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Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?

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That and the fact that he decided to re-investigate our slot a second time, despite having a gameplan going in to today that literally accounted for a Ran town flip. Just HAPPENED to decide, you know what, maybe I'll take a look a JB again! Yeah I know I already did that once, but it just couldn't hurt to do again right WHOA OMG THEY SHOT ME!!!! Good thing I decided it wasn't worth looking into that person I was super sure was the last indy!
I thought it was game over because Orbo is/was last indy for sure >_>

I actually wrote a story about having gay sex with you to see what kind of fan mail I'd get. Figure my face when I got my results back.
 

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No homo btw, lol.

Like, the fact that Zonie is attacking the labels that GLife and I are very, very sarcastically attaching to the things he is claiming seriously tells you everything you need to know. It is blatantly clear that the scumminess we're pointing to resides in cluster**** of out-of-nowhere conclusive, black and white and condemning information that his role is suddenly able to obtain, in addition to the Secret BP that conveniently incriminates us for a nightkill that doesn't ****ing exist.
>_>

I interpreted them as serious labels.
 

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You knew exactly what I sent you as an image. Before we had so much as hinted as to what the image was.
You realize that the results aren't SET IN STONE, though, right? Consistency is up to the mod. Even then, like I said, it's part of the command. Not weird.



And for someone who didn't know they were BP, you sure know an awful lot about what triggers it. So what are you saying here Xonar? That there are times when you're NOT BP? If that's not the case, why phrase it like this?
Elaborated.


Oh hey that's super cool bro! But wait, you DID get information last night! You got the info that we gave you the image! In explicit detail! AND you claim to know for sure that it was US who shot you!
Elaborated.


What difference does it make? You've claimed an image and I can prove its true. But the thing is, you're not making up the image part. Just the shot.
Then stop pushing the image part. Scumpush. Shot is your word vs mine.


Xonar, would you like me to go dig up all your quotes in which you say 'Biceps is not indy or mafia. Biceps is town. I have never had a harder town read in my life.' Because I will (I just don't think I need to).

Not to forget that YOU were the one who put forth those plans in the first place! YOU were the one to say 'Xonar and Biceps need to go to endgame', and up until the Ran town flip, we were on board with that.
Fact is, my scum read from you is from rereading but MAINLY FROM NIGHT ACTIONS AND YOUR PLAY THIS DAY. YOU'VE SPENT ALL DAY PUTTING ME IN A BAD LIGHT BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BECAUSE YOU'RE A SCUM WHO SHOT ME.

The plans were perfectly well thought out, tbh. You+Me was the perfect endgame team ._.


Except this whole situation was engineered by YOU. YOU were the one who pushed a Biceps/Xonar endgame. (I feel like I'm having to repeat myself). And on top of that, WE DON'T HAVE A SHOT. AND EVEN IF THIS WERE CRAZYLAND AND WE DID, WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD IT MAKE?! This is LYLO! There's not going to BE another night phase in which we would be able to use our pretend shot! (spoiler irt the difference it would make, none at all and you're just looking for any and all points you can use against us. And hey, they all stem from your made up night actions).
True fact.
The shot usage is elaborated in calcs of why scumYou would create this situation.


For someone this worried about getting vined, you'd think they would have stuck to their silly posting.
Silly posting isn't as effective. I know I'm throwing myself out there, but if I do, I know that you are most likely to win. Which I think you deserve.



(good thing you clarified what it did beyond 'distracting you', otherwise it would make it look like a desperate attempt to make the thing we sent you look scummy)
Making it look scummy. Swell.


THATS IT. DONE. ****ERSSSSSSSS
 

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It's easily summed up.

Jupiter, you're scum.
You think I'm the indy because I popped my BP last night when you shot me, but I'm not.
There are a lot of flaws in your new read on me and I'll point them out.
This is literally the same point you've been making this whole time and the same point I've destroyed from multiple angles since my first post.

You know that Indy always have most endgame power, right? If you lynch me and Orbo is the true Indy, you're done for.
Yeah no ****, if we don't lynch the indy TOWN LOSES. Except WE HAVE A CASE ON WHY YOU'RE THE INDY. THE CASE THAT YOU STILL have not even attempted to respond to, and have opted to spend your time finding posts that don't prove jack ****.

