Gokuzaru

[Ridley22]

Yes Gokuzaru is ugly and Enperuto (the penguin) is way cooler.
PENGUIN

 

[Silver Flame]

penguins>monkeys

and enperuto has water and flying moves which would both kill gokuzaru while he only has fighting since the water netrualizes steels weakness to fire

also off topic but
dialga's dragon/steel type makes him resistant to almost everything

 

[xianfeng]

monkeys>Penguins.

Find one Penguin cooler than Diddy I dare you

Pistols>Hammers

 

[Zombie Cola]

monkeys>Penguins.

Find one Penguin cooler than Diddy I dare you

Pistols>Hammers

The penguins in Mario 64, the one you race, the mom and the baby. SO much cooler than Diddy.

 

[100links]

your all wrong a 36 year old man who thinks hes a 4 year old fairy> monkeys penguins and such

 

[dotdotdot!]

monkeys>Penguins.

Find one Penguin cooler than Diddy I dare you

Pistols>Hammers

The penguins from March of the Penguins. They are hardcore.

 

[xianfeng]

The penguins in Mario 64, the one you race, the mom and the baby. SO much cooler than Diddy.

The easy penguin missions in my least favourite level of that game, no way are the cooler than Diddy.

The penguins from March of the Penguins. They are hardcore.

Is that a documentary

your all wrong a 36 year old man who thinks hes a 4 year old fairy> monkeys penguins and such

Crazy Joe from Shark Tale > a 36 year old man who thinks he's a 4 year old fairy.

 

[Zombie Cola]

The easy penguin missions in my least favourite level of that game, no way are the cooler than Diddy.


Is that a documentary


Crazy Joe from Shark Tale > a 36 year old man who thinks he's a 4 year old fairy.

Shark Tale?..... I hate you. I hate you so very, very much.

 

[100links]

Shark Tale?..... I hate you. I hate you so very, very much.

off topic:wtf IS shark tale?

on topic:i still think a flaming monkey whould be better than a flaming bird

 

[xianfeng]

Shark tale is a movie by dreamworks, I like it. It stars Katie Couric (Katie Current), Will Smith (Oscar), Renee Zelweger (sp?) (Angie), Angelina Jolie (Lola), Robert DeNiro (Don Lino), Jack Black (Lenny), Ziggy Marley (Ernie or Bernie) and Martin Scorscese (sp?) (Syks)

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Shark Tale is the Cars of Dreamworks animation

 

[SupaSmashBrotha]

Does that mean you think they're both terrible or they're both good b/c I think they are both great movies

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Does that mean you think they're both terrible or they're both good b/c I think they are both great movies

I think they're both just alright, but the worst films from their repective companies, especially when Sharktale has Shrek, Road to El Derado, Prince of Egypt has to compete with. Cars has Monsters Inc., The Incredibles, Finding Nemo, etc.

I'd take Cars over Sharktale tough.

EDIT: I forgot Madagascar. It's worse than Sharktale

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

Meh, I'd say Monsters Inc. was the worst from what I saw - but it was still pretty darn good (Pixar's just of that high a calibur) - Dreamworks... is just kinda meh all together...

Back on topic, the ONLY new Pokemon that really need to get in are Deoxys and/or Lucario... and maybe Mew as a speedy, lighweight Mewtwo clone... (which would be ironic, considering Mewtwo's SUPPOSED to be the clone of Mew...)

 

[Silver Flame]

Find one Penguin cooler than Diddy I dare you

the penguins from madagasgar and the penguins from happy feet(the new one comes out novemburr(no i did not make that up that was actually on the commerical) 17th with singing dancing penguins)

 

[dotdotdot!]

Is that a documentary

Yes. It is. It's about the journey of the Penguins of Antactica to breed. That walk about a thousand miles, have a baby, raise it, then walk back, all on a mostly empty stomach.

Hardcore.

 

[xianfeng]

Do you know what I don't get about Finding Nemo, it's set in Australia but the fish have American accents, they should have replaced the cast with all aussies for authenticity (but no one can do Dory better than Ellen DeGeneres), but it was still a great movie and Rove McManus cameod as the crab

 

[The_Corax_King]

they would both be horrible additions.... both are such hideous pokemon....

