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I avoided taking a stance because I wanted what he said to be his own honest opinion un-tainted by me accusing him. Something you seemed to be doing, and I was kind enough to let you do it by complying.Right, because you thought he was scum right?
You avoided taking a stance saying you thought he was scum.... because you thought he was scum. And no, that was NOT what we were doing. We were pushing our scum read to say things, you were just passively saying that you were willing to vote for either Orbo OR this slot.
Uh, yeah: because I don't actually know for sure and it's LYLO. Something you're not even close to concerned about.And to clarify, since you don't seem to grasp what 'fense-sitty' refers to: You're making sure you have the ability to vote for either living player while avoiding calling either one anything with any certainty.
I don't know what scrumbling means, and you clearly still don't understand how my mind works. Funny is always the first thought.uh... huh. There's absolutely no indication that its supposed to be outlandish. None. Hell, you even have it right next to the one you're saying is your REAL opinion! With absolutely no distinction between the two!
AND you've based it off the fact that John said 'FUUUU' WHEN. HE.DIED.
Because you're scrumbling!
Brain-waves. Fun>not fun. Why is this a big deal for you? You really want to try to make a case about the fact I had a fun thought that explains why John died alone with no other deaths rather than immediately going to the obvious solution? They were in the same sentence Jupiter. At the time I was indeed wondering why there wasn't a second death if John was a vig. Mind straight to keyboard.Okay. Lets pretend you're town for a second.
Day 8 starts. The game is not over. You're town.
OF ****ING COURSE THERE IS SOMEONE ANTI-TOWN LEFT. BECAUSE WE'RE STILL PLAYING MAFIA! And yet, is this your first instinct? NOPE! Its your 'purposely outlandish' idea that maybe John shot YOU and your shot was reflected and killed him.
And for someone who couldn't explain John's death, you sure were quick to have a theory on how it happened and throw it out there. Because you CAN explain John's death. Because you shot him.
I didn't want Orbo to think I was waiting to vote him. Once again, I was unsure and wanted to see what he'd say if we just let him speak and whether it would incriminate him or not. I COULD have been persuaded to vote for either of you. But you've persuaded me to vote for you.Of COURSE. But the issue is not that you questioned him. Its that you never took a stance against him. You just hinted that maybe if you felt like it you could be persuaded to vote for Orbo...but also that you'd be down to vote for us.
Xonar had been theorizing up and down that plant = abduction. IT WAS A CORNERSTONE OF YOUR CASE AGAINST HIM. How can you just ignore that now?That is NOT what activity means, nor does it have ANY bearing on alignment. RR/Joey had a night action that apparently was one shot, and then they got a BP. And whoa, they were town! Not using a oneshot night action is not scummy, especially not when it looked like it was nothing but a voteblock until after the second time. And then no one was abducted after that (save for JTB, but obviously we weren't going to have him unplant someone we WERE GOING TO LYNCH).
Elaborate on 'Xonar was telling him what to do'. Because what the **** do we care. Xonar is dead, and Xonar was working his *** off to look as not-indy as he could. Which meant doing EVERYTHING he could to keep Orbo alive.
You're such a wise guy. Well here wise guy: I'm actually going to humor you and elaborate on why I had a scum read on Xonar. I'm glad you think that's impossible.Okay. Prove you had a scum read on Xonar. THAT is the important part of this. And show me how it was Xonar who pushed that lynch through.
Oh wait, you won't be able to. Here's what we see when we read that post: it just looks like a splash of buddying and trying to take credit for a bad guy death you had no part in, and there's not really much you can do to dissuade the notion.
Orbo said:"alright.
read, we waiting for any explanations or can we go ahead and vote?"
You post about Warlock and suddenly this is the play for the day both for you and Xonar. Not (directly from your own opinion) "super confirmed mafia stalker that makes your panties twist", but just some guy who is either warlock, or SUPER PR town. I come in literally as he's lynched going "warlock? Yeah that sounds important", then when I'm ready to post some more: the thread is locked. Ryu flips town, and later I die. I didn't get a chance to say anything.Xonar said:Shoot RedRuy today and tomorrow. Follow the plan.
inb4 you ignore everything I say in these new posts tooOH, right! Because of the case against you! The one that's showing you're scum, that you have no defense for.
Nope, not anymore since this is how it's going down. Orbo clearly isn't the one I should be focused on here. Feel free to change your sig to that regardless however.So if Orbo is scum, then I change my sig to that? Sure. But if he's town, I get to ghost write a post on your account. No edits or additions from you.
No, you really don't have a ton of reasons explaining your vote. You have lots of WORDS, but not many good reasons. You're been covering your ears every time I try to explain myself in the hopes Orbo just sheeps you.LOL. Right. Because we DON'T have a **** ton of reasons explaining our vote. Like every facet of it. This quote is so goddamn scummy it makes my skin crawl. You STILL aren't taking any stances, but you're also trying to paint us in a bad light and underhandedly pit Orbo and this slot against each other.
That's exactly the kind of attitude I'd expect from someone who can win no matter who dies as long as it isn't them. Precisely the reason I was willing to be reluctant in my voting until info arose. You were just ready to jump on me since you were already done buddying Orbo during the last day.I will not unvote. And you will die.