The Indy at this point can literally lynch anyone. However, because you're scum, you have to lynch the Indy. Because I'm town, I've already lost the game. The only thing I can do now is run for second place, which I'll gladly do.
You realize how stupid this is right. We KNOW there's any indy left. The only 'evidence' you have pointing towards me and EE being mafia (...uh-huh) is your own made up BP/Self-Watcher status.

THE ONE THAT, AGAIN, ONLY SHOWED UP LAST NIGHT. FOR THE FIRST TIME.

Also, bull**** at your 'only thing I can do now is run for second place, which I'll gladly do'. There IS no second place in mafia, and you know that entirely. Your faction either wins, or it loses.

There are a few sides to it though. On one hand, I think you deserve this win and I'm willing to lynch Orbo with you. On the other hand, I don't like the disrespect you sent my way with that picture, but that's part of the game, so I'm willing to forgive you on this.
Holy **** you ARE desperate to get a lynch in. You don't even care who it is.

Yes, I know you can waltz through this by saying "Nope, I'm town", then appealing to Orbo who is Indy and lynch me. That is, if you believe I'm Indy. There's a reason you had this town read on me, and I'll wake you up from that weird-*** change you made. There's also a reason why you thought Orboknown was Indy, and I'll remind you of that too.
Did you miss the part where we had a post explaining this? I mean its a pretty big post, and it was like the ... what, 8th post of the day? After a string on you spewing everything you could possibly think of our your *** that might let you push our lynch.

I find it very doubtful that you changed reads because of a reread (and I can prove it), that means that you MUST have been the one to make the shot. There's no charade left. Who wins the game at this point is basically up to you. You can ask me to lynch Orbo with you, you can ask Orbo to lynch me with you. It depends on your read.
HOW. HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU POSSIBLY 'PROVE' THAT?!

Literally there is a POST already up. I have referenced it SEVERAL times in this post.

And **** NO, I am not going to lynch Orbo over you! Because you're indy, and Orbo is town!

Yes, there will be a big *** gigantium post coming up. No worries. Still skimming through. Still at page 43 after some quick-*** skimming. I'll even substantiate my scum read on you because I figured why not.
YEAH, just maybe toss that in there. It wouldn't have been important to ACTUALLY prove your accusations WHEN YOU FIRST MADE THEM. Nah, its much better to run around for hours and hours saying 'EH SHOOT MEH'. Something you've prettied up, but still never stopped doing.

Also, you've ignored any points we've brought up against you. Still. Despite being called out on it already.

Unvote though.
You're an absolute moron. You're going into Lylo, and then suddenly realizing you have a scum read on BOTH players alive! But poor ol Xonar, he just won't give up! He'll fight for SECOND PLACE, because its the noble thing to do!

You know, I realized, if I'm right, I have nobody to convince of Jupiter scum. Orbo can lynch anyone and Jupiter knows what's up himself.

The only thing I can do is convince Jupiter that Orbo is Indy. Damdamdam.


50.
(you're not fooling anyone, since if that were actually true you would have probably worried less about people seeing that you needed to convince me Orbo was indy and actually worked on doing it).

Page 64.

Stopped looking for Jupiter scum a long time ago. Too damn obvious. You are scum bro. That means that Orboknown is Indy by PoE. I'll post my findings of everything up to this day, then I'll reply to your pressure this day, then I'll see what's left.
Okay, you asked for it. Mr. 'too damn obvious'.

Jupiter is a town bro. Towntowntowntown. I literally have never had a town read this hard. Literally. That said, if there's anyone we are not going to lynch, it is Jupiter. Indy is... possible, I guess? His wrong targets mean nothing, by the way. Everything was pointing to the answers he was finding.

Would love a second opinion from Glyphmeister here.

Ranmaru's read on Jupiter, however, I disagree with, but that far from incriminates him, as I can see where he is coming from to some degree.

I honestly believe that this is the best course of action. I just can't see Jupiter being scum.

If you think Xonar and Jupiter are most likely town out of the player list, you should agree with the plan!
No but really, Jupiter can't be indy nor scum.
The entire town (except Orbo) expressed no intent to lynch me.

scumJTB > Ranmaru > indyOrbo
Yeah, you clearly had reservations about this slot coming into the Day. And it makes sense for you to have just happened to have investigated me.

