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guys, i havea tornado solution!

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brinboy789

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its called...
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*drama*

SHEILD

:O

IT WORKS PEOPLE THE TORNADO DOES NOT **** THROUGH SHEILDS.
it does take away half of your sheild tho. so usei t, punish rinse, repeat.

from a MK mainer. i wud kno. people, stop johning about the tornado. i rarely use the move anyway
 

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omg noob we all no that and it doesn't stop it only certain attacks like Yoshi f-smash can stop it or falco laser
 

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omg noob we all no that and it doesn't stop it only certain attacks like Yoshi f-smash can stop it or falco laser
if we all know that then why is the MK ban people always mentioning the tornado? and why bother using yoshis fsmash when you can shield and punish later? dont call people noob if u don kno them:mad:
 

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wow your stupid yoshi kind of counters him do u even know the metagame? you just wanted to up your post for this useless thread please gimpy fish

*bowser fsmash* this thread
 

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So what happens if MK uses another tornado immediately after the first one has been shielded? and repeats that for the entire game?
 

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wow your stupid yoshi kind of counters him do u even know the metagame? you just wanted to up your post for this useless thread please gimpy fish

*bowser fsmash* this thread
yoshi king of counters him? are you serious, MK is like 70:30 yoshi. yoshi isnt even close t ocountering him. i just made this thread to help prevent MK being banned because the tornado is a major part of the *bann MK* group. so they cant complain about the tornado when all you have to do is shield. why dont you stfu if you dont like this thread then dont go on it
 

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So what happens if MK uses another tornado immediately after the first one has been shielded? and repeats that for the entire game?
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yoshi king of counters him? are you serious, MK is like 70:30 yoshi. yoshi isnt even close t ocountering him. i just made this thread to help prevent MK being banned because the tornado is a major part of the *bann MK* group. so they cant complain about the tornado when all you have to do is shield. why dont you stfu if you dont like this thread then dont go on it
omg don't double post and no one cares if you found out a way that doesn't work. no no no this is the matchup for yoshi and mk Meta-Knight - 4.5:5.5.
 

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if we all know that then why is the MK ban people always mentioning the tornado? and why bother using yoshis fsmash when you can shield and punish later? dont call people noob if u don kno them:mad:
Raged.

As long as you powershield or angle your shield, you won't get shieldstabbed by the tornado. Your shield will be quite depleted however.
 

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i said its around. and i checked its 60:40 noob. besides, yoshi recovery = crap and MK is king of gimping. idk why its just 60:40. and i double posted because i was responding to 2 statements.
no you didn't check the yoshi boards say Meta-Knight - 4.5:5.5 stop thinking you know anything you don't you just wanted to up your posts
 

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Raged.

As long as you powershield or angle your shield, you won't get shieldstabbed by the tornado. Your shield will be quite depleted however.
your shield will be approximately half depleted, however, in the time that MK falls, and you punish, your shield regenerates. and unless the MK SPAMS tornado, like no other move, just tornado, then your shield should just be fine
 

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yoshi king of counters him? are you serious, MK is like 70:30 yoshi. yoshi isnt even close t ocountering him
no no no this is the matchup for yoshi and mk Meta-Knight - 4.5:5.5.

Chaos is right...? My world has been shattered.

A full shield will always beat a full tornado. A good MK won't spend the entire tornado spinning on your shield, though, and will instead retreat while still in the tornado.
 

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your shield will be approximately half depleted, however, in the time that MK falls, and you punish, your shield regenerates. and unless the MK SPAMS tornado, like no other move, just tornado, then your shield should just be fine
i really don't think you know anything about mk to be honest
 

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Honestly, the nado is one of the best moves in the game. Deals good damage, comes out fast, difficult to DI out of, MK can travel at a decent speed, it stays out for a while, it CAN shield poke (not guranteed), and it's stupidly high priority. However, it does have some ending / landing lag, but if the MK player is smart that honestly isnt a problem. The reason why people complain about it so much is because it's hard to punish, if they shield it MK can just run away before the nado animation ends and most people cant punish him, it can be used to turn a bad situation into a good one, and if MK predicts that you're going to use pretty much any attack except for a few, he can just nado and he he wins. >_>. MK is broek and geh nado is geh. =)
 

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Chaos is right...? My world has been shattered.

