Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I seriously want to stomp on your face.

 

[Orboknown]

Of course you lynch indy last when he has two scum abducted (Ryker and JDietz) who could both **** with us greatly.
Especially with people like you around.

The fact that you are too incompetent to gain a proper read on me doesn't mean others are.
All I've been doing is throwing numbers and get reports?
And then when someone raises the point that I've caught scum it's because "indy has to scumhunt too"?
Soooo you mean that Indy does everything town is supposed to do? Would be goddamn impossible to catch indy then.
No, indy avoids lynches and night kills. Something you've been doing by staying on the background, until there is no choice, which is right now, and then you're suddenly awfully active. I've basically been a night kill magnet, not to mention, I've had enough people turn on me for a lynch.
What doesn't add up to you?

it's process of elimination that put me on you. I'm a newb at mafia, doesn't mean I can't be right about things.
indy is supposed to look like town.
I haven't been staying in the background by choice, I just don't have as much ****ing internet time as all of you do. I can be online and active now because I'm between classes with time to be online.

*sigh* i need to not get worked up. ran's flip will help decide the game, as you and jupiter are already convinced to lynch me if he is town.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

It's not that you're wrong, it's just that your PoE is based on a disgusting double standard without rhyme nor reason.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Wait that does mean you're wrong.

Yeah.

Alright I'm going to quit mafia for today.

 

[ranmaru]

Indy is supposed to be town enuff to not get lynched, and dumb/summy enuff to not get nk'd.

Basically he has to survive

 

[Orboknown]

You don't even read posts

I read all the posts. JD got a laser pointer out of nowhere? JTB got that collar out of nowhere? ran got a gas out of nowhere? I don't believe that.

 

[ranmaru]

It makses sense orbo. My gas did nothing

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Part 2: Jupiter's Role

Jupiter, I'm sorry to say this buddy, but your role is a red herring.
The fact is, the Stinky Butt did nothing. The laser eyepatch did nothing. The collar does nothing. Hell, even the laser did nothing.

Short part is short.

10characterdodge

 

[Orboknown]

ok, lets say the laser did nothing. that means john didn't spin a night kill at ryker, he is a scummy returning after the abductor dies and ryker's hydra was town that night killed right?

 

[ranmaru]

Oddly enuff... Jtb was a hated mafia, meaning je was traitor. So he prolly killed mueder for town cred

 

[ranmaru]

Jtb not je

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Looked back at the night actions.

Of course you lynch indy last when he has two scum abducted (Ryker and JDietz) who could both **** with us greatly.

That's wrong. Indy got John.

But abduction seems to be the lowest on the NAR list.
See: JDietz pointing the laser. John shooting Ryker.

ok, lets say the laser did nothing. that means john didn't spin a night kill at ryker, he is a scummy returning after the abductor dies and ryker's hydra was town that night killed right?

this is incoherent.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

And yeah John was possibly mafia because I've never seen a mafia janitor that works with a town vig kill.

Except if anyone has different experiences?

 

[Orboknown]

oh yea, he claimed the ryker kill then. my bad.

i was talking about john getting the laser eye patch and using that to reflect a NK from ryker, or however that works. my bad.

 

[ranmaru]

Like I said. I think jtb was a traitor so je prolly killed mafia to fakeclaim as vig

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

So ****ing confusing.

All I know is that I'm voting Orboknown tomorrow. Peace out bromos.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

And Glyph I see you viewing, entertain these people with some words for me.

 

[ranmaru]

Peace. Post that pic again

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Nothing much to say at this point without Ran's flip. And hell, even after that our actions for tomorrow are pretty well mapped out.

Orbo, seriously, just tell us the truth. This game has gone on for a freaking long time already, and you're dead in the water. May as well come clean now.

 

[Orboknown]

Like I said. I think jtb was a traitor so je prolly killed mafia to fakeclaim as vig
he flipped mafia hated janitor didn't he? i don't remember seeing traitor.

Orbo, seriously, just tell us the truth. This game has gone on for a freaking long time already, and you're dead in the water. May as well come clean now.

I've told you the truth. I'm a town deevolutionary ray, one shot to kill off mutations.
II even character claimed, so I'm completely on the table.

 

[Orboknown]

fixed.

Like I said. I think jtb was a traitor so je prolly killed mafia to fakeclaim as vig

he flipped mafia hated janitor didn't he? i don't remember seeing traitor.

 

[Orboknown]

JTB, Mafia Hated Jan was lynched!

yea not a traitor. Unless im misconstruing hated as meaning takes one less vote to lynch, which was the case here where he got lynched with only two votes.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

All the reason I need to know you gotta die. More likely than not, you know you're caught.

Assuming this is not the end of the game, we lynch Orbo toMorrow and move on with our lives.