Notes:

Skimmed the thread.

The basic idea of the theory is that Jupiter is scum. Orboknown is the indy.
That would make the scumteam consisting of JTB/Muscles (+JDietz maybe, doesn't really matter), with Ryker as traitor.
I haven't seen Jupiter handle Murderbush, but his handling of JTB is far from scum partners. Faaar from it. I think you can agree that Jupiter would've made JTB claim something else, especially with me in the game.
Considering EE singlehandedly derailed D5's lynch (the plan that you, once again, had set forth) and POINTED OUT AN ISSUE WITH JTB THAT RESULTED IN HIS LYNCH, I find it pretty hard to believe you're gunna find much of ****in anything on this.

OH, OH, OH!

OH MAN

AND THAT WOULD HAVE MEANT WE HAD 2 MAFIA ALIVE. OUT OF 5 PEOPLE. So tell me Xonar, why the **** would we damn our own scummate in Mylo when there was already a wagon we could have just hopped on and won?

That means that Muscles set JTB up to die with that claim to get an endgame ticket. That means that he intentionally didn't kill the other day. It makes sense. Let's run some numbers once again:
You can't just say things and then say 'that makes sense' after it. You have to EXPLAIN why it makes sense. In this instance, your point DOESN'T. Also, I'm deleting your dumb chart thing. It clutters the post and really is a way of something absolutely nothing in an extremely drawn out manner.

Interesting posts:

For the normal eye, this is but RVS shenanigans. For the actual scum team, this is a VERY CLEAR SIGN.
Old notes: Note that he also hinted at two factions. Subtle crumb to hint the mafia that he's a traitor. Directing it to EE, which looks innocent at first sight, but as EEscum, you see that it's ACTUALLY SERIOUS.



Hohohohoho.
In what world would Ryker, as traitor, build such a clear connection to his strongest scummate in his opening post? To the point that if either he flipped OR I flipped, it would completely damn the other one?

Oh right, in Ryker gambit land. The one where anyone with any semblance of common sense knows Ryker ALWAYS does **** like this in RVS. And the same one that knows Ryker likes to win mafia games, not make posts that would be 100% damning to his own faction in multiple situations.

...neither of those quotes are from us. Its Banana and Ran.

End of Day1.
Total points against Biceps: 1? (in the entire day, the only thing you've got is an RVS Ryker post. But you know what, sure, lets give it to you)
Total points against ...Banana?: 1
Total points against ...Ran?: 1

End of Day2. Noticed that Jupiter became active immediately after Bardull was basically dead already.
Oh man you've got me there! We were so super lurky and didn't show up until -

oh wait no, Bardull was not 'basically dead'. He was still very much alive, and fighting hard against Ryker's CC. In fact, D2 was the day I pushed the John/Plant thing for the first time. And was, well, pretty damn vocal about it. For quite a while before the Bardull lynch even was a possibility. And several other things.

http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=5143510&pp=25&page=10
Check for yourself.

Anyway. Let's keep trucking.
Lets!

At this point, the entire town suspects Jupiter. Ranmaru, JDietz, Red Ruy, Banana. All confirmed town.
//appeal to majority when there's nobody to convince
LOL. You say it like almost all of those people didn't say 'Actually I think Jupiter is town' right as they died. Instead, you tie the fact that they're confirmed town to a read they had 5 Days ago.


Damdamdam... Banana still fails to substantiate.
But here comes role elaboration:




word
Are you forgetting that we made a giant ****in case about how Kuz was pushing our lynch without reason? And then you're trying to push our lynch based solely off the fact that KUZ said it. No actual reasons. Just 'hey look, one time, Kuz said this guy was scum!'

This brings up the interesting possibility of JupiterIndy, but I still think it makes less sense in the bigger picture. (notelater: gaf JDietz armor en JDietz is mogelijk scum. belangrijk?)
Heh.


Ohhh man. Good point.
ARE YOU REALLY GUNNA CITE THE EYEPATCH THING AS A GOOD POINT

WHEN I HAVE LITERALLY SPENT LIKE 20 POSTS *****ING AND MOANING ABOUT HOW ****TY OF A POINT IT IS.

Also, again, Kuz has no SUPPORT for this read. And you're just pushing it 'because Kuz said so!'