A full shield will always beat a full tornado. A good MK won't spend the entire tornado spinning on your shield, though, and will instead retreat while still in the tornado.
yea, even if they retreat, its a tornado counter. and if they dont retreat, punish. win-win situation
 

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Honestly, the nado is one of the best moves in the game. Deals good damage, comes out fast, difficult to DI out of, MK can travel at a decent speed, it stays out for a while, it CAN shield poke (not guranteed), and it's stupidly high priority. However, it does have some ending / landing lag, but if the MK player is smart that honestly isnt a problem. The reason why people complain about it so much is because it's hard to punish, if they shield it MK can just run away before the nado animation ends and most people cant punish him, it can be used to turn a bad situation into a good one, and if MK predicts that you're going to use pretty much any attack except for a few, he can just nado and he he wins. >_>. MK is broek and geh nado is geh. =)
good point, except i dont get how a "smart" metaknight player can't get punished. tehre are 2 options after a shielded tornado.

1. retreat. stalemate. tornado is COUNTERED
2. tornado is fully shielded, and hen MK is falling. you cannot change that. and yes the tornado rises because if you actually want it to hit more then once, you haveto make it rise. and when hes falling, punish.

yes i know hes broken, but not broken enough to get banned
 

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sorry for the double post but you don't because why shield when mk can just spam nado
uhh...im talking about the victim of the tornado.

scenario: MK uses tornado. victim has 2 choices.
1. shield. punishable if they dont retreeat, and if they retreat, then its a stalemate
2. run away....i dont think so
 

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i just told you shield won't work try that on a good mk see what happens you'll get punished for it
oh WOW. it doesnt matter how "good" the MK player is, the tornado will not break through your shield unless the shield has been depleted from another attack. wanna try it yourself? go turn on your wii and do it
 

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oh WOW. it doesnt matter how "good" the MK player is, the tornado will not break through your shield unless the shield has been depleted from another attack. wanna try it yourself? go turn on your wii and do it
you don't understand do you? i know it doesn't break it but it drains it enough for mk to kill him since your shield is depleted almost all the way
 

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you don't understand do you? i know it doesn't break it but it drains it enough for mk to kill him since your shield is depleted almost all the way
i explained this TOO much times. your shield is only depleted halfway, unless it was used beforehand. the MK player has 2 choice. retreat, which will result in stalemate, or use tornado to drain the shield, thus leaving him VULNERABLE to punishment in the little (yes little but its htere) lag time after the tornado. and how does draining a shield allow MK to kill him?
 

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i explained this TOO much times. your shield is only depleted halfway, unless it was used beforehand. the MK player has 2 choice. retreat, which will result in stalemate, or use tornado to drain the shield, thus leaving him VULNERABLE to punishment in the little (yes little but its htere) lag time after the tornado. and how does draining a shield allow MK to kill him?
ok but with little shield left you won't be able to block his fast kill moves
 

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with the HALF shield left, and him either away from you by retreating or getting punished by you, i think you have time for your shield to regenerate
oh maybe but i just try not to get caught by metaknights tornado
 

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Well, you can quit playing Brawl because you're a scrubber ducky, or...

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Smart thread is smart.
OMG!!! I needs teh b00k!!!

Really though, above quote = seriousness of this topic.
 

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Well, you can quit playing Brawl because you're a scrubber ducky, or...

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Smart thread is smart.
orly? too late. i already own a copy of each. i got mine at half price off
 

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lol you really "can't" get caught in it...its kinda...hard if u kno what i mean :p. its like 3x the size of MK, draws in foes, priority is ridiculous. moves fast as hell...kinda hard not to get caught in it
yeah stop double posting. but im not scared of his tornado if anything i'll use shield or try to get away from it.
 

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Brinboy is playing dumb and acting as though there is only two options to everything, in an effort to win the argument. It's called a False Dilemma.
 

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Brinboy is playing dumb and acting as though there is only two options to everything, in an effort to win the argument. It's called a False Dilemma.
yeah he does play dumb from the way he explains his things
 

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good point, except i dont get how a "smart" metaknight player can't get punished. tehre are 2 options after a shielded tornado.

1. retreat. stalemate. tornado is COUNTERED
2. tornado is fully shielded, and hen MK is falling. you cannot change that. and yes the tornado rises because if you actually want it to hit more then once, you haveto make it rise. and when hes falling, punish.

yes i know hes broken, but not broken enough to get banned
1. Its mks choice to make it a stalemate, he can change a situation where hes in trouble to a neutral one, or a positive one if it shield pokes.

2. Why the hell would you make tornado rise to pressure a shield, which is on the ground? >_>
 
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