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Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?

Jupiter's Biceps

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wow I cannot BELIEVE the **** that passes for ****ing analysis these days. There's a special combination of goggling, ****** tunneling, and possible (**** if I know at this point and **** if I care enough to find out when I know so little) scum wrangling for a crucial ML going on here. At this point

Kuz what the ****, man. The amount of predetermined spin you're putting down on literally everything Glyph said makes a perpetual motion machine look like a ****ing fat guy on a treadmill. I am literally stupefied by this. I don't know what to tell you other than to sit your *** in a corner and actually reflect on what's being said before you ctrl+V the same old **** some more. Maybe you'll learn something.

Or maybe you're scum. I don't know. I've still barely read ****. Take what you will from what you will as you will.

If this is seriously ****ing happening I expect oversight for Kuz from here forward because I get the worst rumbles from his replies to Glyph.

So the Butt. We sent Ran the Butt because, yes, it was ****ing funny, but also because we have no idea how Laundry plans to interpret the drawings. None at all. The point of sending a butt to Ranmaru was to send something that we expected to be harmless in all manners and try to get a gauge on what the **** Laundry was going to do with the powers. As a bonus it might have shaken Ranmaru's tree a bit and helped to read him, as his Questions To Nowhere playstyle has no standard to which I can hold it. Ranmaru being selected for the Butt had nothing to do with giving him a power and everything to do with trying to sort out the question marks of our ability. What if we'd targeted a "strong player" (more on that blarghness later) and Wash interpreted it as them becoming in possession of a toxic fart cloud that would grant some minor ability and also fatally poison them? Think about it for one goddamn second.

So N2 was officially real *****s mode. Here's what G Life broke down for me: John's a back-up that is going to be inheriting vig powers from Bardull, and his towniness is basically confirmed by role semantics and other shenanigans. Oh, but also Bardull tried to use his vig on someone and it didn't work, and he flipped as a popgun vigilante or some ****. I read a decent chunk of D2 and skimmed the rest when I got home from work sat night, and saw mention from Bard that his gun "sounded weird". Okay. So somebody replaced the Commander's gun with a phony. Easy enough. Also he got lynched through a cc by Ryker who is presumably scum

So the vigilante starts with a worthless gun? He's confirmed town? There's an obvious vig target? Good chance he's gonna die, but if he doesn't his best use is as a guy that can murder people on town behalf. Since as it stands he's apparently a backup of a red herring role, unless there's other role shenanigans I'm not going to speculate on.

I made a few suggestions to G Life and then left it to him for a while to make the call because he had been present. One was a kevlar vest, but I also thought John might be a doc target. After all... he's apparently confirmed town, and a power role. so I also gave Glyph the suggestion of just drawing him a new gun altogether, a revolver with the cylinder open and six incredibly real bullets being loaded into it.

Glyph said he'd think on it. Later he made the suggestion of the eyepatch laser, which yes, Stryker uses to murderize two guys that were about to kill him. Murder. Protection. Covered all the bases, he felt. Worked for me. There's no such thing as a popcap laserbeam.

Kuz's meta about what I would do wrt strong endgamers and yadda yadda is so completely off base that I have to lean toward him getting it wrong on purpose. I do not give one iota of a **** about who would or would not make a strong endgamer, and the reason for that is that fmpov I am the only thing town ever needs to win a game if I can get there. I don't say such things lightly, but hey, there it is. I don't like throwing stock or faith in someone else to carry on in my absence if I can help it. Ever. If I can't make it that far, oh well, I'll work hard to shape the game positively in what time I have. Which brings me to my next point.

Someone that can be turned from a red herring dud vigilante into an actual vigilante is a hell of a lot more useful to me than a strong player in a game I've read about 20% of. Of course, this is all academic, considering that it has been glaringly ****ing obvious that Glyph has had the wheelhouse for literally like 99% of this game, with my strongest impact on anything being cosigning on the two drawing ideas which were both pitched and rationalized by Glyph alone, and yet here Kuz is trying to use what he thinks I would do as facts of incrimination. How is this **** not getting looked at?