Spoken like a true scum trying to prevent a mislynch for town points.
Or someone with a town read on him. Someone who had explained how he had a town read on him. Someone who wasn't just throwing out random reads to look good. (that someone is me btw)

Suspicion towards Orboknown.
Why the hell are you including these posts. You're not going to convince Orbo to vote himself based off of them, and you're not convincing me that he's indy because one time JD thought he might be.


TownOrbo on reread he said? Up until this post, you've held an anti-town read on Orbo. You still have it at this point. (http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14229329&postcount=1904)

There we go again with an anti town read on Orboknown.


He was planning on pushing Orbo (seen 2 posts later).
Those posts literally could not be looked at as 'having an anti-town read on Orbo'. It's 'Orbo did some stuff we didn't like, but lets not rush it just yet.'

HOLY ****, I'VE ALREADY ADDRESS THE CASE ON ME AND SHOWN WHY IT WAS ********! As for the Orbo case... what. Why should I care. I've done my read, I don't care what Gorf thinks at this point.

Overall, Jupiter has been pushing Gorf hard. Once again, a target that was already dead (and town, might I add).
WHAAAAAAAAT. We pushed a SCUMREAD!? One that we justified the reasons for in the post?!

Also, Gorf was FAR from dead. Kuz had just shown up and said that he was pulling his support for the lynch, and likely would have been successful at derailing it. Yeah they flipped town, but when people play scummy, they get lynched.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14246740&postcount=2004

This post once again shows how Jupiter had an anti town read on Orboknown.
Why didn't you actually quote some of these, afraid Orbo might actually click on them? Wanting Orbo's claim higher doesn't mean 'OMG ORBO IS SCUM'. It means Orbo is a question mark that we need to look at.

Stopped searching for Jupiterscum. It's obvious in the context of what he did before (repeated offending of semi sorta leading lynches but not really) and the night actions.
WOW. Because THAT makes sense in a case for a game, just give up after a while. And while the night actions remark has already been addressed a number of times (wow imagine that, a point Xonar's making has already been addressed!), the 'semi sorta leading lynches' part is actually something new! And completely WRONG! Support this point, because right now you've got no evidence for me to blow away like the rest of this post.

Orbo indy:
Background
No stances
Bad posting
Inactivity
etc
How are any of those things an indytell

Case on Orbo van JTB.
Are you going to do ANY actual thinking of your own, or are you just going to cite other people all game?

Typical case parroting for the lynch.
And yet, no one seems to give a **** about it. In fact

Vote: Detective

L-1
OH HEY, what's this?! The same 'case parroting' that you're calling Orbo out on! Following a damn good case isn't bad, but trying to pin someone based off of something you did the same damn thing of certainly is.


He's been focusing purely on the Indy thus far. Don't like.


ALL SORTS OF DISGUSTING THOUGHTS.
Do...Do I need to point at my first post today? The one where you do this same thing, but without being prompted and suddenly have odd revelations about the role that you couldn't have had without BEING said role?



Feels like just trying to keep his read strong. Viewing it from two sides to not be committed though. Eww.

This is still pretty raw. Not arsed to really edit it too much, it should speak for itself.
No, thats actually a pretty well founded explanation for a town read.


Thoughts:

If Orbo is indy and he had a BP then it was popped on Night 1 possibly. In this case, Orbo needs to vote Jupiter to not get endgamed because he has no BP.
There are some more situations in which Orboknown needs to vote Jupiter. Overall, if Orbo is indy and needs to secure a lynch, he will vote Glyph.
There are some situations in which he can lynch any of us, though. So no real read can be made from Orbo's voting behavior.

Jupiter on the other hand needs to lynch Indy to secure a win because he has no idea what Indy abilities are.

Now I'll get to this day itself.
Good ****ing god you are desperate for a lynch that's not you. And you're right, I DO need to lynch the indy. Because town loses if we don't lynch the indy. Because then the indy is last man standing. Like how are you not getting this.

Orbo I really hope you show up soon because I'm getting tired of addressing the same points over and over (namely, 'look at these night actions!' and now, 'look what this dead person said!')
 

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Gunna knock out the short easy ones first.

Alright because apparently I was unclear.