 

[Black/Light]

they would both be horrible additions.... both are such hideous pokemon....

. . . Wow, you bumped this 2 month old thread just to say that?

 

[The_Corax_King]

I saw the link on another thread....lol

didnt check to see how old it was...

 

[Pyr0]

NO! Munchlax eats ugly munky 4 breakfeast! its hes main source of fiber!

yup Munchlax fanboy is back.....

 

[The_Corax_King]

munchlax is a noob too...

 

[Silver Flame]

Blaizken can't even beat a grass pokemon.

I know this is old but it was bugging me so here goes

if you look at their stats, gokuzaru has weaker offensive stats and would do even worse than blaziken, also he has less hp, 1 more in defensive stats and is faster. basicly, blaziken is better

Pokedex entries, check them yourself
blazeiken
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/257.shtml
and gokuzaru
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/392.shtml
also, here is a type matchup so you can see which d/p starter gets the best edge
http://www.serebii.net/games/type.shtml
as well as their pokedex entries
enperuto
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/395.shtml
and dotaitos
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/389.shtml

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

so... who really cares about pokedex stats? it didnt really decide what got in. besides, the only major difference between blaze and goku are their offense vs. speed. every other stat difference isnt higher than 6 points. goku auctually has a larger overall amount of stat points. blaziken has 16 more attack. goky has 28 more speed. now what do people prefer? a slightly stronger character or a much faster character? its like marth vs roy (and we know who wins that battle).
besides, 1 reason this would be pretty cool is that this character is based off goku from DBZ, and we all know how popular that show is. dont we? he could even have a move set based on goky, like a chargable kamehameha made of fire.

 

[Black/Light]

372-337=/= 16
it = 35 points differance in attack
Atack- Blaze above by 35
S.P Attack- Blaze above by 13 points.

. . . . How did you get that that monkey would fight like Goku?

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

because its supposed to be based off him (heard it from somewhere or another). his name is GOKUzaru. see see a simularity anywhere?
for the stats, you're using the max stats. you're supposed to use the base stats fot his sort of stuff...
anyway, this could be a way to include a very popular anime character.

 

[dotdotdot!]

because its supposed to be based off him (heard it from somewhere or another). his name is GOKUzaru. see see a simularity anywhere?
for the stats, you're using the max stats. you're supposed to use the base stats fot his sort of stuff...
anyway, this could be a way to include a very popular anime character.

He's actually based on the Chinese myth that Goku is also based off of. So is Sonson, from that one Capcom game. So is Zidane from FF9 (very loosely). They all have the same source material, but arent "zomg DBZ clones!"

 

[Black/Light]

He's actually based on the Chinese myth that Goku is also based off of. So is Sonson, from that one Capcom game. So is Zidane from FF9 (very loosely). They all have the same source material, but arent "zomg DBZ clones!"

Just what I was about to say. . . .
And it's spelled Goukazaru. .
Its Japanese name is a combination of the words 業火(gouka, hell-fire) and 猿(saru, monkey). The pronunciation of zaru instead of the standard saru is a phonetic shift made when "saru" is used in a compound. The "gouka" and Goukazaru's distintive appearance may also be a reference toward Son Goku.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goukazaru
And I use max stats. . . .

 

[dotdotdot!]

Just what I was about to say. . . .
And it's spelled Goukazaru. .
Its Japanese name is a combination of the words 業火(gouka, hell-fire) and 猿(saru, monkey). The pronunciation of zaru instead of the standard saru is a phonetic shift made when "saru" is used in a compound. The "gouka" and Goukazaru's distintive appearance may also be a reference toward Son Goku.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goukazaru
And I use max stats. . . .

Thank you.

Also, I wonder if they'll change these guys names for the american release?

 

[Black/Light]

Im pretty sure they will, Blaze's Japanese name was Bursyamo.

