Gokuzaru

[The Franchise]

I'm not sure with Gokuzaru. On the one hand, Blizakin was the orignal Fire/Fighting pokemon and Gokuzaru is copying him a bit even though he has different moves. Then again, every time I think of Blizakin, my brain screams out "Captain Falcon clone". At least, that wouldn't happen with the monkey.

Final Decision: He'd be alright if he got in but I rather hold out and hope for Enperuto. Mecha Penguin FTW!

 

[dotdotdot!]

Ah, you Water types are forgetting something. Fighting is super - effective against Steel. That penguin is screwed.

You are also forgetting something, Water totally pwns Fire. They are evenly matched.

 

[Zombie Cola]

Ok. . . .
Well, I said that style mixed with a lil thia boxing but still. Im very much sure I haven't even seen the real good moves of that style but it reps what Blaze would have (Long powerful legs with fast, long rang kicks that look amazing and complex. Yay for Brazilan slaves for making that style (^_^) ).

So yeah, it comes down to opinion in the end (like most fighting styles we all think of) but theres really no reason why she wouldn't fight like that. . . One of her sprites is even in the same pose the dude was in.

But for that congratulations I will. . . do my H/W (-_-). . .
Edit- Just got my hands on some good Capoeira vids http://youtube.com/watch?v=d3NLq372MYA . the comments help to understand it more and that guy who made this has more (just to anyone that wants to know what Capoeira is and why I think Blaze would fight like that)

How in the hell did a Japanese fire monkey learn Muay Thai?! That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.....

 

[Black/Light]

How in the hell did a Japanese fire monkey learn Muay Thai?! That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.....

1. You quoted the wrong thing.
2. This is just OPINION based solely on the Monkey's form (Like I said).
3. When the hell did it become a rule that every Japanese character has to fight in a trad Japanese fighting style?!?!? (Why doesn't Link fight like a samuria?!?!?)

 

[Silver Flame]

1)Enperuto is so much better as a starter than Gokuzaru
2)Blaziken is so much better than Gokuzaru as a fire pokemon and a fighting pokemon
3)The only 4th gen who have a chance are those who were released way early(lucario, munchlax)
4)Charizard(Fire,Flying)
Typhlosion(Fire)
Blaziken(Fire,Fighting)
Gokuzaru*copypaste*(Fire,Fighting)
5)Gokuzaru is just a ripoff of Blaziken
4)Blaziken has more chance to make it to Brawl than any of the other starters, he has more fan base and the starters who have more fan base won't work as well as Blaziken in brawl

 

[xianfeng]

1)Enperuto is so much better as a starter than Gokuzaru

opinion

2)Blaziken is so much better than Gokuzaru as a fire pokemon and a fighting pokemon

opinion

3)The only 4th gen who have a chance are those who were released way early(lucario, munchlax)

opinion

4)Charizard(Fire,Flying)
Typhlosion(Fire)
Blaziken(Fire,Fighting)
Gokuzaru*copypaste*(Fire,Fighting)

Pidgey (Normal, Flying)
Spearow (Normal, Flying)

5)Gokuzaru is just a ripoff of Blaziken

and using the same logic as you Spearow is a rip off of Pidgey

4)Blaziken has more chance to make it to Brawl than any of the other starters, he has more fan base and the starters who have more fan base won't work as well as Blaziken in brawl

Opinion.

1. Blaizken is more likely to be a clone than goukuzaru is because Blaizken's build is very similar to that of captain Falcons, Ganondorf and Captain Falcon are nothing alike but they managed to be clones. Goukuzaru's body structure is unique and not used by any other people in Brawl so he is far less likely to be a clone.
2. The 3rd generation of pokemon is largely considered the worst generation of pokemon and the sales were a lot lower than that of the previous 2 generations
1st gen: Pokemon Red / Red - 31.37 million
2nd Gen: Pokemon Gold / Silver - 23.10 million
3rd gen: Pokemon Ruby /Sapphire - 14.74 million
source:http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php
even the special versions of these games the 3rd gens sold worse
1st gen - Pokemon Yellow - 14.64 million
2nd gen - Pokemon Crystal - 6.39 million
3rd gen - Pokemon Emerald - 5.60 million
same source.

 

[Silver Flame]

fine, in my opinion Blaziken rulz and gokuzaru is one of the stupidest pokemon ever

 

[xianfeng]

and facts and numbers proove that the 3rd generation was unpopular, so therefore no one from the 3rd gen should be included just the sucsesful ones.

 

[Zombie Cola]

1. You quoted the wrong thing.
2. This is just OPINION based solely on the Monkey's form (Like I said).
3. When the hell did it become a rule that every Japanese character has to fight in a trad Japanese fighting style?!?!? (Why doesn't Link fight like a samuria?!?!?)

