Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Griselda]

TFW @papagenos and @Fatmanonice are revealed as Geno's adopted sons in the trailer, sent to earth to scout ahead for his mission. <3


Papa's got a new vid that explains everything 9 mins in! Also, if it makes you feel better my knees are even worse. Lets just say Im not called MattOnWheels for nothing. I know the pain of sore legs.

Just watched the video. Covers about everything I was thinking of myself, but it just feels like confirmation that something's definitely going on here. I dunno what, but something.

 

[TooManyToastahs]

I’m just gonna come out and say it, you guys have been absolutely killing it with the speculation and detective work recently. I wouldn’t have known about half of the things that happened recently (Like the Nintendo takedown patterns and the bizarre happenings with the Smash Ultimate Mario tournament) if it wasn’t for all you guys.

This post probably seems like it came out of left field, but I was watching the PapaGenos video and I realized, “wow, these guys were really on top of this stuff”, so I just wanted to throw some compliments your guys’ way

 

[J. Bond]

I have an honest question to propose for you all: Let's say a fighter is revealed next week and it isn't Geno, or a Mario character for that matter. Would that lower Geno's chances?

I don't know if I'm wrong for feeling this way, but with the Mario tourney coming up and the end of 2020 being very Mario-oriented, I feel this is the perfect time for a Mario character to be revealed. A Mario character could still happen later down the line of course, but having that tourney months away really makes me think this is the time.

Maybe FP7 announced next week, it's Geno, and he releases in time for the tourney, but who knows. I'm more worried that we're going to be dragged through the entirety of 2021, waiting months at a time for that announcement.

It's gonna be Geno.

 

[pinshadow]

I have an honest question to propose for you all: Let's say a fighter is revealed next week and it isn't Geno, or a Mario character for that matter. Would that lower Geno's chances?

I don't know if I'm wrong for feeling this way, but with the Mario tourney coming up and the end of 2020 being very Mario-oriented, I feel this is the perfect time for a Mario character to be revealed. A Mario character could still happen later down the line of course, but having that tourney months away really makes me think this is the time.

Maybe FP7 announced next week, it's Geno, and he releases in time for the tourney, but who knows. I'm more worried that we're going to be dragged through the entirety of 2021, waiting months at a time for that announcement.

Depends entirely on who it is. Smash Speculation has been a blank void since January in terms of solid leads and almost none of the theorycrafting anyone has for Pass 2 has really been tested yet. Me along with several others were pretty confident that Character 6 would be First Party just with how past DLC cycles had played out and sure enough, but that's about it.

 

[Blankiturayman]

I have an honest question to propose for you all: Let's say a fighter is revealed next week and it isn't Geno, or a Mario character for that matter. Would that lower Geno's chances?

I don't know if I'm wrong for feeling this way, but with the Mario tourney coming up and the end of 2020 being very Mario-oriented, I feel this is the perfect time for a Mario character to be revealed. A Mario character could still happen later down the line of course, but having that tourney months away really makes me think this is the time.

Maybe FP7 announced next week, it's Geno, and he releases in time for the tourney, but who knows. I'm more worried that we're going to be dragged through the entirety of 2021, waiting months at a time for that announcement.

I would say that as long as it's not a SE character or something of the sort, Geno's chances would remain the same. Sure, it would be very nice if they lined up the 7th fighter for an anniversary, and I could see them doing it even, but so far, Smash has glossed over anniversaries in general. I can't recall if any character came around the time of its franchise's celebration, or something on that note. So I'd say the chances would remain the same for the rest of the pass going off of that, since Geno or another Mario character could just be announced/released outside the anniversary.

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

Geno is awesome

When did he become Popular anyway?

 

[skydogc]

I was at one of my Illuminati meetings earlier today and Brother Dark Wizard Voldemort brought up a good point: other things

He sounds like an upstanding and reasonable fellow who drops in to surprise the kids.

prior things mentioning an awesome dude-bro we'd all like to have a beer with: partner showcases are probably going to continue being late month things going forward. The mini in March for all intents and purposes was basically a Partner Showcase too outside of Smash so we now technically have three occurrences of this.

