FF here. Back from V/LA. Wanna touch on a few things.
@ Chuckie:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11382357&postcount=172
I viewed Regal Cheese's post as an attempting to get smarboy to take a hard stance, or at least gauge exactly how strong thei stance was. They even explained that afterward. Furtermore they didn't really offer much comment insofar as the scumminess of smarboy's stance was concerned, only their dissappointment that they didn't take a harder stance.
How they are evaluating that action with regard to smarboy (and potentially whatever meta they might have related to tat hydra) is something they have not disclosed, and understandably so. This is something that you want to look for later on and look for consistency when the topic is raised again and they DO offer further comments.
So tell me, how exactly did Regal's post serve to "inject thoughts of uncertainty" or "stifle dicussion"? If anything, it was forcing to smarboy to BE CERTAIN AND CLEAR about their stance, and by virtue of focing this analysis, actually DEEPEN discussion. I really want to see some substantion from you regarding why you said these things.
Regarding Moriarity, I don't think anyone has actually taken a hard stance that Moriarity is useless. The term has been tossed around, but from what I understand of the stances of our active players, no one has actually seriously contended he is completely useless.
What has been contended is that his play is explicitly anti-town in nature. Don't try and argue that he isn't useless. That's easy to prove. How exactly is his play pro-town or helpful?
In fact this is a major point that I think everyone should think about. If Moriarity's play is protown, how so? By refusing to post in an explicative manner, but rather, a limited yes/no type response pattern, Moriarty will be unable to offer unique opinions with any kind of depth. This is a
severe limitation which will relegate Moriarty to piggyback status for the rest of the game. This is not something I'm comfortable with and is distinct anti-town.
More @ Chuckie:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11382485&postcount=174
How is Spag more "useless" than Moriarty. Substantiation please.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11382757&postcount=177
Stop trying to make it seem like being a liability is ok and not worthy of pressure just because it is possible that someone being a liability is town aligned. Also stop trying to associate the idea of being a liability with risky or unconventional play as if trying to imply that scum wouldn't want to play that way because it's "too obviously bad" or some form of that logic.
The way you asked for an explanation of "how being a liability is scummy" is blatantly loaded and lends to WIFOM discussion considering how you built up to it. Shame on you.
Being a liability is ALWAYS scummy because it's bad town play. Does not make it a guaranteed scum tell? No. But it's always scummy. There
is a difference you know.
Also the question we posed earlier regarding who you'd like to see talk who haven't interacted yet said, well, exactly that. We meant what we said. If we wanted to know who you just wanted to talk more, we would have asked that. So yeah, a clear answer for that would be nice.
Would like to hear from Spagheb and Peach Monster in particular about rcent trangressions. Really would love to hear from JPSI or his replacement very soon.
@ Moriarty do you absolutely refuse to play by conventional means (i.e. typing your own opinions and observations, not constructing them with pictures and quotes)?
. I did it mostly cuz I thought it'd be funny (which it was, quite frankly), and because it was so obvious what I was saying.
