Halloween Party Mafia ~ Over! Who drowned bobbing for apples? Who won Best Costume?

[Gova]

I tried to track Tandora. Action failed, so I was roleblocked agian or something interferred with my role.

 

[Asdioh]

I didn't do anything because I'm a backup, and apparently not a backup for Sang's role

 

[X1-12]

I concur with enormous HoS: Tandora

 

[Tandora]

I figure at least one of the females has to be scum, right?

I totally don't remember anybody's roles btw lol

I know JTB listed them all somewhere but that requires me to go back a page or scroll up or something pfff

Please tell me you're just joking with this post. =/

 

[Tandora]

I tried to track Tandora. Action failed, so I was roleblocked agian or something interferred with my role.

Do you think it's possible that July's JK roleblocked you as well as me since she transformed me?

It would make sense that you couldn't track me if she turned me into shoes or something, right?

Going V/LA for the rest of the day. Gotta work and then going to try to go to a concert in Cincy.

 

[Gova]

No.

10char

 

[Tandora]

I tried to track Tandora. Action failed, so I was roleblocked agian or something interferred with my role.

So, you and July both claim to have targeted me, but you also claim that your ability failed. Since I am the rolestopper and July claimed to be JK, how is this even possible?

 

[Vult Redux]

I got an Innocent on Smoth, I shot AA on the same night he was janned, and I protected Smoth last night.

My JTB vote was a tentative, ball-rolling vote.

I'll try to catch up tonight

 

[Gova]

So, you and July both claim to have targeted me, but you also claim that your ability failed. Since I am the rolestopper and July claimed to be JK, how is this even possible?

She jailed you and I got roleblocked. I know my action failed because that was what my result was. If I was successful in tracking you it would have told me if you didn't go anywhere or if you visited someone.

The only other possiblity is that July is a mafia/roleblocker and is lying about targeting you.

 

[Gova]

EBWOP: Also, I'm pretty sure July can only transform people she jails based on her post where she claimed.

 

[July]

Do you think it's possible that July's JK roleblocked you as well as me since she transformed me?

It would make sense that you couldn't track me if she turned me into shoes or something, right?

Going V/LA for the rest of the day. Gotta work and then going to try to go to a concert in Cincy.

I don't think tranfiguring you would make Gova's action fail. Since I transfigure people, they can't perform their actions (because they are an inanimate object) and certain actions can't be taken on them (you can't kill a pillow for example), but not all actions are deterred. Tracking would be one that doesn't make sense to be deterred because he can still track a pillow, its just not gonna go anywhere.

EBWOP: Also, I'm pretty sure July can only transform people she jails based on her post where she claimed.

Correct, transfiguring people aka turning them into inanimate objects is my way of jailing the person I target.


We haven't heard from JTB toDay, but I would like his thoughts on this as well.

 

[Tandora]

Got a wicked cold and not gonna on much until I recover from the meds knocking me out. Highly doubt I'm going to be able to focus enough to be reading backlog to figure out what the hell is going on. If anyone has any specific questions, I'll gladly attempt to answer them, but don't expect much more than that.

I really want to believe July is town and not some mastermind scum who managed to claim a mafia jailkeeper and get away with it. I don't like Gova's actions from yesterday or today. His ability "failing" on me just doesn't work out. We know he was neither roleblocked or rolestopped, so wth?

 

[Gova]

What... I just said I was roleblocked or something prevented me from tracking you.

 

[X1-12]

So are we just lynching Tandora then

 

[Vult Redux]

So are we just lynching Tandora then

There was still a kill. The only thing we know is that the Janitor DIDN'T submit it. Tandora being blocked doesn't mean anything.

You're exaggerating the significance of the jail a lot.

 

[X1-12]

And Janitors don't always have to send the kill to Jan it, look at Villains maf.

 

[Asdioh]

I haven't posted here in a while.

 

[Tandora]

What... I just said I was roleblocked or something prevented me from tracking you.

And I'm saying that's impossible, so you must be lying.

 

[Gova]

How is that impossible? July jailed you and I got roleblocked by a mafia roleblocker or something.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

JTB has been prodded.