Beyond this, there's always been at least a week's difference between character announcements and releases. Amiibo releases and character releases have never happened in the same week either with the one exception being the Japanese release of Terry's Amiibo wave the day after his global release. So, this all being said, let's map this out...

Because of the Amiibo wave at the end of the month and the fact another partner would most likely be during that week too, the chances of 7 being released the week of 21st are pretty small. With that in mind, it puts a high probability of 7 being released the week of the 14th which puts a high probability of 7 being announced the week of the 7th given the typical minimum week gap between character announcements and releases as well as character releases and Amiibo waves. Decided to look into it and, going back to 2014, General Directs are overwhelmingly either the first or second full week of the month so that ups the chances of a presentation being this coming week quite a bit too. I also noticed that, date wise, General Directs usually fall on "single digits" dates and, when they don't, they rarely go beyond the 14th.

I love this information, but just curious, has Nintendo ever done a General Direct and then a second smaller or focused direct style video in the month of September? Just curious if that would also give away part of a pattern. I'm going to look as soon as I get home, but right now I'm kinda out and about.

 

[StarMagician]

Geno is awesome

When did he become Popular anyway?

People have been asking for Geno since Melee. That's something a lot of people tend to forget when talking about Geno, as if he's some forgotten character that's only getting hyped up now. Really, the Geno hype train started back when Geno was still a relatively new character - it's just built speed and number since then with newer people. But the roots have always been older than a lot of other Smash fanbases.

 

[Lord Woomy]

Interesting thing I found in the Papa vid today was Ryce talking about how Shinobi was known as an insider and knew what he was doing when teasing Banjo, saying that he wouldn't just do it to ruffle feathers. It kinda gives an interesting insight on him and how he thinks insiders do/should operate with not misleading people and everything. At this point, Ryce has yet to clarify whether or not his postings were a tease or just speculation despite many assuming it's the former. Makes me think that with Ryce's whole ideology on insiderdom, he would've clarified himself by now if it were speculation.

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

People have been asking for Geno since Melee. That's something a lot of people tend to forget when talking about Geno, as if he's some forgotten character that's only getting hyped up now. Really, the Geno hype train started back when Geno was still a relatively new character - it's just built speed and number since then with newer people. But the roots have always been older than a lot of other Smash fanbases.

That's cool, I love when any game includes forgotten characters.

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

Interesting thing I found in the Papa vid today was Ryce talking about how Shinobi was known as an insider and knew what he was doing when teasing Banjo, saying that he wouldn't just do it to ruffle feathers. It kinda gives an interesting insight on him and how he thinks insiders do/should operate with not misleading people and everything. At this point, Ryce has yet to clarify whether or not his postings were a tease or just speculation despite many assuming it's the former. Makes me think that with Ryce's whole ideology on insiderdom, he would've clarified himself by now if it were speculation.
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Where is Shinobi anyway?

 

[ctt4lfecw]

I’ve waited so many years for Geno, I know this seems like his most likely time to be revealed with the Mario Anniversary and the 7th DLC with 77th fighter, but I’ve been kicked in the face so many times. For all I know the next fighter is going to be like another Pokemon or something.

 

[Lord Woomy]

Where is Shinobi anyway?

Having a smashing good time, I'm sure

 

[Spatulo]

Interesting thing I found in the Papa vid today was Ryce talking about how Shinobi was known as an insider and knew what he was doing when teasing Banjo, saying that he wouldn't just do it to ruffle feathers. It kinda gives an interesting insight on him and how he thinks insiders do/should operate with not misleading people and everything. At this point, Ryce has yet to clarify whether or not his postings were a tease or just speculation despite many assuming it's the former. Makes me think that with Ryce's whole ideology on insiderdom, he would've clarified himself by now if it were speculation.
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So Geno is in

 

[Lord Woomy]

So Geno is in

Well we've already known that for a while now, Spat B)