Xonar, I'm ready to hammer right now. Dragging this day out just means more chances for someone to trip the plant, and an abduction at this point is the last thing I want to deal with. If someone's been vined, it doesn't hurt us at all since their vote simply won't count and the lynch won't have gone through. As for the result, its almost certainly just a mod error on Laundry's part I guess. If not, well, I can't think of a situation in which it wouldn't have gone through that isn't insane. Like scum having a D4 only roleblocker, who decided against stopping the investigative role (ie, you) and instead stopped the useless ****ing inventor (**** you Laundry)

vote: Ranmaru

If he isn't the abductor, we cannot afford to speak tomorrow. I will be voting Orbo, and if these two are BOTH town I don't even want to play this game anymore.

As of this post, Ranmaru is lynched!

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

"So we've gone through an entire cycle in a day...right?"

"Yeah, why?"

"Just curious, it's weird to see Mafia games go so fast."

Ranmaru, Dr. Park, Town Attention ***** has been lynched!

N6 begins? I don't even care when your actions are in, just get them in ASAP.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

AND NOW IT'S DAY AGAIN.

No one died.

D7 begins! Deadline is not gonna last to Sunday, April 8th at 11:59 PM EST but I may as well put up the illusion anyway.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

no1 voat yit

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Jupiter, ya haff 2 b scum. Ya gave me a aitem taht was baisacly "u mad" then trigred my hiddrn BP cuz I was reproting you (saw it coming). So tel me why teh **** a town wud shoot me tehn send me GIjoeys butt saying "TOLD"? Helll, evn taht invention maeks so sens wit your town read onn me.

vote: Jupiter

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Yu dun goofed up nao sun

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Im so mad rite nao cuz its ur words againsts miine buuuuuut ur scumm Kuz was rite.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Why u tho. U shot meh to win earlie butttt no cigar n now u haev to pey.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

N no, theres no way 2 clerify shoooting me. U trutsed me laik "a blok of cemend".

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I swearr Orbo, voting me wud b teh worst aprilz foolz joke rite now.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

U kent b town vig cuzzz u nevr claimt to be ablee to shooot peeple. U wouldfe claimt it as towny. Tis is the endd.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Actually, **** worrying about getting vined. I'm counting on you to fix us up Orbo.

First things first. Orbo, you're town. Xonar is the abductor, and I am fully ready to lynch him.

But WOW, what happened from 'I'm Glyph and I'm not even going to talk tomorrow I'm just gunna vote Orbo and be done with this game.' Well honestly, I expected the game to be over with the ran flip. When Ran flipped town, we were forced to re-evaluate some things, and with only you two alive, it was a pretty easy task. EE, being the one who's good with paper trails, was tasked with reading Orbo, while I didn't do anything since we thought Orbo was pretty obv indy. BUT THEN EVERYTHING CHANGED. EE came back with a town read on Orbo, and I'm inclined to think he knows what he's saying esp after reading him correctly in FFT which he spectated. The next logical step was EE wanting me to look into Xonar.

This is the result.

Lets kick things off with an analysis of Gova's play.

This concludes our analysis of Gova. Jokes aside, Gova literally did not post ONCE through the duration of D1 or D2. Did he have time to do so? He most certainly did, I even skyped with him on a number of occasions through that period of time. If you reflect on the meta case that's been brought up on Gova multiple times, you'll notice that him flat out not playing is not exactly his town meta. Its his scum meta. But what fun would it be if I were to stop there?

We've had a pretty solid town read on Xonar since he first showed up. Spoke a lot of sense in the game, and really just seemed to be thinking the same **** I was. Felt a lot like Gorf's D2 play, where we just were in sync on ****. And really, outside of being forced to look at him as a candidate for being an indy I doubt I would have ever suspected him. Xonar spent a lot of his time since he replaced in building a very strong connection to this slot, and likely it was building to this very moment where big strong EE and Glyph would swoop in and give him the critical ML he needed to end the game.

But it ain't a Biceps case without the muscle to back up what we're pushing.

Xonar enters the game not with a bang, but with a whimper. Almost all of his early posts are pleas with strong players (one even to Ryker/Raz, who was dead at the time) to catch him up in the game. But why choose THOSE players? Why blindly trust the people most likely to be capable of deceiving you? To get CLOSE to them, that's why. Asking someone for help is a great way to get someone to think better of you. You'll see a lot more of this buddying up to the current strongest player later on (though I'm sure you can remember how connected at the hip he was to this slot).

Our first tip off comes soon after the JTB claim was put forth. I ask Xonar to discuss the pros and cons of NLing that day, to which he responds:

How the hell would I know when I hardly read the game ._.

lemme read recent posts

He hasn't read. And he's going to read the recent posts. Pay careful attention to the timestamp on this one.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14249213&postcount=2106

Not directly quoting this one to preserve the quotes inside of it. But seriously, take a look at what's done in there. The quotes he's included are literally the 3 posts just before when I ask the question of him. And from those posts, he suddenly has reads on EVERY player currently alive in the game! Not only did he have time to deduce those, but he also took the time to quote the posts in question, order them, and respond to each of them.

That is not **** you get done in 3 minutes, not in a mafia game.

And guess what, its not even my favorite part of that post!

also didnt i already establish that the abduction is related to the planty vines ****?