 

[JTB]

I'm here, sorry nabe. Ill get to this after work

 

[X1-12]

@Mod: Is NAR used in this game?

 

[X1-12]

also I'm pretty sure I'm going to be voting Vult or Tan this evening

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Mod: Is NAR used in this game?

Yes. Other Notes; rule 6.

 

[X1-12]

@Mod: In the hypothetical where these four roles exist, could you state which order they would occur during the Night phase:

Bus Driver
Roleblocker
Rolestopper
Redirector

Sorry I just really suck at resolving NAR

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Roleblocker/Rolestopper correspond with Block, Bus Driver/Redirector correspond with Redirect, with Block > Redirect. If either of the slashed pairs (or similar roles) exist in tandem, then the individual roles would have hidden game-specific priorities to resolve resolution conflicts.

 

[X1-12]

hm that does mean either there's a third role-block like ability, or Gova is lying, or Tan is lying. I thought its possible redirection has messed with Night actions but it appears not.

Aside from my read on Tan I find it more likely that Tan is lying, if Gova thought he'd get caught out why wouldn't he just say targeted me or Smoth?

hrm

 

[Asdioh]

I agre e.

 

[Tandora]

hm that does mean either there's a third role-block like ability, or Gova is lying, or Tan is lying. I thought its possible redirection has messed with Night actions but it appears not.

Aside from my read on Tan I find it more likely that Tan is lying, if Gova thought he'd get caught out why wouldn't he just say targeted me or Smoth?

hrm

Because why would he openly target someone he knew had no visiting actions? He claimed to target me and then conveniently got nothing? It doesn't make sense.

He should have gotten a result of I stayed home since I was RB. It seems ways too unbalanced to me that there's another role that messes with actions at this point.

 

[Gova]

Wtf Tan? Do you know how to read? I've been saying my action failed IE I was roleblocked.

 

[X1-12]

Well if he caught me going out at Night and I claimed to have no actions that'd be real shifty wouldn't it.

Also why would Tan's role get a message saying it failed? Confirmation is nearly always only via results

 

[Tandora]

Wtf Tan? Do you know how to read? I've been saying my action failed IE I was roleblocked.

And I'm still saying you're lying. If July is JK and I'm rolestopper, who supposedly halted your actions? No one that's who!

 

[Gova]

The mafia roleblocker...

Also, rolestopper stops actions from being used on the person you target, it doesn't roleblock them so unless you rolestopped yourself I don't see why you keep bringing it up.

 

[JTB]

This is for reference.

Gova claims BP tracker, got role N4, tracked Gheb N4 and received the result that his target visited Gheb. Tracked X1 N5 and didn't received a result. Tracked Tandora N6 but was roleblocked.

If we are to take this as truth, it would mean scum has a bus driver and a roleblocker. I can confirm there is a roleblocker at the very least as I was roleblocked N3 (I think it was then)

Tandora claims Tonks, town rolestopper. Allowed to target a player once per game to stop actions from working on them. Targeted Vult N4, July N5, and Moth N6. Roleblocked N6 by July supposedly.

If we are to take this as truth, we know there is a roleblocker in the game. There's probably more I'm missing but I need to sleep within the next 10 minutes and I can't dig through the thread anymore than I am right now.

July claims McGonagall, Town Jailer. She targeted:

N1 - Sworddancer.
N2 - SangfroidWarrior
N3 - X1-12
N4 - Gheb
N5 - X1-12
N6 - Tandora

Not once did she jail the correct scum nor protected the correct player from the scum NK.

I'll come back to this toMorrow after reviewing what's happened more extensively, but we need to realize we are in mylo. I wouldn't be opposed to a NL, but that's only a last resort.

 

[July]

I'm still here, just still don't have a computer ;-;

Vote: Tandora

I still think that Tandora is the most suspicious in light of yesterDay's events, and I don't see any reason why Gova would lie about being roleblocked or how that would help him as scum. If anyone has a motion for a different lynch they need to make it now because the deadline is quickly approaching.

This is for reference.