LOL. Are you ****ing serious. No, you're right. We're absolutely PANICKING and TERRIFIED by the might of the dead antitown guy. Because that is absolutely a trustworthy opinion.JDitz said:"That leaves Jupiter". I'm glad you're a strong enough player to go "aww ****" at that, panic, and try and turn it against me instead. But that's a totally rediculous reach.Xonar said:For the record, I don't think Orboknown is smart enough to no kill N5 and N6 just to remove any and all scum suspicion. That leaves Jupiter.
"Xonar must be lying mhmmm, better cover it up with head shaking .gifs and hope our Orbo buddying from yesterday is strong enough to cover it"
You have NIGHT ACTIONS on me? I'd love to hear this considering I have no active actions of any sort.The bit about "not even being concerned" about Orbo is pitiful as well. Yeah, I'm not ****ing concerned. BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM. WE HAVE YOU ON NIGHT ACTIONS THANKS TO XONAR'S SLIP. THAT POE ALONE LITERALLY ALMOST GUARANTEES THAT YOU ARE SCUM. DON'T LIKE IT? I DON'T ****ING CARE.
You know... except for all the other stuff I've said in regards to your accusations against me?Nothing about your play at any point since this Day has started showed you doing anything other than saying a lot of safe fluffy **** and taking a lot of safe, fluffy stances.
Clearly that wasn't the case.I think I'll refrain from answering that until I talk to GLife and probably until Orbo posts too (seriously it's Good Friday where is this kneegrow), but I do have an answer for you.
lmfao, don't even try that **** on me.
Night actions. As in, Xonar was insisting that he got his BP popped. And yet, he slipped that (say it with me!) THERE. WAS. NO. KILL. ON. NIGHT. SIX.
What are you not getting? Are you somehow that stupid that you just plain don't understand the implications of this? N6 is the night that Xonar claimed to've had his BP popped. He slipped that there was no kill (as in, Orboscum would've had to No Kill, meaning XONAR DIDN'T GET SHOT) on NIGHT. SIX.
Period.
No I get that now. I didn't before but I do now. The problem here is that the fact no night kills were attempted N5 and N6 doesn't clear you or Orbo. You can easily no kill, something Xonar thinks you're much more capable of doing than Orbo. I know I didn't actively shoot anyone, therefore it's the only solution left.So yeah. It's not a reach. It's ****ing solid, and it pointed right the **** at you.
And so we looked at you, and we hated everything we saw, and so we voted you. The end.
Pathetic.Clearly that wasn't the case.
Jesus christ, man. You're like a ****ing pinball the way you keep bouncing your stances all over the damn place.The alternative being that mafia doesn't have a night kill role left and John vig reflection, something you HATED me bringing up.
Quote when Xonar confirmed he didn't get alignments. I can't find it. And hell to the no are you or Orbo confirmed town.Xonar confirming he didn't get alignments happened. And the game STILL GOING happened. And Orbo being town happened. And US being town happened. And you being scummy happened.
I think you can answer that one lol:Flavor analysis? Really? In a game where the roles have been what they have been.
Also, what makes you so confident Jumbo is in this game?
What makes you think he isn't?WELL BECAUSE FLAVOR AND OTHER **** ARE THE ONLY THINGS I AM CAPABLE OF PROCESSING HE'S OBVIOUSLY SCUM BECAUSE DR. PARK WAS A PRO-GREEN GUY THAT OPPOSED AND HATED THE GIGABOTS AND STOLE COMMANDER STRYKER'S JOB
Hey do you like my JD impression?
NO IT ****ING ISN'T.The problem we have now is if you're town there's no way I could ever convince you that I'm town too. Therefore the best course of action I've got is to assume you're scum for pushing me and that Orbo will be town too and see that. (Yes, I STILL have doubts about who is who. Because I'll always have doubts. Hate me for it)
Bro: RED RYU FLIPPED NIKKI. The one you pushed to kill. *kerbonk*The answer I have is that I think Ryker was probably Nikki, since no one claimed Nikki despite her being a good guy. So there's that. And, really, what answer were you expecting? Either it is a scum role or it isn't. How would asking that question and any answer we could give have helped you hunt scum? How was it anything other than an incredibly leading question that was clearly trying to get Glyph or myself to think it is the case? "Hey guys do you think maybe it could be a safeclaim maybe?" Once again, avoiding scumhunting, waiting for the path of least resistance to open up and jumping on it.
No don't you see? If Orbo is scum: he wins either way as soon as one of us vote. You refused to take my vote down to discuss, so the best I can do now if he's town is allow him to decide between us in this scenario. The case for why you could be scum is out there already in the rebuttals.NO IT ****ING ISN'T.
This is just you being lazy and terrible scum. The best play is to ****ing find scum and then try to convince the townie of the other one's guilt. Which is WHAT GLYPH AND I ARE DOING.
You are admitting, flat the **** out, that you're only voting for Glyph and myself because it's your "only play". The "only thing" you can do. That is only the case for scum. It is the "only play" for SCUM to crossvote with someone that is making accusations despite conflicted reads, NOT town. Could you be more obvious?
Other than this part, I mean. I still can't accept this. Any flavor can be any role, in any game. Ever. Learn this early. Learn it well.For you: you'd have to have the power to give something out as mafia: therefore Jumbo makes the most sense. Get it now?