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

yeah, i just checked the wiki article...
well, if you're gonna use max stats...
man i need a calculator... *searches computer for calculator progaram thingy*
HP_AT_DEF_SA_SD_SP__overall
Blaze
364 272 262 350 262 284 1794
Goku
356 337 265 337 265 346 1906
wow... Goku has 112 more stat points...

 

[Silver Flame]

Most people care about stats and I was saying that in response to that previous comment not as to who should get in. also i would perfer the stronger one to the fast one. gokuzaru is not a refernce to DBZ and if it is this thread should die ASAP for no DBZ is making it to brawl. if you look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goukazaru you will see that his name is a combination of the japanese words for hell-fire and monkey or a reference to the monkey king Son Goku. Since this is the japanese name for him and Goku is the english name for the DBZ character it is not possible that he is based off of him in any way. If you looked at his possible moves, you would see that such an attack as suggested does not exsit.

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

meh whatever... a kamehameha based move could be possible though... it would just be like a flamethrower+// fire blast coming from the hands.

 

[outofdashdwz]

Usability of the fire starters is debatable, as Goukazaru gets Scheme and Calm Mind, giving it extreme special sweeping potential, especially with Blaze. With 108 base speed, a decent movepool, and the ability to utilize STABbed attacks of both its types, I'm thinking this thing'll be pretty nice. But then again, Blaziken gets Agility, BPass, and a large arsenal of powerful physical attacks in D/P, including being able to actually use Blaze Kick now.

But like someone said, that has nothing to do with getting into Brawl. The only Pokemon with stat total of 300+ in Melee is Mewtwo. I can imagine either Blaziken or Goukazaru being in Brawl though, with similar attacks, at least graphically to Captain Falcon.

 

[Silver Flame]

if any one looked at the link to the type chart on serebii and compared the final forms of the starters you will see that a lot of things have changed in the normal fire, water, grass starter loop. if you look, you will see that enperuto comes out on top with the types.

back to blaze vs. worthless monkey.

since blaziken is already released he has a chance at getting in. gokuzaru hasn't even left japan yet. i feel that the original smash was the first gens chance to get in and meele was the second gens chance and brawl should be the third gens chance. for a forth gen to make it to brawl, he should have already been released on both sides of the pacific. this would include lucario, munchlax, mime jr., bonlsy, and weavile, possible even chatot since he will be released very soon

 

[Black/Light]

yeah, i just checked the wiki article...
well, if you're gonna use max stats...
man i need a calculator... *searches computer for calculator progaram thingy*
HP_AT_DEF_SA_SD_SP__overall
Blaze
364 272 262 350 262 284 1794
Goku
356 337 265 337 265 346 1906
wow... Goku has 112 more stat points...

look at the stats themselves.
Blaze
hp-364
At-372 (wtf are you talking about with 272?)
D-262
S.P. A-350
S.P. D-262
Speed-284
All- 1894
In max stats they are only 12 points apart (but thats just Max stats)

D and S.P D are only 2-3 above Blaz's (basicaly the same)
Speed is higher. . . .but speed aint everything.
Blaze's HP and Attack/ S.P Attack are higher.
Imo Blaziken (in the the pokemon games) would be the better choice to fight with. Her stats are better layed out (used) from what I can see (But thats just for pokemon so it's useless here).

 

[Silver Flame]

i thought something was wrong with your calculations firceoni, any ways I only brought this up to shoot down a comment that was bothering me by showing that if blaze couldn't beat a grass pokemon than neither could gokuzaru for offensivly he is weaker than blaze.

 

[FiErCe_oNi]

k whatever. 1 wrong digit... its not like i did it on purpose... anyway, sceptile auctually can take on fire pokemon quite easily (high attack+speed EQ) so goku would auctually stand a better chance against it in the game because of its speed, but whatever... jigglypuff cant stand up to any pokemon in the game anyway.

 

[commonyoshi]

>_< This thread makes my head hurt. Stats dont matter. They are characters in a video game and not your fantasy football picks.

As shallow of a reason "this species is cooler" sounds, it's pretty much the only important reason as to why a character would be in the game. Popularity is key.

PS: Puchama is the best of all the starters, then the grass turtle, then the monkey.

 

[Silver Flame]

that is so true and but stats do matter