Gova claims BP tracker, got role N4, tracked Gheb N4 and received the result that his target visited Gheb. Tracked X1 N5 and didn't received a result. Tracked Tandora N6 but was roleblocked.

If we are to take this as truth, it would mean scum has a bus driver and a roleblocker. I can confirm there is a roleblocker at the very least as I was roleblocked N3 (I think it was then)

Tandora claims Tonks, town rolestopper. Allowed to target a player once per game to stop actions from working on them. Targeted Vult N4, July N5, and Moth N6. Roleblocked N6 by July supposedly.

If we are to take this as truth, we know there is a roleblocker in the game. There's probably more I'm missing but I need to sleep within the next 10 minutes and I can't dig through the thread anymore than I am right now.

July claims McGonagall, Town Jailer. She targeted:

N1 - Sworddancer.
N2 - SangfroidWarrior
N3 - X1-12
N4 - Gheb
N5 - X1-12
N6 - Tandora

Not once did she jail the correct scum nor protected the correct player from the scum NK.

I'll come back to this toMorrow after reviewing what's happened more extensively, but we need to realize we are in mylo. I wouldn't be opposed to a NL, but that's only a last resort.

You say that bolded as if its easy to jail the correct scum or protect the correct player in a game of 18 people -_- I started off jailing people who were considered town by a lot of people but who I was still suspicious of, so if they were town at least they were safe and if they were scum that was one scum down and on a person difficult for me to read at that. Gheb was because I very much thought he was scum and that I would block the kill, X1 was to protect, and Tandora because I was naggingly suspicious of her after all the claims were out there despite a town read on her most of the game.

JTB, who do you suggest we lynch toDay?

 

[JTB]

Oh, that statement wasn't meant to be a jab at you, I worded it badly.

I haven't been able to read at all since my last post, ironically you posted during my break at work when I checked. So, unsujre who we should lynch right now.

 

[Tandora]

Guys, look at the facts for the love of god!

Fact - Gova has lurked all game.
Fact - Gova outright refused to name his targets until the last minute yesterday claiming he wanted to catch someone in a lie. Trackers should claim first so they can be confirmed by the people they tracked.
Fact - Gova's feet dragging to a large degree caused yesterday's NL.
Fact - We know X1 was JK the night before me. Gova supposed tracked both of us and got different results.
Fact - Gova claimed his actions after July and myself.
Fact - July and I both have "blocker" type roles. It would be extremely unbalanced to have yet another blocker role.

I like JTB's most recent post. Shows that he's thinking and looking at previous days instead of just reacting to the most recent night actions.

 

[Gova]

Guys, look at the facts for the love of god!

Fact - Gova has lurked all game.
Fact - Gova outright refused to name his targets until the last minute yesterday claiming he wanted to catch someone in a lie. Trackers should claim first so they can be confirmed by the people they tracked.
Fact - Gova's feet dragging to a large degree caused yesterday's NL.
Fact - We know X1 was JK the night before me. Gova supposed tracked both of us and got different results.
Fact - Gova claimed his actions after July and myself.
Fact - July and I both have "blocker" type roles. It would be extremely unbalanced to have yet another blocker role.

I like JTB's most recent post. Shows that he's thinking and looking at previous days instead of just reacting to the most recent night actions.

1. So? I lurk every game.
2. Opinion.
3. False, I was around at deadline but even I had voted anyone, a lynch wouldn't have occurred.
4. False, I got the same result which was basically says that I was unable to track my target last night.
5. So?
6. Opinion.

 

[Gova]

Also, how can you like JTB's most recent post. All of that is stuff we already know. He's just summarizing it in one post, also he's basically confirming that there is a roleblocker if he's town.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Votecount 7-1

5/8 to lynch.

Tandora [1]: July

Not voting: X1-12, Gova, JTB, Vult Redux, Asdioh, Shadow Moth, Tandora

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[collapse=Vote Log] X1-12
Gova
JTB
July > Tandora
Vult Redux
Asdioh
Shadow Moth
Tandora
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Deadline is October 13th at 12 p.m. Eastern.