1. You're ********
2. You're ********
3. You're ********
4.Link is CLEARLY NOT JAPANESE AS HE'S MORE LIKE A FRIGGIN' ELF.

 

[Black/Light]

Wow. . . .your really good at making your point in a very grown up and detailed way. . .

And did I say he was Japanese? I said he was a JAPANESE CHARACTER as in made in JAPAN.
*jack a$$*

 

[Zombie Cola]

Lawl. You get all angry don't you. I just find it interesting that Pokemon that are found and raised in areas based on Japanese cities are magically born with the ability to use Muay Thai when Japan and Thailand are a few thousand miles away, and as far as the Pokemon series goes, you never stray more than a few miles from the original town.

 

[Black/Light]

Im not mad. . . did I call you ********? No, I said "jack a$$" because of your reply.

And you could also find it odd that they take idles for pokemon from areas not of Japan (Lucario- African god/ Weavil- Aztec regional look ect). So no, not everything has to be Japanese in the pokemon world.

 

[Zombie Cola]

That I can't disagree with. I think one of my main problems is that how often the new pokemon are moving toward more humanlike qualities. Btw, I really dig some of that art man, you have the muscle tone and the particle effects (smoke, dust etc) down really well. You ever done any Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan sketches? Reason I ask is I love to take rough sketches in pen or pencil and touch them up in photoshop, then run them through illustrator to colourize and ink them.

 

[Black/Light]

Yeah, I drew them when I was younger like years ago (1st gen) back when I drew nothing but pokemon. Those skechs are the only recents ones I has.

 

[kaid]

I think one of my main problems is that how often the new pokemon are moving toward more humanlike qualities.

Out of 493 Pokemon overall, there are 35 pokemon in the Humanshape Breeding Groop, plus Ditto, who's in EVERY breeding groop. Of that 35, 10 are new to Diamond/Pearl, 10 are Ruby/Sapphire, exactly 1 is Gold/Silver and the remaining 14 ALL date back to Red and Blue.

I wouldn't exactly call that a "humanlike trend."

 

[McFox]

I'd definitely go with the monkey, because Blaziken sucks. As for Diamond, I will pick the Penguin King Pokemon as my starter, but for Smash, it just wouldn't work, I don't think. I'd like a little energetic monkey fireball fighter, because that would be fun.

 

[Gerudo Warrior]

I don't think he will work in smash and if a pokemon gets in from this geraration its going to be Lucario.

 

[icymatt]

I don't think he will work in smash and if a pokemon gets in from this geraration its going to be Lucario.

Oh, very much so.

Still, we gotta find something else to talk about. Monkeys make the best topics.

 

[SupaSmashBrotha]

First of all Meowth>>>>all those suggestions, but if I had to choose one I'd go with the monkey b/c as DDK stated monkey=instant good character.

 

[Zombie Cola]

Out of 493 Pokemon overall, there are 35 pokemon in the Humanshape Breeding Groop, plus Ditto, who's in EVERY breeding groop. Of that 35, 10 are new to Diamond/Pearl, 10 are Ruby/Sapphire, exactly 1 is Gold/Silver and the remaining 14 ALL date back to Red and Blue.

I wouldn't exactly call that a "humanlike trend."

Hey, d-bag don't quote me on things I don't say. I never said "trend". I said "more human like qualities".... e.g. four limbs, two arms, with apparent apposable thumbs, and walking upright as their main means of transportation. It's an opinion. Get a life. You're like the living, breathing pokedex.

 

[kaid]

^you said "Moving toward". Trend is another word for that.

And don't worry, I had to look those numbers up.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Cmon people! Goukzaru needs some love!
He's no way worse then Blaziken, infact... This guy is almost superiour to Blaziken because of his speed. Blaziken is way to weak in defence and speed.

Also Goukzaru would no way be a clone of Blaziken. First of all, he can't learn Sky Uppercut even via breeding. Which is Blaziken's most used move. Blaze Kick he can learn, yeah but also via breeding. And why would the programmers of Smash Bros give Goukzaru Blaziken's special move? He has a own special move called Flare Drive!

And I dunno why every body seems to love the other two starters so much... But Goukzaru almost counters them in every single way. He's way faster than them and he can learn Thunderpunch... Even though he doesn't need Thunderpunch because a fighting move is super effective agains Enperuto. And the Grass guy... Flare Drive would do good agains that. ^^

 

[Kujirudo]

I do like Goukazaru, that's the reason why I will pick Hikozaru as the starter when I get Diamond. But no, I don't want him in Brawl... yet. First I wanna see him work in battle. I haven't actually played with him yet (although he already looks cool enough). And I think that Blaziken would be over this one since Blaziken is more known...

However, if Blaziken wouldn't exist, his chances would be good. He has a great appearance and he is Fire+Fighting wich gives a lot of move possibilities.