 

[YeppersPeppers]

Interesting thing I found in the Papa vid today was Ryce talking about how Shinobi was known as an insider and knew what he was doing when teasing Banjo, saying that he wouldn't just do it to ruffle feathers. It kinda gives an interesting insight on him and how he thinks insiders do/should operate with not misleading people and everything. At this point, Ryce has yet to clarify whether or not his postings were a tease or just speculation despite many assuming it's the former. Makes me think that with Ryce's whole ideology on insiderdom, he would've clarified himself by now if it were speculation.
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I dunno...he seems to think it's actually kinda funny that people think he was teasing anything...

 

[Enigma735]

I can understand why you’d be excited, every one of those games are great in their own right and it’s convenient to have it on a system you actually use.

I personally criticize this approach by Nintendo due to how other consoles have approached their back catalogue games. Both Sony and Microsoft have handled their virtual archives consistently better than Nintendo and continue to offer so much more.

Not only major console manufacturers, but other publishers as well continue to offer remakes and remasters with more obvious effort placed into their rereleases.

Kingdom Hearts for example. While I absolutely despise how many times this game has technically been released, (lol all while avoiding the switch)
“The Story So Far” Offered

-KH1 Final mix
-Kh re chain of memories
-kH2 final mix
-Birth by sleep final mix
-2.8
-KH DDD
- brand new additional content from other games of the series

I think All of this was priced at 40$ brand new.

All I’m saying is that in terms of “Value”, too many companies have Nintendo beat, and are willing to go the extra mile when creating these collection style titles.

I actually agree with this in some ways. As I said, I personally don't think they needed to have that much content with these games, as just re-releasing these games at all is absolutely amazing, but I will admit that Sony and Microsoft definitely know how to make good collections, best example would definitely be Rare Replay in Microsoft's case.

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

2020 might end Positively or not
but i think it was the worst year for nintendo news

 

[CannonStreak]

So, is it almost 8 PM CST yet? That is the time someone said that a Sakurai Presents could happen, as it apparently happened with Hero.

 

[Firox]

Yeah.

I wasn’t born in 1996, so no 64. I was a baby in 2002, so no Sunshine. I didn't get into video games until I was around 8-9, and that was after Galaxy came out, so no Galaxy.

I was born in 1986, and I'm not gonna lie, I got to have my childhood during the golden age of gaming. We had SMRPG, Earthbound, the first three Donkey Kong Countries, Banjo Kazooie, the OG Sonic the hedgehog, all the classic Marios, the original Smash bros and Melee, 007 Goldeneye (the father of modern FPS), the first three Halo games, Star Fox 64, all the Mario Karts, the original release of the Metroid Prime series, the Golden Sun series, the very first advent of POKEMON, the list goes on and on. I lament that my children will never get to have the same experience. It was epic AF and I regret nothing.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I was born in 1986, and I'm not gonna lie, I got to have my childhood during the golden age of gaming. We had SMRPG, Earthbound, the first three Donkey Kong Countries, Banjo Kazooie, the OG Sonic the hedgehog, all the classic Marios, the original Smash bros and Melee, 007 Goldeneye (the father of modern FPS), the first three Halo games, Star Fox 64, all the Mario Karts, the original release of the Metroid Prime series, the Golden Sun series, the very first advent of POKEMON, the list goes on and on. I lament that my children will never get to have the same experience. It was epic AF and I regret nothing.