I reported on you. To report on people, I follow them a day, then I go home and write about it.
While I was following you, you shot me. Because I was following you, I saw you shoot me, and was able to avoid. I "never want to do that again in my life" which he added (your hidden bulletproof triggered, and you lost it).

I didn't get an image (and you admit that it was the correct one) but I was told that it was sharpied on the side because... well, it was explained. It's also part of the command, which is "Tell bomb: playername". They then get bombed with the word "TOLD".
That changes absolutely NOTHING. You've examined me in the past, but you didn't get any information that had to do with what I was doing at that night, and you certainly didn't get confirmation of who I was sending my image to.

Also, again, for someone who had a hidden bulletproof that they didn't know about, you sure were confident in saying what stipulations had to arise for it to work.

Goddamnit that matters not when it's such a specific bulletproof. Made for endgame, obviously.

Additionally, you REALLY need to substantiate your OrboTown read and I guess XonarScum better. I see no reason for you to 180 on both slots IN ENDGAME. That's REALLY convenient, especially when I was the first to make my move.
No, I actually don't. Its already been done. In the post you quoted a second ago.
 

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****ing kidding me? I was and still am pulling all my own weight. I'd almost want to blame this ESL bull****.

Look at the idea, not the words.
HA. 'Guys, just ignore that scummy part! The part where I slipped!'

No.

I thought it was game over because Orbo is/was last indy for sure >_>

I actually wrote a story about having gay sex with you to see what kind of fan mail I'd get. Figure my face when I got my results back.
That is the worst goddamn reason in the ****ing world. You already HAD an investigation on us. You DID NOT have one on Orbo. You thought Orbo was anti-town, so if you had investigated him YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CATCH HIM ON SOMETHING. But nope! Jupiter investigation. Not only that, but you use your power in a way that makes it totally useless (except it turns out your power actually morphs into something super good if someone is targeting you, and also you have a secret BP)
 

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Alright, so I can't convince you that Orboknown is the true indy.

Then what else is left to do is to convince Orboknown that you are the scum which needs to die for Orboknown to win this game. Easily enough I'll join any side of the tri-spectrum because I, frankly, have no way to win this anymore as town except if you get abducted and then shoot Orboknown before dying (read: no chance).

I'll respond as soon as Orboknown checks in and tells me responding has a slight amount of use. Because this is dumb, ridiculous and plain out stalling. And a stalling battle you'll win because Orbo came into this day with a town read on you.

Orbo, READ EVERY POST. And no, just because there are words below a quote doesn't mean the answer is satisfactory.
 

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Alright, so I can't convince you that Orboknown is the true indy.

Then what else is left to do is to convince Orboknown that you are the scum which needs to die for Orboknown to win this game. Easily enough I'll join any side of the tri-spectrum because I, frankly, have no way to win this anymore as town except if you get abducted and then shoot Orboknown before dying (read: no chance).

I'll respond as soon as Orboknown checks in and tells me responding has a slight amount of use. Because this is dumb, ridiculous and plain out stalling. And a stalling battle you'll win because Orbo came into this day with a town read on you.

Orbo, READ EVERY POST. And no, just because there are words below a quote doesn't mean the answer is satisfactory.
And then Xonar accidentally undid all of the posts he had made by asking Orbo to actually read them.

Also, I'd love to hear how us producing a constant stream of reasons you are the indy and are scrambling for any lynch that is not your own is 'stalling'. Seems to me like we're moving in a very specific direction, very quickly at that.
 

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Your posts w.r.t to are basically
hey dude i think this post has x intention
and then I say
no dude it has y intention

and then it's your word vs mine and you
1. are better with words
2. don't have english as second language
3. have a town read from Orbo
4. posts more words than me

I never undid anything and I applaud your ability to twist anything into anything at will.
 

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This is ****ing dumb.
Check the post above this out. Jupiter has been maintaining an OrboAntiTown read the ENTIRE FRICKING GAME just like A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE so I doubt there is ANY REASON AT ALL to change that, especially when he TRUSTS ME LIKE A BLOCK OF CEMENT. THERE IS NOTHING IN HELL THAT WOULD MAKE HIM CHANGE THIS READ EXCEPT IF HE POPPED MY BULLETPROOF WHICH OBVIOUSLY HINTS AT INDY which is a terrible thing in this situation.
First, no, we haven't. That's not to say we weren't pretty sure he was indy at one point, but its certainly not this rock solid read we've had all game.