And the point about the eyepatch laser being blocked by the eyepatch is the reachiest reach of all. If we can't trust the mod to even interpret the drawings in accordance to the flavor when they are 100% in line with the flavor, what the hell is the point of even USING this role, or its existence for that matter. Stryker uses the eyepatch laser to defend himself and KILL TOW BAD GUYS. What the **** else do you want, seriously. This in particular is some of the worst reaching I have ever seen.

That's what I have to give. If I find something productive to do later, I'll do it.
 

Jdietz43

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Oh don't worry Jupiter (EE): It's being looked at. We aren't being dumb so much as intentionally ignorant (or at least I was). You're not lynched just yet.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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I haven't read anything.

Ryker/Raz who should I not look at?

Someone else, what happened?

I'll start reading this day after the first question is answered.
 

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I don't know what biceps is at, but I don't want the Day to end before I have a chance to post after work

Xonar, ryker is dead and lots of things happened

:phone:
 

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Alright, tell me about key events and details.

I'll ask that Kuz guy about who is cool.
Kuzguy, who is cool?
John claimed flavor'd back-up vig, confirmed because the vig is dead.

Ryker CC'd a flavor of the game on Bardull, after Bardull said he knew my role as a reason for a town read on my slot. Then got him lynched at the end of the day.

Ramaru when they were super Vegito quick lynched Inferno Day 1 before he could claim with reasoning that we didn't need PRs to win the game. It was stupid.

Gorf is being Gorf.

Meow has posted a little.

Plant role showed up, you say a certain word you get voteblocked.

Jupiter is thought to be scum off his posts before where he tried to comdemn John off being voteblocked and his claim innitially. Some issues with the claim itself as well from some people but still being looked into.

JTB is semi inactive.

Your slot never posted.

Jay, Deitz, has been here and posting very townie.

Kuz was here D1, didn't post D2.

Basically the jist.
 

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Ryker CC'd a flavor of the game on Bardull, after Bardull said he knew my role as a reason for a town read on my slot. Then got him lynched at the end of the day.
So why did Ryker die when he CC'd a townie?

Ramaru when they were super Vegito quick lynched Inferno Day 1 before he could claim with reasoning that we didn't need PRs to win the game. It was stupid.
And he's not dead yet?

Plant role showed up, you say a certain word you get voteblocked.
Wait, plant role? A plant? How did this role "show up"? Who got voteblocked yesterday? Which word is the "certain word" today?

Jupiter is thought to be scum off his posts before where he tried to comdemn John off being voteblocked and his claim innitially. Some issues with the claim itself as well from some people but still being looked into.
Can you link me to this series of posts?


Kuz was here D1, didn't post D2.
Anything happened on D2 so far?
 

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So why did Ryker die when he CC'd a townie?
Ran killed with a stinky butt he got from Jupiter presumably.

And he's not dead yet?
I would have gun hoed them hard if there wasn't people doing worse than that and 2 didn't end after 1 full day. Also it's Zen, Zen has done this as town before.

Wait, plant role? A plant? How did this role "show up"? Who got voteblocked yesterday? Which word is the "certain word" today?
Yeah, if you say a word chosen at night you get voteblocked.

It showed up when it voteblocked John yesturday after he tripped it with some word.

We don't know, Ryker stated it's most likely a scum role.

Can you link me to this series of posts?
Yes.

vote: John

Voteblock was the straw that broke the camel's back. If town has a day ability that voteblocks someone, there's no way in hell they'd use it on John, especially not right now when a vote block doesn't do much of anything at all. I think we're all in agreement that its a scum ability, right?

So why John? Best I can figure, its to make him look like he's someone scum wants not voting. But then you'd have to wonder:

-Isn't there way better options than John to use it on?
-Why throw the power out there NOW, when if you kept it secret til closer to the end of the game it could be a MASSIVE gamechanger (suddenly town loses one of their votes, and can't push through a lynch scum doesn't support).

Thats damning enough for me, but also John's reaction just does not look like TownJohn to me at all. I see a TownJohn being confused and wondering why this is happening, not 'what the hell. Plus his most recent comment livetopic was so generous to provide me with just is gross as all hell. He's eager to draw people's attention to it and get their opinions on it, but what the hell could you expect to get from it on the surface level? 'Someone wanted John to not vote'. That's it.

Lets get this wagon train going.
If you've got information that could clear a playerslot, then I want to hear it. Especially when his claim, play, and this roleblock garbage is making me want him so dead it hurts.

