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guys, i havea tornado solution!

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brinboy789

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1. Its mks choice to make it a stalemate, he can change a situation where hes in trouble to a neutral one, or a positive one if it shield pokes.

2. Why the hell would you make tornado rise to pressure a shield, which is on the ground? >_>
1. the shield will not poke unless it is partially depleted from another attack. yea the tornado is usually a negative result to the victim right? so if you shield if, its a neutral result, which is much better then netagive

2. because, since the MK player wants the tornado to actually hit more then once, you have to make it rise. if you want to pressure a shield, tahts a different story. but who would use tornado when you have grab?

@ chaos and swastika: how am i playing dumb? tell me the other options
 

chaos_

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tell me how im playing dumb. sry for double posting idk how to put it all in one post
wow u play dumb because u think shield is the counter to tornado thats why and learn how to fit it all in one post
 

brinboy789

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wow u play dumb because u think shield is the counter to tornado thats why and learn how to fit it all in one post
oh psh im god i know everything

and ive explained it hundreds of times. shield IS a counter to the tornado. how is it not? i think YOUR the one playing dumb now. go john about MK elsewhere plz
 

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1. the shield will not poke unless it is partially depleted from another attack. yea the tornado is usually a negative result to the victim right? so if you shield if, its a neutral result, which is much better then netagive

2. because, since the MK player wants the tornado to actually hit more then once, you have to make it rise. if you want to pressure a shield, tahts a different story. but who would use tornado when you have grab?

@ chaos and swastika: how am i playing dumb? tell me the other options

1. Ummm, did you not read what I said? IT CAN TURN A BAD SITUATION INTO A NEUTRAL ONE FOR MK. That alone makes it really, realy good.

2.Uhhhh, if there stuck in the nado then the knockback is strong enough so they can't punish it. >_>. Wtf, you were the person who said SHIELD IF THEY USE NADO!!!!!1111!11. I'm telling you the sheild doesn't always work if the MK player has half a brain. Please learn your arguements before you respond to me, kthxbye.
 

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brinboy fails at life.


The real counter to a tornado:
another tornado. =P
 

Pearl Floatzel

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Lols at thread.

But yeah. Brinboy did not realize that you can make the tornado last longer but not rise if you tap "B" slowly. That is a small window to punish, but a good MK will retreat and try again. That is only countered by outprioritizing it. Or running.

And small note, by your definition of counter, the shield is a counter to everything except grabs.
My definition of counter is that it not only neutralizes a threat, but also turns the threat to a weakness. If you get 2 free lasers while playing Falco because of a Tornado, it's a counter. If they can try, fail, and then get away safely, it's just a defense. Not a counter.

Edit: Agrees with Sasuke about Brinboy.
 

brinboy789

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Lols at thread.

But yeah. Brinboy did not realize that you can make the tornado last longer but not rise if you tap "B" slowly. That is a small window to punish, but a good MK will retreat and try again. That is only countered by outprioritizing it. Or running.

And small note, by your definition of counter, the shield is a counter to everything except grabs.
My definition of counter is that it not only neutralizes a threat, but also turns the threat to a weakness. If you get 2 free lasers while playing Falco because of a Tornado, it's a counter. If they can try, fail, and then get away safely, it's just a defense. Not a counter.

Edit: Agrees with Sasuke about Brinboy.
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1. obviously you can make the tornado longer. how are you going to retreat after youre finished with the tornado? DI? sorry, not gonna work.

2. well then its a defense. people a johning about why the tornado is too good while they can just shield the whole thing.

and...u phail at life. you phail at smash for trying to ban MK
 

brinboy789

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guys let me sum this up. this is MY counter/defense/whatever you wanna call it solution to the tornado:

scenario: an MK user is approaching you with the tornado. OMG WHAT TO DO?
1. attempt to attack through it with attacks
2. shield it. IT WORKS
3. run away. i dont think so

so srsly, you HAVE options if the MK is tornadoing. however if ur in the air...good luck :p. the top of the tornado is the vulnerable spot. i rarely use the tornado anyway
 

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I like how alot of mk players are oblivious to that their character doesn't have a simple solution for evading any of his attacks.
 

Heroes_Never_Die

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Shielding isn't a counter. It's defense as Pearl Floatzel said. Returning to neutral isn't a counter. When Marth uses Counter successfully, he doesn't just block and stand there all "lowut?" He stops the attack AND attacks back. I can't believe I have to explain it like this.

Theres threads that list moves that can beat Nado. Please close this thread, it's full of stupidity (and it's not even funny).
 

chaos_

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oh psh im god i know everything

and ive explained it hundreds of times. shield IS a counter to the tornado. how is it not? i think YOUR the one playing dumb now. go john about MK elsewhere plz
wow your not god and once again shield isn't the counter
 

chaos_

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oh psh im god i know everything

and ive explained it hundreds of times. shield IS a counter to the tornado. how is it not? i think YOUR the one playing dumb now. go john about MK elsewhere plz
sorry for the double post but wtf john i think mk is bad imo not really but im not ever scared of mk and i didn't say one comet that was about john
 

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BRINBOY... STOP DOUBLE POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's a tip: If you're adressing two people do something like this:

@Chaos_: blahblahblah

@Megavitamins: blahblahblah
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On topic, stop being an idiot. Lets run through your idea of shileding being a counter:

MK tornados towards you. You shield. You lose part of your shield, and MK retreats. MK tornados again, you shield again. You lose more of your shield, and MK retreats. MK tornados again, you shield again. This process continues until your shield breaks, or until you get shield poked. Nado>>>>>>Shield.

Just to clarify, tho, I DON'T want MK to be banned. If he starts to win every single tournament, then we should ban him. But he doesn't. So we shouldn't.

(I FIT EVERYTHING INTO ONE POST. LEARN HOW.)
 

Crizthakidd

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shield is def not a counter lol only a sheild or a way to help neuturlize the situation
 
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