's absolutely no way he could know that.

Who said he knew it as a fact?

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*looks at your post count and join date*

Yes, and you're such the expert.

FYI sliq has been in smashboards for a **** load of time, and he is a jiggly expert in melee.

 

[Nuvia]

There is a direct link between join date and post count and knowing WTF you are talking about, because most noobs don't know how to lurk..

That's what I like to call internet racism.

 

[NES n00b]

...

*looks at your post count and join date*

Yes, and you're such the expert.

He is Sliq who has a better join date and has actually placed in tournies.

See what I mean, you don't know as much as you thought. =\

Even a horrible n00b like me knows these things.

Edit: Don't beat me to ****, Brawlpro. I will time post match you where if I win I posted the info first. You just have to drive 5 hours to get where I am.

 

[Hydde]

Let me bottom line it for the ignorants in the room. This is Brawl. No matter what mechanics have been changed, this is what Brawl is. If you wanna play, deal with the adjustment. If you're too uptight to adapt, go back to playing Melee.

whae he said-.

Melee is the past now to tell you the truth... we dont know what brawl will give to us.. but melee is history.

It doesnt matter how many rants... nothing will change

 

[c4pt41n 0l1m4r]

Ok, first off you've only seen a bunch of noobs on the internet play the game. Second, even though they took out the old techniques, I ASSURE YOU, THERE WILL BE MORE TECHNIQUES. It didn't take a week to figure out wavedash.Also, there are already some kool techniques that are in brawl that are not in melee, like dashing shield, you can even turn around and jump, while keeping your full momentum, allowing a character with a good back aerial attack to strike. And the competitiveness will be there. (Also, that fox and falco glitch is crap, first off, only a few stages have this gigantic wall in the way, second, don't get caught in it.)

 

[Nuvia]

Who said he knew it as a fact?

Fact or not, I think his assumption has no basis.

 

[flyinfilipino]

...

*looks at your post count and join date*

Yes, and you're such the expert.

It's still ironically funny though.

 

[NES n00b]

It's still ironically funny though.

And it is still an alternate account to his banned one. >_>

I await the MM Brawlpro. lol, or was it a time post match? I already forgot. =(

 

[NOT Sliq]

SMASHBOARDS IS CRAZY!!!!!!

 

[NOT Sliq]

FYI sliq has been in smashboards for a **** load of time, and he is a jiggly expert in melee.

He is Sliq who has a better join date and has actually placed in tournies.

See what I mean, you don't know as much as you thought. =\

Even a horrible n00b like me knows these things.

Edit: Don't beat me to ****, Brawlpro. I will time post match you where if I win I posted the info first. You just have to drive 5 hours to get where I am.

What are you talking about? I'm clearly NOT Sliq *WINK*.

But I do know that Sliq guy placed 17th at Pound 3, which had over 240 people in attendance, losing in bracket to the people that placed 1st and 2nd.

 

[NES n00b]

It's still ironically funny though.

It is still an alternate account. . . . if the guy is even Sliq.

Spoiler

It is so IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL!

 

[brawlpro]

Edit: Don't beat me to ****, Brawlpro. I will time post match you where if I win I posted the info first. You just have to drive 5 hours to get where I am.

I'll always be 2 minutes faster.

 

[flyinfilipino]

It is still an alternate account. . . . if the guy is even Sliq.

Spoiler

It is so IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL!

You quoted me twice, so I must quote you.

What did he get banned for anyway?

 

[brawlpro]

He got banned for being sarcastic, why would you get banned for posting something like

I think Jigglypuff should be banned. I mean, come on, six jumps. SIX!? That's so broken, and if you can't see why it is broken, then you are obviously not as awesome as me and my long list of self fellatio.

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errhm, on topic, I hope to find new tech's in brawl, and falco is gonna go top tier, that glitch is like, being wobbeled, except without grabbing o_0

 

[flyinfilipino]

Sarcasm....is ban-able? That's terrible....

Er, on-topic (maybe): IMHO, As long as there's will to be competitive, Smash Bros. can be competitive.

 

[BentoBox]

If that statement of my opinion somehow proves that i am bad, than i guess i am.

By implying that KDJ will start losing to noobs because most adv.techs got taken away, you do sound terribly stupid indeed. SSBM fundamentally has never been about buttons-pressed-per-second ratios. It's about doing the most out of the tools that you possess. SSBB has its own share of adv.techs that we shall strive to master. Wake up.

 

[Mikezor]

This thread doesn't even deserve its two star ranking.