Lets look at his claim in detail.



Incredibly minor character. In a game as small as this I find it hard to see that as a legit flavor, much less as an important of a role as a backup (more important than a VT at least).

Now what I CAN see it as is a neat little safeclaim.



Fine from a claim point of view, but from a flavor point of view it is NASTY. Consider if you will the actual events of Gigabots. Commander Stryker DID die, and he DID have a successor. Only issue here was it wasn't desk grunt #2 (he was too busy being dead, but even if he HAD lived through it I find it incredibly far fetched that he'd be chosen to fill his shoes). No, it was HIS SON, PHOENIX WHO LITERALLY DID THE THING JOHN IS CLAIMING IN HIS ROLE.



'Also conveniently my internet might be spotty so don't expect me to be able to actually answer questions'

What lucky timing!




I'm surprised he hasn't claimed MORE stuff by now. Null until he says otherwise.



Gord you beautiful *******. Just because there's a backup certainly doesn't mean its definitely town.

In fact, allow me to suggest a new flavor for John.

Super Government Computers. Any of the three. You know, the ones who worked to overthrow Commander Stryker and take control of his stuff?

Or hell, what about that asian business man? He did the same damn ****.

John is still scum and we're still lynching him today, UNLESS JD has some crazy super compelling ****.
These posts.

Anything happened on D2 so far?
You mean today or yesturday?
 

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Today is D2, isn't it? 0_o

That's what the title says.

Also, John went missing and he triggered the voteblock. Coincidence? Don't think so. Looks like we're looking at an indy too.
Or killing indy and abducting mafia, but that'd be weird.
 

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Oh wait, John was back up vig? Meh, nvm then.

Which day is it? What happened in previous days w.r.t the voteblocking? Was there a N0?
 

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Also, who got killed etc.
D1 Inferno, he was a tracker who got quick lynched.
N1 no one died.
D2 Bardull, he was a vig who MurderBush counter claimed and then claimed a bingo as a cop on him, though it is questionable after MurderBush claimed to want Bardull vigged super hard, idk how I feel about this fully atm.
N2, MurderBush dies and doesn't flip anything.
N2 John is abducted.

there is a post that was quoted by the mod, but the problem is the word may have change since last night.
 

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Biceps, if you aren't scum, who is? Your play toDay has just been you defending your actions from yesterDay and your claim, not about who we should be looking at instead of you.

:phone:
 

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I like that vote.

Here is something that is bothering me. Biceps told Bardull to refrain from giving flavor and ****. IF he did, this would have cleared him.

Vote: Biceps

I also don't like Gorf. He has been buddying me hard. What's up Gorf? Like, what is your read on me and why?
Well if you think I'm buddying you (which I don't really get O.o...) then obviously I'm feeling town.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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I decided I'm probably not gonna respond to any pressure, especially not any time today. I'm town, and I'm feelin Biceps as town and I know you're iffy on that Kuz so I'd shy away from it and explain to me why your vote isn't on Ruy.

Vote: Doggy
 

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Alright, the word probably changes every night.

Waiting for Kuzguy, then I'll read today.
I've played a few games with you. I'm also Kuz's sexiest other half. I would suggest reading up but if you're lazy plz join us and lynch Biceps :chuckle:
 

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I decided I'm probably not gonna respond to any pressure, especially not any time today. I'm town, and I'm feelin Biceps as town and I know you're iffy on that Kuz so I'd shy away from it and explain to me why your vote isn't on Ruy.

Vote: Doggy
Oooook: Why to every single one of those things.
 

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I decided I'm probably not gonna respond to any pressure, especially not any time today. I'm town, and I'm feelin Biceps as town and I know you're iffy on that Kuz so I'd shy away from it and explain to me why your vote isn't on Ruy.

Vote: Doggy
Yes, because it's so obvious that you're town.

How about you stop being useless, cut the bull****, and actually do something. You're not pressuring us at all with your vote when it's paired up with "I'm not going to respond to any pressure and I'm town".
 

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He reminds me of a certain:


He's got a front to pull, but behind all his actions are some type of other motive. That I can see.

A shameless and complete pro-town player wouldn't be walking down his alley. Pushing John after he's made pretty innocent, buddying like no one's business, and just the incessant snippyness is irksome.
 
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