Second, what the **** do we care what 'A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE' think. A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE thought Bardull was scum. A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE thought Inferno was scum. A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE thought Gorf was scum. A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE thought Detective was scum. That's why they all got LYNCHED. And guess what, those people were all WRONG.

Irt us changing our read, why the hell would we have gone into Lylo blindly when we thought the game would end with Ran, especially after that self-vote? And thank god we didn't, otherwise we wouldn't have caught YOU, champ!

And still don't have a shot, so 'popping your secret BP that only works when you're targeted' is a pretty hard reach.

Fair point, I guess? I can't defend from pressure on ****ing Gova when I'm not ****ing Gova.
Obtw if inactivity itself is scummy then I'd like to point you to Orboknown and what about Jupiter every time a lynch wasn't decided during the first few days.
Don't care, its still your slot. And being inactive is NOT the same as NEVER POSTING ONCE. And literally my slot has not been inactive this entire game. Sure we've had to like, sleep sometimes, but outside of that we've been pretty much one of the more active slots around.

I never built a very strong connection.
'I have never had a harder town read on anyone in my life'

What happened was a lot of agreement from both sides. You built as much connection to me as I did to you. This post can be returned immediately.
And no, no we didn't. Show me the multiple posts where we say 'wow Xonar is town. I can't believe how town Xonar is. Guys, you know who's town? Xonar is!'

Also, you were in sync with Gorf? Like this?
You really working hard at this, its adorable.

BUT STILL TOTALLY WRONG.

That post comes after, AFTER, the Gorf case. The one where I establish WHY we had a town read on him before, and then it gradually became a scum read.

Pleas to strong players? Don't ****ing kid with me. It's getting close to them? *****, if anything, if I want to get close to people with asking for a catch-up it's inexperienced players. Experienced players don't deduct reads from things like that, inexperienced players do.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14219191&postcount=1644

Read from this post onwards. I never plead for catch up besides asking Ryker/Raz (while Red Ruy answered eventually) and asking KuzKat for their town reads.
You literally confirm what I was saying in that last paragraph. Thanks I could help, bro!

Way to misconstruct!

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14249198&postcount=2104

I hardly read the game. THE GAME. Not the last few posts. I skimmed the last few posts and read them after that post. 3 minutes is enough to switch skimreads into solid reads.
So you haven't read the game, but you get 4 reads from a total of what, 4 posts? Made by like, a total of 3 players? In 3 minutes.

I am so tempted to repost my LaughingJake gif but I'll hold off.


Aahhhhhh what the hell, may as well do it anyway.



Uhm, it was a kinda obvious connection tbh. There was also no merit for an indy to claim it, I don't see how it gains someone town points.
Literally only the indy would have found it obvious. There was ZERO reason to think otherwise. Unless you'd like to walk me through exactly how you arrived at that conclusion on that Day?

Oorrrrrr I asked Ryker who played with Laundry on AiB?
Doesn't matter! You were still worried about SAFECLAIMS FOR SCUM. And the fact that you got an answer at all puts you in a pretty nasty situation, since Ryker wouldn't have given you information that could impact his bro's game in a million years.

No. Really. There was no abduct N1 and N3. It made perfect sense.
Except that post was made on D2. All of them were. There. Was. No. Reason.

See, this is pure twisty.
Putting information out there is scummy now? MAN, MAFIA SURE CHANGED A LOT THE LAST 2 SECONDS OF MY LIFE.
You're stupid. Putting the information out is FINE. Its the fact that you've connected the plant role and the abduction that's the part that's suspect here.

Like are you actually reading this or just skimming and acting indignant?

Let me try this too!

No one asked about that. He just said it. For no reason.
Well that answers that question.

No it is not. I really don't know how to answer it because you're providing self-evident evidence. It's phrasing and tone of someone who knows what the indy can do because it is. Feel me?
And then Xonar admitted to being the indy.

If anything, that's more something a scum would do because he needs indy gone ._.
Or the indy, working hard to look like he's not the indy.

This is a total misconstruction of how it went.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14252573&postcount=2237
Click that post, read all posts surrounding it. It was a fluid transitioning from both sides.
No, its not. We're not talking about the instant you join the game. We're talking about when you start actually buddying up to us. Which you most certainly DID do.

