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thecatinthehat

thecatinthehat

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What do you use to capture? The video quality was amazing.

IDK what to say about you're Sonic though. Just watch vids of other Sonic's I guess. You had alot of better options in the situations you were in.
 
ROOOOY!

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I don't even need to watch your match. I know what help you need.

1. Eat Steak.
2. Go to the Thread Index Zone stickied thread and read up on everything you can there.
3. Watch videos of good Sonics like Boxob, Boxob, and
Boxob
4. Know Sonic's weaknesses (Aerial based opponents, Opponents that limit approach in some way)
5. Practise match-ups.

Then enjoy.

Sonic for steak tier.
 
thecatinthehat

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Try to fakeout your opponent more. Learn how to spin dash cancel. ASC leads into many options, so that's vital to learn.
The point is, try to use mindgames to lure your opponent into a position that's profitable for you. Then strike.

BTW, I was waiting for you to post that, RoOOOOOOOoy
 
Chis

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Spudman from Gamefaqs here?!

To spinshot charge VB then up on the Cstick I think.
 
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Also, when playing Link, bear in mind how garbage he is offstage.
Infact, we've done the Link match-up on our boards, go have a look at it in our match-up thread.

Also, learn to spinshot. It makes approaching people who projectile spam a lot easier.
 
Spudman

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oh I know how bad Link is off stage, my brother who is a glorified spammer is really bad once you get him off the stage. Crap recovery + not much he can do to prevent being gimped = ouch time.

is there any tutorial on Sonic ATs?
 
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Techinicaly, spinshotting is just a spindash cancelled by a jump. You just have to cancel it early enough to keep the forward momentum gained from the spindash.

If you wanna accomplish it with the side-b, charge it up a little, and immediately after you release the spinshot, input any button that would cause you to jump out of the spindash. (A,X,Y, or the c-stick.)

Down-b hasd the same process, except you don't need to charge, and it can't be done while grounded.

And when I say immediately after, I mean immediately after. Like a spiltsecond after.
 
Tenki

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Spudman said:
oh I know how bad Link is off stage, my brother who is a glorified spammer is really bad once you get him off the stage. Crap recovery + not much he can do to prevent being gimped = ouch time.

is there any tutorial on Sonic ATs?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QMRTsGfy0c
Probably the best video tutorial on Sonic that I've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsPU6nCm5iI&feature=related
One of the earlier Sonic tutorials.

Things of interest in this one: instant-edgehogging, stutter step, homing stall (lol), and spinshot ("spin jump" in the vid)
 
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When fighting Link, you need to remember he has more than a few projectiles and will spam them when given the chance. That being said, you need to be prepared to shield arrows, bombs, and boomarangs at will while approaching. If you're just standing while blocking his projectiles, you're getting nothing done from a far away distance. Other than that, spinshotting also works as well as the homing attack while he's spamming. Try not to get too predictable with the homing attack though.

You need to get better at punishing whiffed attacks by either grabbing or using a strong attack that sets up into a nice combo. (0:30)

Try not to waste your smashes when Link is at low percentages. The knockback is stronger from smashes, but combos can easily rack up more damage and could pressure people. (0:40)

Another punishable moment (0:50)

If you wanna follow up with a Spin Charge, I find it useful to hit them once, jump to hit them again, then follow up with an up-air or fair depending how heavy the character is. (1:00)

Links know Sonics like to use their up-B combo. Try to be one step ahead and wait for the link to use dair so you can use bair or fair. (1:16)

Nice! (1:31)

And sweet ending, btw. I also like your use of the dash attack. Next time try some fakeouts and ASC fakes and attacks.
 
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the link aint gr8. and u made some errors in there.. main things were :
1. Followed link out even tho he was easily going to die....and u copped an up b for ur trouble
2. u seem to be a little bit smash happy, or maybe evn just move happy lol, doin moves randomly, probably expectin him to run into u. i dunno, dint watch it from a very analysy viewpoint as i am on break. pretty solid sonic tho
 
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Spudman said:
I feel like I have a decent Sonic, but I know I'm missing probably a few big things with him. I heard about "spinshotting" but have no idea how to do it or what it is. Here's a match I did yesterday for you to observe so that you can help me accurately (hopefully)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x82W7XcLk0&fmt=18
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You need to use more moves outside smashes, you want to save those for kills/knocking your opponent off the stage, I recommand more grabs for this case, as the pummels are great for refreshing moves, andt he throws are great for set-ups

ROOOOY! said:
I don't even need to watch your match. I know what help you need.

1. Eat Steak.
2. Go to the Thread Index Zone stickied thread and read up on everything you can there.
3. Watch videos of good Sonics like Boxob, Boxob, and
Boxob
4. Know Sonic's weaknesses (Aerial based opponents, Opponents that limit approach in some way)
5. Practise match-ups.

Then enjoy.

Sonic for steak tier.
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YES!

memphischains said:
*normal memphis post*

ALSO CHECK OUT THE NEW SIGGY
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I like it!

darkNES386 said:
Grab more often instead of dash attacking. I don't think you used Spin Dash (forward-b) once in that whole match.
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He probably already mentioned it before me, but yeah just put grabs into your game, I didn't see one in that video, and not that that isn't alright, but it's something very good to use, like for example Uthrow at low %ages can lead into Uairs, and Bthrows at high %ages and at the ledge lead into kills.
 
Spudman

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yeah I do need to grab more... and I think my connection during that match caused me to do more smashes than I want to.

usually I try to approach with Nair to a Dtilt or Ftilt. Is that a decent way to approach? cause I have some success with it.
 
Tenki

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Spudman said:
yeah I do need to grab more... and I think my connection during that match caused me to do more smashes than I want to.

usually I try to approach with Nair to a Dtilt or Ftilt. Is that a decent way to approach? cause I have some success with it.
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Might get grabbed. F-tilt is usually somewhat good against shields though, because the 2nd hit tends to shield poke.
 
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You are doing pretty well. I know it says Smash noob, but trust me, thats the last thing I am. Sonic as we all knonw is revered for his speed. Use some quick running throws. Down-B is one of Sonic's best moves. Dont spam it, but use it often. Also sidestep some of Links Projectiles and his attacks, as they are easy to sidestep. After sidestepping use Down-Smash and its a guaranteed hit unless they dodge away from you.
Oh and defnitely use down smash sometimes. And dont forget the running Up-Smash neither. Practice some of these and you'll be up there with 3000, Hella, and me of course. YOU'RE TOO SLOW is just hilarious.
 
memphischains

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SonicMaster5 said:
You are doing pretty well. I know it says Smash noob, but trust me, thats the last thing I am. Sonic as we all knonw is revered for his speed. Use some quick running throws. Down-B is one of Sonic's best moves. Dont spam it, but use it often. Also sidestep some of Links Projectiles and his attacks, as they are easy to sidestep. After sidestepping use Down-Smash and its a guaranteed hit unless they dodge away from you.
Oh and defnitely use down smash sometimes. And dont forget the running Up-Smash neither. Practice some of these and you'll be up there with 3000, Hella, and me of course. YOU'RE TOO SLOW is just hilarious.
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How did I miss this gem?

Please stfu, go away, and never come back.
 
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