kouryuuXfighter
Smash Ace
P, Hyuga... sorry but you guys just wasted your time.
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good luckies WC on the 5th
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mikeHAZE
Smash Legend
kouryuu have you ever beaten a good sheik?
ProdigyKid
Smash Lord
Has he beaten anyone good?
kouryuuXfighter
Smash Ace
I've never played any good Sheik main in tournament... ever.
J.Shadows
Smash Champion
i wanna see the PBody play me in tournament shirts
HyugaRicdeau
Baller/Shot-caller
If you say so.
NeighborhoodP
Smash Hero
fyp
araknophobik
Smash Master
think harder
edit: in all honesty i don't remember beating you at ucla III, but its on record so it happened
araknophobik
Smash Master
kouryuuXfighter
Smash Ace
Azen's Lucario is a beast.
∫unk
Smash Master
Azen trips a lot...
Shmooguy
Smash Champion
I haven't ever been able to do it consistently enough to where I can rely on it. Sheik's dthrow actually has less hitstun than most people think, it's why atlus can rest out of it and hugo can up B at higher percents (+100%).
Lol of course I know about this, I'm just really bad at it. I just up B barely onto the stage so when they stand up they either push me onto the edge or they dsmash and send me back towards the stage. If I do it too high you can turn around and grab, but then I get my jump back and with DI I'll definitely make it back to the stage.
I do that all day, but if they're smart they'll jab after. They can move essentially at the same time you try to grab, so they can jab, roll away, dsmash again, etc. You really shouldn't be able to grab.
One Word: DOWNSMASH
Fair/Nair > jab > downsmash = plenty of shield pressure
I WD in, you jab, dsmash again and it goes through my shield.
Sheik doesn't have any moves like that lol
araknophobik
Smash Master
wtf you of all people should know (or should have learned from playing me)
if you dthrow peach
she will nair, which will out prioritize your fair/uair
as sheik after the dthrow i always like to wait for the nair and then respond with a tilt, unless the peach is at like 150% then you might get away with that dthrow uair...
NeighborhoodP
Smash Hero
dthrow uair works every time, you have to be near frame perfect (or maybe frame perfect). i don't do it all the time precisely because the timing is tricky and i haven't played enough peaches to learn it, but it's possible to do 100%, peach can't nair beforehand
kouryuuXfighter
Smash Ace
That's right, Downsmash does pressure a shield like mad but I almost never do it when my opponent is shielding simply because it usually gets me punished. Vs Sheik, I never dsmash after the Fair approach if Sheik shields because Sheik has a good shield and can punish me after blocking my Dsmash via WD out of shield to grab.
As far as jabbing goes after Dsmashing, I believe if you time your WD out of shield correctly, you can grab me before I can jab. It's all about not waiting too long for the animation of the Dsmash to end. Usually, if I Dsmash a shielding Sheik and I notice they waited to long in their shield, I will most likely throw out a jab for defensive measures and follow up accordingly.
Edit: Just a little tidbit for you Kira. If a Peach approaches with a Fair and follows up with a jab (assuming you were shielding), I believe you can jump out of shield. So if you know they are going to use Dsmash, jump out of shield and come down with a Fair to punish them. But be cautious of the percentage. If it's too low, they might be able to CC your Fair and follow up with another Dsmash.
NeighborhoodP
Smash Hero
why do you keep posting, you think peach can't shield pressure