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That sounds like the most logical thing but most of Smash speculation has been anything but logical.
I love how in modern times, the mythos of ninjutsu has evolved to the point that people just expect ninjas to have supernatural abilities like elemental projectiles or the power to literally dissolve into the shadows. Stuff like Naruto is awesome to watch, but takes it to an almost comedic level by having people rip souls out of other people's bodies, spitting fireballs the size of cars, forming water into dragons, punching hard enough to vaporize matter, resurrecting the dead, etc, etc. Then you have Ninja Assassin where 1 ninja can slaughter 20+ armed soldiers with nothing but a knife and chain. Badass? Heck yeah, but I bet if the real ninjas of old could see how we've conflated things nowadays, they'd probably laugh their heads off.Yes, Ryu possesses "Ninja Magic", otherwise known as Ninpo. The one being referred to is Art of the Fire Wheels.
In the NES Trilogy it looked like:
in the newer Ninja Gaidens it looks like:
Ryu H has a very diverse and incredible moveset, honestly.
Don't you put that evil on me
Don't forget Shantae's window. Can't go looking for Smash Balls everywhere.
I see what you mean. Staring at it a little further those walkways are pretty deep in the cooling tower, at first they appeared to be right on top. Both ways are hideously inaccurate to real cooling towers, but Fortnite is hideously inaccurate to compelling gameplay and that never stopped them.
Fake smash ball, Neku confirmed not making it in, rip.guys it's just 2 lines
I knew Tetris was coming to Smash, I just knew it.yeah, I wouldn't take "OMG this thing looks like the Smash symbol" that seriously. Hell, I took a picture of Tetris 99 when I found something that looks like the Smash symbol, Just look at the left circle on the crown:
So unless we're getting Tetris blocks as a DLC fighter, I think it's not worth taking that seriously.
Look on the bright side: Now we can have doubles matches with Ryu and Ryu vs Roy and Roy.
Thats a really good point I haven’t thought of. All the western characters we currently have originated from a second party dev, though Banjo kinda breaks that rule now. Obviously that won’t be upheld with further characters, but I think it shows theyre pretty strict on western characters.
I was thinking of this today where almost the current DLC has been characters from the 80s and 90s. While Joker is 10s, his series is long established much earlier than that. Luminary may be the default, but he sure as hell didn't get in on his own merits; that comes from Erdrick (who really should have been the default).
I hate to be "that guy" because I'm a Shantae fan myself, but her series' legacy does not even remotely approach any of the other franchises represented in the fighter's pass-- or the ones you just listed for that matter. Fans in the Smash community have been positioning her as this huge sensation and "the original Nindie" but she's a lot more niche than people realize.
I didn't know that, but I don't think existing conceptually is enough to matter for something like smash. I'm not too keen on anything overtly western anyway untill we get something that says otherwise. The level of buzz around banjo being in worldwide is a pretty big bar to clear.
I gotta disagree with you there, I wouldnt call a few years of popularity a legacy. While I dont have the data in front of me, I’d be willing to bet Overwatch’s playerbase has dropped significantly (not taking the Hong Kong controversy into account). I myself stopped played about year in, as well as most my friends. I dont know anyone who still plays Overwatch irl regularly anymore. I’ve moved back to TF2 and I think that playerbase has actually grown a bit recently. This is just circumstantial though.
To second your post, I was SUPER into Overwatch for the first two years of its release and I can testify that the playerbase has dropped significantly (by about 25-40% after the first year and 60-75% after the second). I, myself, finally had to drop out after my last regular teammate decided to move on. As for Fortnite though, they're still boasting over 250 million players as of March 2019 so they're definitely a noteworthy franchise, though I would argue that the player avatars of Fortnite lack the character (I'm not talking about the plethora of interchangeable skins) and potential movesets that the Overwatch characters would have. Bottomline: I honestly don't see either franchise getting into Smash but at least if Overwatch did, I'd probably buy it. Fortnite, on the other hand, would make me glad I buy DLC individually.
Safe to say that Blizzard did more to harm Overwatch over its run than Overwatch ever did, but we have to define "legacy" when we think in these terms. Sure, it's been two years, but Fortnite's legacy is already to have one of the highest payouts (if not the highest) in competitive gaming. It's one of the most played games in the world, likely owing to the fact that it can run on a toaster and has come to every major console as well as mobile, and despite not inventing the genre, has defined it.
No, not really. They've still got a long way to go to have any kind of lasting legacy. Most of the franchises featured in Smash come from long running franchises with history behind them. Splatoon's the main exception of the rule because that's something Nintendo owns lock, stock, and barrel. Overwatch and Fortnite do not have that excuse.
I don't doubt that OW's player base has shrunk, and our experiences are similar (dropped OW after a year or so, while TF2 remains an all-time favorite of mine). And you're right in saying there's no way of knowing how long Fortnite's appeal will last-- but it's obscenely popular now, and the uncertainty about where it's gonna be in 5 years or so doesn't have any bearing on whether or not I consider it worthy. A number of series represented in Smash already had short-lived popularity without ever becoming phenomena the way Fortnite or even Overwatch have (although this admittedly applies mainly to the first party franchises).
To be fair, when you consider all the characters to ever make it into Smash, it seems that the legacy of a FRANCHISE is more important to Sakurai than the legacy of a single game, thus newer characters can be added from a legacy franchise. For example, Luminary was the default for Hero which is the latest iteration of the DQ series: Legacy franchise, newer character. Same goes for Joker, Corrin, Greninja, and others. In other words, Sakurai isn't averse to adding characters that are new and popular, but there does seem to be a common requisite for their home franchise to carry some kind of historical relevance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Splatoon the youngest franchise in Smash to have a playable character? And that debuted in 2015, so I guess it's really not all that old, though you could argue that the major advantage it had over other shooters was that it was first party.
That's the point I'm making. Both Overwatch and Fortnite are a single game, not a franchise like Doom or even Team Fortress.
Ryu is number 5 for pass and they are not as sure about Geno being in second DLC.
What makes them so unsure about Geno, if I can ask?
Has he commented on Geno besides "unsure"?
I suppose it's encouraging he's heard some Geno news even if he's not certain of it.
Yeah its pretty inconsequential I think (also I would count Lloyd in as likely as well, but I have my doubts on him being #5 specifically.)
I really doubt it would be Capcom. They already got costumes with Banjo, so I assumes that rules them out for this pass.