Yeah in that case a strong player is obviously what I want :glare:

No, I went with the people who WERE MOST TOWN TO THE ENTIRE TOWN. I LITERALLY HAD PERFECT REASONS. Such a scummy misconstruction.
IT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. You saw me and EE as someone who had you as a solid town read. A STRONG PLAYER. WITH A SOLID TOWN READ. What's NOT to like about having that person in endgame with you?! Well there's the whole part about your plan falling apart at the last second, but that's just an oversight on your part really.

As for your 'perfect reasons', they sure are perfect for an indy.

I don't need to convince people that you're scum per se, because it's quite the obvious conclusion. The thing I do need to convince you of is that I'm town, and this is part one of my defense. Going to keep going through the thread.
Dare I use LaughingJake a THIRD time?!

No, I don't. But this post totally merits it. You just say 'look, he's OBV scum!' Yet your case against me is:

-your made up, completely unbelievable night action that has magically changed since your claim
-'look at what other people have said'

And you're really wasting your breath. I'm not budging from this spot, since you're the indy. And I like to win mafia games.
 

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Isn't it a legit scumtell when EE wants to keep wall warring?

Pretty sure walls are anti town when not coupled with a nice summary.

So what about it?
 

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Goddamnit that matters not when it's such a specific bulletproof. Made for endgame, obviously.
Wow missed this little gem here. You just HAPPEN to have a secret facet in your role that makes you the ideal person to have in endgame. But you didn't know about it, so that's why you never spoke of it before.

You're obviously the hero endgame needs, not the one it deserves.
 

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These are all Glyph, EE's not even online champ.

And **** no I'm not going to summarize everything when each individual post has merit on its own. Each point in each post has merit.

And wow at you pushing the 'walls are anti-town' point against a hydra that has EE and Glyph in it.
 

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And wow at you pushing the 'walls are anti-town' point against a hydra that has EE and Glyph in it.
LOL fair enough.

But for real.

I'll wait for Orboknown. I certainly don't feel like timesinking with this game when he might as well come in and say "hey duders i want zonar dead" >_>
 

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orbo, read every post. And no, just because there are words below a quote doesn't mean the answer is satisfactory.
orbo read every post

isn't it a legit scumtell when ee wants to keep wall warring?

Pretty sure walls are anti town when not coupled with a nice summary.

So what about it?
orbo only read posts if there is a nice summary in it, otherwise its scummy
 

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Also, way to MISCONSTRUCT AGAIN. Nobel prize to you.

Summaries are a lot more profitable than walls, even YOU understand that.
 

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You're asking me to fight a wall war with you when I'm clearly inferior to you in terms of language (which is a pretty darn important aspect especially in walls).

And you're saying I'm desperate to lynch?
 

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Why the hell are you trying to make this into a language john.

And yeah, you are. You were the one who was willing to make peace with mean ol' Jupiter's Biceps, because he deserved to win! So you would selflessly vote Orbo, giving him the win.

But just saying, you were also very willing to vote this slot. As you did twice now.
 

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Yeah, bro, you've seen my PoV, so that should make sense.

Can you remind me how a townie can win in a 1v1v1 situation? Oh, right, he can't.
 

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I'd also like to tell you that if I was indy
then I have a 1 shot BP
and I only abduct

meaning that if you are mafia and I am indy
then there's no way I'd go for Orboknown.

Just saying. Mafia.

Keep lying about your shot, see if I care. It's your word vs mine, and you better give me some real damn good reasons for me to make up being shot last night.
 

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Remind me how you know its 1v1v1. Oh right, because you're a secret BP who also gets tracker results but only in certain situations
 

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Vote: Jupiter's Muscles

That should be hammer.

Even then.
I'm not getting tracker results, it's simply that my BP is limited to the person I'm following. SO I KNOW YOU WERE THE ONE WHO SHOT.
 

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And if you're going to twist that vote into being scummy I'll laugh square in your face.

As if you wouldn't do the same with me.
 

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Of course I would, you're the ****ing indy.

And of course its scummy for you to HAMMER there, since as town you'd lose either way.

I cannot believe this game is going to end on something as ****ty as a modvote especially when I had you so pinned that it hurt.
 
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