I'll be talking a lot about points like this one as well. But for now, lets just look at THIS specific line of that post. Lets take a trip back to D3, or more specifically, lets look at what we knew from flips on D3. Inferno and Bardull had flipped town. Ryker was dead, and John was abducted. We also know that John had been vined before being abducted.

And yet, its the humble Xonar who is the only one to pick up on this connection. Probably because the only way to deduce that connection correctly at this stage in the game would be to have been responsible for it. John was all but CONFIRMED town via his claim, so it came as no real surprise to see he had been taken out of the game. It was a very logical abduction target, and the vines really seemed to be more of a coincidence than anything.

When confronted about this detail, Xonar responds
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14249246&postcount=2114

Well it has to be a real coincidence if they aren't so far LOL

(spoiler, read the part above this post again. It explains why someone who wasn't the indy had no reason to assume they were connected in any way).

New point to address!

and even then
WHY WOULD SCUM GET A FAKECLAIM THAT IS ALREADY IN THE GAME?
makes no sense
and yes im assuming scum gets fakeclaims. source tells me washed always gives those.

That's a pretty big assumption to make, considering Laundry has only run one game on this site other than Gigabots and that one had an open setup. Which MEANS either Xonar came into the game asking if Laundry gave scum safeclaims and someone was short-sighted enough to actually tell him (which considering some of the stuff I've seen happen in this board is actually not that far fetched), or he already had a safeclaim himself to reference.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14252587&postcount=2247
But lets get back to a show I call 'Xonar brings up things about the Indy that are not only probably correct, but for no reason.' Above you'll see our first exhibit, in which the point 'he wasn't sure he had brought up yet' suddenly is nothing but a theory. A theory that still has no reason to exist, might I add.

But then, a plot twist!

Wait...

I just re-read your plan...

Are you trying to command the indy? ._.

Im clinging on to plants -> abduction.

I also watched Gigabots partly for this show. Klora is the indy probably.

Also love how none of Meows results are on living dudes.

No one asked about that. No one even hinted that the indy was connected to the plant or abduction. He just made that connection on his own. For no reason (oh wait the reason is he's the indy).

Considering indy is most likely Klora, it could be a psychiatrist-esque ability.

Food for thought.

More insight on the indy, this time irt Orbo's claim.

And then, my FAVORITE post of the bunch.

LOOOL
GUYS

How to avoid abduction 101:
from today onwards, we will write our posts in a paint file, save it to an image site and post it in thread.
No words used except the thread link, which isnt a word but a name.
win forever

This one comes out of LEFT FIELD. No lead in for it at all. And on the surface, hey, its a good point that could lead to us not getting anyone else abducted, right?

BUT OH YEAH, THAT TONE AND PHRASING IS NOT OF SOMEONE WHO 'HAS A THEORY'. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE INDY CAN DO.

That's a total of SIX times he brings up stuff about the indy without any real reason to do so, or any reasons to support his actions.

Then we're throwing it back to one of my first points, the whole 'buddying the strong player' strategy. From an indy standpoint, its a beautiful opportunity. He sees our slot, incredibly frustrated by case after preposterous case and ready to snap. Imagine our relief when someone joins the game and actually is seeing the things we are! Hot damn, he's so in tune with us he MUST be town!

But then there's the fact that every scenario put forth by Xonar is designed to put Biceps and himself in endgame. And when you're an indy, you're certainly going to make sure you're putting yourself and someone who's gunna follow what you say in endgame.

Really, there's several other little points I could push (Xonar wanting to take control of the town, buddying hard with me and EE and always putting forth situations in which we both reach endgame, etc) but I don't even think its necessary with the points I've already brought up.

Orbo, I cannot stress this last part enough. If you disagree with this case and cannot use your power on yourself, just DO NOT VOTE. Do not say ANYTHING at all, because if you get abducted we're ****ed. If he tries to abduct this slot, you just de-evo us and we're golden.

So yeah, Vote: Xonar.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

LOL Xonar, if we shot you, then who's the abductor?

Oh right it would be you, making you the indy.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

waht if teh indy has a oen-shot? hell do i kno

all i kno is taht a twon woudnt shot me. n ur not afrad of teh plant, maek it evn moar obviouus plz

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

so y u haev a nightkill den?

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

Where the hell do you see us saying 'we shot you'.

Also, even if you really were BP, how the hell would you know who shot you? And how did you know that we sent you a butt with the word 'told' on it when its confirmed our power only gives people an ability, not the image?

I mean, you're suddenly adding both 'SECRET BP' and 'SELF WATCHER' to your claim in ENDGAME.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I aind no self-watchr, but u shot me cuz i saw it. i saw it wen i was reproting u.

so sent teh imaeg, not taht i truts you at all.

i swer im so mad rite now.

 

[Jupiter's Biceps]

U kent b town vig cuzzz u nevr claimt to be ablee to shooot peeple. U wouldfe claimt it as towny. Tis is the endd.

U kent b slf-wtcher n scrt squirrel BP cuzzz u nevr claimt to be ablee to do does tings. U wouldfe claimt it as towny. Tis is the endd.