Oh hey that's the same year I was born

 

[MattX20]

I was born in 1990, so my experiences with the SNES were the earliest gaming memories I can honestly recall

 

[AceAttorney9000]

Interesting thing I found in the Papa vid today was Ryce talking about how Shinobi was known as an insider and knew what he was doing when teasing Banjo, saying that he wouldn't just do it to ruffle feathers. It kinda gives an interesting insight on him and how he thinks insiders do/should operate with not misleading people and everything. At this point, Ryce has yet to clarify whether or not his postings were a tease or just speculation despite many assuming it's the former. Makes me think that with Ryce's whole ideology on insiderdom, he would've clarified himself by now if it were speculation.
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With this in mind, I don't know if Ryce's recent Geno posts are our big Shinobi moment or not, but they're at least worth keeping an eye on until either Fighter 7 is revealed, or Ryce puts out the "just joking" excuse like so many other insiders have when posting about Geno.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

As someone growing up during the consoles wars, its hard to describe the sheer amount and consistency of incredible titles coming out by even just Nintendo during the time period; so many which are still considered some of, if not the best entries to this day. 94 to 98 was basically a streak of home console releases I don't think the company has ever quite topped:

1994 - Super Metroid, Donkey Kong Country, Earthbound, Final Fantasy VI
1995 - DKC2, Yoshi's Island, Chrono Trigger,
1996 - Super Mario 64, Kirby's Super Star, DKC3, Super Mario RPG, Mario Kart 64
1997 - Star Fox 64, Goldeneye, Diddy Kong Racing
1998 - Banjo Kazooie, Ocarina of TIme,

 

[Enigma735]

(and getting booted out of a level after getting a star)

In defense for this, 64 would be a VASTLY shorter game if it didn't have a boot out system. But I do agree that the camera could have been adjusted by mapping the camera controls to the right analog stick instead of the L and R triggers, but I doubt Nintendo is gonna do that.

Like I said, as someone who has played all three of these games before and have loved every second of them, I am so beyond excited to play these games again on my Switch, but I do understand the criticisms and I respect your opinion. I'm not saying people aren't allowed to criticize this, nor am I trying to come off that way, but I'm just simply bringing up some complaints that I personally don't understand and bringing up my own counterpoints against these complaints.

 

[MattOnwheels]

I actually agree with this in some ways. As I said, I personally don't think they needed to have that much content with these games, as just re-releasing these games at all is absolutely amazing, but I will admit that Sony and Microsoft definitely know how to make good collections, best example would definitely be Rare Replay in Microsoft's case.

I'm sorry, Enigma, but I have to agree with him. These ports are pathetic and to tie them to the All Stars branding is a joke. There is nothing worthwhile about this collection other than the minimal convenience of portable play, and that's not enough to warrant jamming them in a collection. There is a standard in place with these things and as per usual, Nintendo is woefully behind the rest of the industry on this one.

It doesn't stop there, either. Don't just look at the collection alone. Look at the way Nintendo have conducted themselves. pinshadow 's list tells the tale: Nintendo seem to be living in some bizarre land where common sense isn't so common and yet, here we are, prepared to reward that in the hopes we can be convinced they know what they're doing despite mounting evidence they only intend to please themselves going forward.

 

[Enigma735]

I'm sorry, Enigma, but I have to agree with him. These ports are pathetic and to tie them to the All Stars branding is a joke. There is nothing worthwhile about this collection other than the minimal convenience of portable play, and that's not enough to warrant jamming them in a collection. There is a standard in place with these things and as per usual, Nintendo is woefully behind the rest of the industry on this one.

It doesn't stop there, either. Don't just look at the collection alone. Look at the way Nintendo have conducted themselves. pinshadow 's list tells the tale: Nintendo seem to be living in some bizarre land where common sense isn't so common and yet, here we are, prepared to reward that in the hopes we can be convinced they know what they're doing despite mounting evidence they only intend to please themselves going forward.

You don't need to apologize. As I said, I respect any opposing opinion to mine, just as long as its respectful of course. I do admit, I wish their was something more they did besides just simply porting them, but again, these three games are some of the best video games of all time and to have all these games in one package is a godsend for me coming from someone who is an absolute fanboy for the 3D Mario platformers.

And also, that's not even to mention the MUSIC PLAYER. Its small, sure, but just to listen to the full soundtracks for each of these games is extremely hype for me since these three games have some of the best music in video game history, especially Galaxy.

Like I said, I understand some of the complaints I have seen, but at the end of the day, these games included are still among the best video games ever made and I am incredibly happy to have these games on the Switch.

