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Honestly, I think we should keep being vocal about Geno and Mallow, for Smash or not. Even if it seems really unlikely, we can't just stop and give up, or else the support will die out and we'll really never be heard. For all we know, that extra support for Sm4sh might have gone a long way to getting Geno in Ultimate, but it was unfortunately pretty quiet.
I think I'm seeing something here...
All except for one, one that will bring justice down on the world of Super Smash Brothers.
Let's see. Bringing in potential new buyers like any third party would. There's potential millions from the Dragon Quest fanbase in Japan alone. And let's not kid ourselves and forget that despite not being as well known in the west, it has sold decently at worst, even getting a few millions of sales here and there in the US and Europe. And he's no where near as controversial as someone like say, Steve.
Problem is that your claim there requires a lot of assumptions here and there.
You're really trying to argue that Corrin had it better? In the thick of the Fire Emblem debacle of Smash, not to mention, the backlash of him taking up time at what people assumed to be a direct for ballot characters, and a game not even out in the west, without a legacy?
YOUR HONOR! I have evidence that piranha plant did indeed stole geno´s invitation!
On a side note, glad you like it. Oh, and congrats on getting the gender right on the first go.
They'll be the fighter that brings back wobbling.Geno and Mallow are going to be the next
As someone who has supported characters since Brawl, I don’t think temporary support or support after certain events diminishes their value. People can be fickle and they can be swayed, yes, but very few people will support a character they hate just to be right. It’s more that people will support a character because they’re okay with them, or they think they might be cool, or they never knew they wanted them. Not every support has to be diehard.
Yo, Lyn still gets support. The hope is still alive.
But that’s such a basic comparison though. It’s so superficial that there’s really no point in taking it seriously. It’s like saying Smash Bros. and PlayStation All-Stars are interchangeable. There are superficial similarities that led a person to make the connection, but that doesn’t mean it’s valid criticism because the devil is in the detail.
You wanna make me cry? Cause you’re gonna make me cry.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Could you write Smash?
And Geno supporters at least have SMRPG to play. I don’t see the point.
Richter and Simon are the same style though. The difference is that Simon has a more unique design, but they aren’t styled like other anime characters. Dudes with short hair tend to look the same no matter how you draw them.
It was a fun convo.
You can keep saying that people in the West don’t know what DQ is, but that doesn’t make it true.
There are a ton of reasons somebody can start supporting a character after a leak or something like that.
No particular reason, they just dress similarly. Ninten has a few other differences, and others that fans accentuate to differentiate them more (like Ninten wearing his bandanna/scarf from a Mother 1 ad.)
Funny enough, I actually remember there was a 4chan leak from way back before E3 that said Geno and Mallow would be getting in as a tag-team duo a la Icies. Now, I love me some Genos and Mallows, but at the time, I didn't know how to feel about the idea considering they both easily have enough moves to fill a unique moveset by themselves. At this point, though, I'd gladly take it. Anything for my SMRPG boys.Geno and Mallow are going to be the next
Fair, but you forget that it took Fire Emblem over a decade after its inclusion in Smash to really break ground in the west with Awakening. It was still fairly niche before then, even considering Smash exposure. (And it's still probably Nintendo's tenth most popular contemporary series even with how hard it's been pushed.) When it took the series that long to really get rolling, it makes me question how much Smash really had to do with its popularity.
>But that’s such a basic comparison though. It’s so superficial that there’s really no point in taking it seriously. It’s like saying Smash Bros. and PlayStation All-Stars are interchangeable. There are superficial similarities that led a person to make the connection, but that doesn’t mean it’s valid criticism because the devil is in the detail.
Like it or not the visual aspect of characters is a part of what appeals to fans. And when you have a bunch of characters that feel too same-y in terms of their design and what they bring to the table added in a big chunk to a previous title it’s inevitable that some people aren’t going to like the idea of more of that type of character.
Out of curiosity have you actually heard people complain about these designs outside of Smash forums or the internet? I still question if that many people within the millions and millions of Smash owners really give a crap about it, especially when it comes to people outside the Smash bubble.