Ow yeah and Diddy, I love all the starters from this generation. That's probally the 1th time since the 1th generation.

EDIT: Ow yeah, if I had to choose between him and Lucario, I would go for Lucario.

 

[Black/Light]

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Also Goukzaru would no way be a clone of Blaziken. First of all, he can't learn Sky Uppercut even via breeding. Which is Blaziken's most used move. Blaze Kick he can learn, yeah but also via breeding. And why would the programmers of Smash Bros give Goukzaru Blaziken's special move? He has a own special move called Flare Drive!

Blaziken's stats are alil better than his. . . yeah, he has more speed but Blaze has more of the attack stats and HP.
And Blaziken has also gotten Flare Drive so it's not a sig attack.
Blazes HP/A/SP.A are higher than the monkey's well it's D/SP.D/ S are higher than hers (Speed is the only one of the 3 where he is WAY higher in, D/SP.D are like a few points higher).

 

[Diddy Kong]

Well yeah, perhaps Blaziken would win the fight between those two. Wasn't Goukzaru's Sp.Atk's higher then Blaziken's btw? Anyways, I still think Goukzaru would do better agains other Pokemon then Blaziken does. Blaziken's speed and defences are just too low...

But yeah, his chances for Brawl aren't high. He's a starter, he's less known then Blaziken... And the fact that he's a monkey also is a descrasing chance. I think it's safe to asume that Diddy Kong will be the first primate who joins the Smash Brothers. Goukzaru would look more like a Donkey Kong character then a Pokémon... Also there are posibilities that one of them ends up being a Luigified clone.

Yet Goukzaru is cool! He's my favorite Pokémon already. I would love to see him in Brawl, but his chances are very low.

 

[Black/Light]

^The monkey's D and SP.D are only 3-2 points higher so it's not much of a step up from Blaziken's. And Blaze's A/ SP.A and HP are all higher than his.

And like I said, Im not against him (because he is one coo starter) but Im not pulling for him.

 

[Zombie Cola]

Do you guys support these pics over Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan?

 

[Black/Light]

^^^Yes,I do support Blaze over them. Blaze seems more unique.

 

[icymatt]

I don't support any of them. There are only three Pokemon(IMO) that deserve to be in Brawl as playables: Meowth, Deoxys, and Lucario.

But when given a topic about monkeys, I can't say nothing related to said monkeys.

 

[dotdotdot!]

And I dunno why every body seems to love the other two starters so much... But Goukzaru almost counters them in every single way. He's way faster than them and he can learn Thunderpunch... Even though he doesn't need Thunderpunch because a fighting move is super effective agains Enperuto. And the Grass guy... Flare Drive would do good agains that. ^^

Cuz Penguins rock monkey's socks off in every way. And, as I said, steel may be weak vs. fight, but water is strong vs. Fire, and Emperortoh can learn Flying attacks (Strong Vs. Fighing)

 

[Zombie Cola]

Not to offend you pokefans but the pokemon pros and cons hierarchy doesn't apply in brawl. If that were the case then Jigglypuff should be incredibly weak compared to most all smash combatants. That is one rule that doesn't apply here, so why even argue over it?

Btw, penguins > monkeys.

 

[SupaSmashBrotha]

No way monkeys=funny animals that throw poo while penguins=featherless birds that die b/c of oil spills.

 

[Zombie Cola]

Yeah but Penguins CAN'T FLY. It's like the ultimate form of tirickery...or a big middle finger to the penguins...hmm....

 

[xianfeng]

Cuz Penguins rock monkey's socks off in every way.

Penguins may be cool but Diddy >> Dedede there I said it Monkeys are a million times cooler than Penguins

Goukuzaru would be a lot of fun and I love monkeys (in case you didnt know and bears, birds and squirrels) I am going to choose Hikozaru when I get Pearl or Diamond because I always choose the fire pokemon because I like fire. All starters should stick to a pokeball though.

 

[Silver Flame]

for those who don't know, penguins rule the world

and if pokemon types applyed on brawl then jiggy wouldn't be affected by shadow ball

 

[gnosis]

Out of the two, I'd pick the monkey any day. Because he looks cooler and I'd be more likely to play as him. And Blaziken is ugly . =(

 

[Silver Flame]

gokuzaru is ugly

 

[McFox]

There are only three Pokemon(IMO) that deserve to be in Brawl as playables: Meowth, Deoxys, and Lucario.

Yeah, Meowth could scratch stuff. ...and... uh... he could... he's got money, or something?

Yeah, that would make an awesome Smash character.

 

[zuloon]

gokuzaru is ugly

True that, man

 

[Silver Flame]

the only pokemon who should be in brawl are blaziken, lucario, deoxys, pikachu, jiggy, mewtwo, and munchlax (wouldn't hurt but i don't really want him in).