 

[Vector Victor]

So, is it possible something Smash related was suppose to happen but Nintendo panicked at the idea of informing their fans and pushed it? Its odd that there is no event this weekend but they are advertising a tourney two months out. Does THAT count as this week's event?

 

[a random user]

So, is it possible something Smash related was suppose to happen but Nintendo panicked at the idea of informing their fans and pushed it? Its odd that there is no event this weekend but they are advertising a tourney two months out. Does THAT count as this week's event?

possible if the character is first party, if it is third party they have contracts on when they will release that both company's have to agree to, they cant change it unless they both agree

 

[Enigma735]

Anyways, to get back on topic with Geno, getting the reveal of FP7 next week after we just got this Mario 35th Anniversary Direct would be the absolute PERFECT time to reveal a Mario character for Smash. And with so much hints and teases towards Geno's inclusion, I would honestly be shocked if he isn't CP7 or at the latest CP8. And honestly, I could very well see Sakurai pull a Byleth and announce a Sakurai Presentation announcing a mystery fighter. Given how COVID has really changed the way Nintendo has been revealing things this year, I honestly wouldn't put it past Nintendo to finally announce some Smash information very soon here, especially since the Polish Amiibo Leak seems to suggest that we will get something Smash related very soon here. And besides, out of any potential third party character, Geno makes the absolute MOST SENSE to be revealed this way since Geno isn't necessarily iconic, but he is big enough in the Smash speculation scene that most Smash fans are most likely to tune in to this presentation. Like c'mon, would Crash or Master Chief REALLY get revealed in this sort of way? Also given how FP7 most likely was originally planned to be revealed at E3, its very likely that Geno most likely would have been that E3-tier Smash reveal, given the huge outcry to have him playable.

You guys have already known my stance on Geno throughout all these months, and that I personally believe he is 99.9999999999% likely to happen, but having a Sakurai Presentation next week and having it be Geno just makes so much sense in my opinion. Let's hope all this speculation pans out for our boi, because I am very certain our wish will be granted very soon here.

 

[YsDisciple]

I'm starting to gravitate towards the idea of a Smash announcement on the week of September 7th, and possibly the subsequent character release on the week of the 14th. The scheduled maintenance for September 14 image someone brought up earlier would lead to a similar scenario to Min Min's release. Min Min was revealed on June 22nd, and 7 days later (June 29th) was released (i.e. added to the game). Strictly going by the maintenance date as a potential Smash DLC fighter update, then a good day for its reveal would be September 7th (theory of SEVEN manifests itself?!?! ).

 

[DarkShadow20]

I'm starting to gravitate towards the idea of a Smash announcement on the week of September 7th, and possibly the subsequent character release on the week of the 14th. The scheduled maintenance for September 14 image someone brought up earlier would lead to a similar scenario to Min Min's release. Min Min was revealed on June 22nd, and 7 days later (June 29th) was released (i.e. added to the game). Strictly going by the maintenance date as a potential Smash DLC fighter update, then a good day for its reveal would be September 7th (theory of SEVEN manifests itself?!?! ).

"September, which stems from the Latin root “septem,” meaning seven, actually was the seventh of the calendar originally."

Return of 7 theory.

 

[Griselda]

I propose the 'Whirl Theory'. Geno will be revealed on 9/9/20, at 9:09 AM.

 

[Sigran101]

There just happens to be a schedule future maintenance period for the 14th, so it falls in line with the possibility of a Sakurai Presents happening next week and then the release date for FP7 the week after View attachment 284521

This maintenance says it's for something regarding prepaid cards and download codes. I don't think it's for the smash DLC.

 

[Skull Leader]

This maintenance says it's for something regarding prepaid cards and download codes. I don't think it's for the smash DLC.

Isn't it for e-shop overall?

Yeah it's a little tinfoil-ey, but it's not like they're going to schedule maintenance and tag it with "Fighters Pass 7 Character".