REALLY?! I totally forgot! can't wait to play SMRPG: Seven Houses on my Switch :D
A character from FE that doesn't use a sword? Does that even exists?
Nah, I'm pretty staunchly against tag-teams. Ice Climbers and Rosalina & Luma work because they're kind of inherently tied to one another, but I don't want unique characters paired up. I want the likes of Geno and Mallow to represent themselves, not be shoehorned to each other. That's the reason I'm so glad Dixie and Diddy didn't happen, and somewhat disappointed we didn't just get Squirtle and Ivysaur back on their own.Geno and Mallow are going to be the next
I mean Joker is 100% The Phantom Thief and they're having a laugh with that concept. I don't see any reason to see that as anything at all and I'm confused as to where the concept comes from of anything else haha.
bRUH, You know you can play with one pokemon only with no punishment? You can play the hell out of Squirtle, Ivysaur or Charizard if you want without changing it, I think it's pretty neat.
I'm actually gonna lose my **** if Erdrick's Down B ends to be a Counter
Is there a counter mechanic in Dragon Quest?
Oh, I'm aware. It makes Pokemon Trainer an actually usable character for me. The Pokemon Trainer still feels a little too balanced around the idea of having all three choices available and I would like them all to have their Down B moves from say Project M in a perfect world. Sure, it's neat, but I just prefer not transforming or paired characters is all haha.
Never in Erdrick for sure
Then I doubt he'd have it, unless he'll get a conceptual one like Peach or Shulk.
At least your boys are noticed, I'm lucky if Master Higgins is paid attention to at all.
He'd just have a reflector shield instead.
would count. And sure doesn't have one, even if he has a definitely-not-Final-Aether FS these days.
Makarakarn, then.He'd just have a reflector shield instead.
No one ever said Smash was the sole reason for Fire Emblem flourishing in the west. It is what got the ball rolling since it helped people become far more familiar with it, like Smash does.
Yeah, this is pretty much my only beef here is that DQ gets content all the time on a regular basis. SMRPG and its properties haven't gotten new content in so, so long, despite the fan demand, despite people rallying for Square to bring them back, despite everything. Honestly, of all of the Square seven, only Geno and Crono suffer from that, and at least Crono had some more games under his belt and less impossible ties with Nintendo's Mario franchise. Geno's in easily the crappiest situation of the seven.
Tbh, this is one of the reasons I want Crono to be DLC along with Geno in wave 1. They both need a revival, and Smash would do it perfectly for them.
Eh, I don't know about Crono. He has so many hoops to go through and so many legal issues behind him (along with personal stuff with the devs) that a Smash inclusion might not revive him. Geno being in Smash would more than likely signal a revival, or at least Square's willingness to, you know, actually use him instead of refusing to like the kindergarten child refusing to share their toys.
Does it have to do with the way the companies who created the game went on split paths?
It's definitely a large part of that, yeah. That being said, Dax makes a good point that Square has a heck of a lot of passion for rereleasing CT, and their statements about remastering old games gives Crono a new chance to shine again.
Well, CT wasn't on the SNES Classic, but SMRPG was, so it's not like it always has the upper hand.
Honestly, of all of the Square seven, I probably would have been happiest with Crono if we didn't get Geno, haha. I mean, I guess... at least Erdrick is also an Akira Toriyama character? Also, Erdrick has a cute female alt, which my gay ass can totally get behind.
I actually had a conversation about this with one of my best friends last week who is comparatively much more casual as far as speculation and things goes and when he was asking about DLC characters that are rumored and I brought up Erdrick he said that there are a lot of that kind of character in the game already. Obviously alluding to the animu swordsman thing. Or when I’m hanging out with people and playing the game people have joked about all the swords in the game. Again that’s just my anecdotal experience but you asked.
That's why Ovaltine said "Square just doesn't care about SMRPG. It's... kinda painfully obvious. "
SE could've pushed for Crono Trigger to be on the SNES Classic. But they didn't. Instead, they allowed SMRPG to be put on the SNES Classic
Again, that's because Nintendo was making the games.