 

[mynameisBlade]

Watch us get SUPRISE!! IT'S WALUIGI!! and he comes with the long awaited return of the Geno Mii Costume.

I wouldn't be too upset over that tbh..

 

[Griselda]

Watch us get SUPRISE!! IT'S WALUIGI!! and he comes with the long awaited return of the Geno Mii Costume.

I wouldn't be too upset over that tbh..

Eh. Not getting Geno would suck especially after all of this build up, but at least I'd still get Waluigi and more importantly the torture would be over. So there's that.

 

[Sigran101]

Isn't it for e-shop overall?

Yeah it's a little tinfoil-ey, but it's not like they're going to schedule maintenance and tag it with "Fighters Pass 7 Character".

Fair enough. Does anyone here know what the previous dlc maintenance descriptions were?

 

[Icewolff92]

I've been seeing so much disappointment with the Super Mario 3D All-Stars collection and I'm honestly not sure why. I get some complaints like the fact this game will only be available for a limited time, and it is so freakin' strange that Galaxy 2 was skipped over for this collection, but honestly, just the fact that we are getting this collection at all is absolutely astounding.

Some people complain about the fact that Nintendo was "lazy" and that they should've done more work with these remasters besides simply porting them, but to that I ask, why bother? These three games are absolutely timeless and if Nintendo were to change things about each of these games, they will get loads of criticism for that too, so they can really make no one happy no matter what decision they decide to do. Also, one of my favorite sayings, don't fix what isn't broken. Fixing these games too much could easily make it a worse experience, and honestly, 64 and Galaxy are absolutely perfect as they are. The only thing those two games really needed was just an HD up-scaling. The only game that really did need some improvements was Sunshine by making the blue coins easier to find, by having a "blue coin tracker" sort of deal, but to that I say, this isn't 2002 anymore. Their are plenty of guides nowadays to help you with that, and it shouldn't be as hard as it probably was back in the day.

Some people also complain about the fact that this game is $60, but honestly, that is a better deal then I have seen most people give it credit for. People need to remember that not everyone has a Switch to play these games, and I am assuming most Switch players of this generation are new and probably never grew up with an N64, GameCube or Wii. Nowadays, an authentic cartridge of Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Mario Galaxy costs roughly $30 each, adding up to $90 in total for each of these games. If you don't think that is a lot, then you also need to consider the fact that these people probably don't even have the systems to play these games on. As I said earlier, most of the current Switch owners probably never grew up with the older Nintendo systems, so using that mindset, they would most likely need to buy these old systems if they are interested in playing these old games. The Nintendo 64, GameCube and Wii are around $100-$200, and in total, would be around $400-$500! And that doesn't even get in to the combined total of each of these games + these systems, which the grand total would most likely be around $590-$600!
So yeah, if you're someone that is complaining over the $60 price for this Super Mario 3D All-Stars collection, you really need to check the facts and do some research, because $60 isn't a bad deal when adding all of this up.

But yeah, as you can tell, I am excited for this game. This collection isn't perfect, but if I want to play all these games in 2020, you better believe this will be my go-to way to play these games for now on, and I am extremely excited for the 18th. 14 days cannot come any sooner!

Dude, first of all. Just on the limited time alone is extremely fricking scummy. Scalpers are going to love this more than the fan that actually tries to get access to a copy. And no, the games are not "perfect at all". Super Mario 64 is filled with bugs galore and has a camera that has aged horrendously. There is a reason why people are able to do stuff as 16-star speed runs... Sunshine is arguably the most unfinished Nintendo game of all time with all the glitches it contains. Don´t get me started on the "flipper table" red mini-map or whatever that game is called.

The only game that has aged well of the 3 is Galaxy.

Sure its only 60 bucks, but as someone else mentioned about Square Enix. My sis bought about a collection of 9 KH games on the PlayStation 4 for about 100 USD... And those are upgraded and polished versions, not just "barebones" work like this trilogy is.

 

[Awkwah]

This has started to circulate. Take as you will, I do want to see if I can find that user though.

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