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General Sonic the Hedgehog Series Discussion: Sonic Lost World!

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Sonic? With character flaws?

Be still my beating heart, character development may actually be in this game.
 

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Sonic? With character flaws?

Be still my beating heart, character development may actually be in this game.
Show that Sonic's impulsiveness isn't always a good thing? Sonic going out of his way to show he gives a damn about his best friend? I'd expect that from the comics but I'm damn impressed for it to actually be in one of the main-series games.

Let's be honest, this is probably why people liked Shadow so much when he first showed up in SA2. Next to Sonic, Shadow was actually a legitimately interesting character. Same goes for Knuckles when he first showed up in Sonic 3.
 

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Nice to see Eggman looking and sounding threatening, as opposed to his goofball persona he's had lately.

Gonna theorize on the plot. The game seems to tie into Colors, with the wisps returning and all. Eggman's great big plan in Colors wash to brainwash the entire planet, and now we see the Deadly Six have some sort of psychic power that lets them take control of Eggman's mechs. Sonic's friends, specifically Knuckles and Amy, are said to be in the game. Maybe the Deadly Six will be able to take control them and force them to fight Sonic?
 

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With the 30th anniversary coming up and all, I REALLY HOPE that Sega puts out all the stops for this Sonic game. After so many ****ty games this past decade, I really want to see Sonic compete with Mario again, not in terms of company competition, but rather gameplay. Lost Worlds is looking really good so far, so I'm pretty excited! :)
 

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With the 30th anniversary coming up and all, I REALLY HOPE that Sega puts out all the stops for this Sonic game. After so many ****ty games this past decade, I really want to see Sonic compete with Mario again, not in terms of company competition, but rather gameplay. Lost Worlds is looking really good so far, so I'm pretty excited! :)

*cough* *cough* Sorry I have a cold.
 

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Sonic 06, Unleashed, and the Storybook games maybe, but the more recent installments have been good games. People just have Sega-hate goggles on and don't see it. Claims like they made "so many ****ty games this past decade" aren't necessarily well founded, especially considering the strength that the titles have had recently.
 

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I LOVE Sonic games... I'm just admitting some games were worse than others. I felt the best games were the earliest ones, during Sega's heyday. I mean, I was barely alive in that era, so I don't know much about most of those games except VC, and let me tell you, these games aged well. Sega's getting better, obviously, so I just hope Lost World is as awesome as the first games.
 

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Showing off the various Wisps in the game, some CG cutscenes, and some of the levels.

@1:37, even with the Wisp, we have the first 3D underwater segments since Sonic Adventure 2.



And some gifs to add to the pallet:






It looks like Eggman now resembles a conglomerate of both Classic and Modern Eggman. He has Modern Eggman's design, but he seems to have Classic Eggman's stoutier stature, based on that last gif.

Also, Sonic's quills are shorter.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks that the red wisp looks like one of the black arms aliens from Shadow the Hedgehog?

While I am pretty excited for Lost World, I really hope they go back to multiple playable characters soon.
 

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New Tropical Coast footage. To anybody who expected 3D underwater sections, prepare to be disappointed, because it turns out they're Drill Wisp-exclusive.

This also serves as a confirmation that each Zone has four acts in it, as seen in the world map, though there are probably extra acts that you have to unlock as well.
 

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I still need to preorder the game to get the Deadly 6 edition or whatever
 
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Oh my god! I'm so excited for Sonic Lost World to come out! I have it pre-ordered and I'm pumped to experience the all sorts of gameplay changes they made.
 

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Bump!

So... For anybody whom has played the game, what are your opinions on Sonic: Lost World?

As for me, though I did not like it as much as Sonic Colours, I nevertheless found it to be a fairly enjoyable game. The Deadly Six were pretty interesting villains.

Mine only qualms with the game were: 1). It was never explained in the story why the Wisps returned. 2). I am not too crazy about the multi-lock-on mechanic (I sometimes locked onto things I did not want to lock onto). And 3). The whole wall climbing business can be a little frustrating at times--though, after you figure out how it all works, it is fairly easy.

Also, do you guys think they should give the Sonic storybook series another chance? I do not know about others, but I rather enjoyed Sonic and the Secret Rings. Cannot say the same for Sonic and the Black Knight, however.
 
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I liked it, but I found Sonic Generations and Sonic Colors to be better. My issues are:
1. The Parkour: I hated it and I blame the fact that it was barely explained. I also hated it in the 2D sections when I am climbing up walls when I didn't want to.
2. It was hard at times: There were some difficulty spikes in some of the levels. My god… Lava Mountain Act 2… let us never speak how hard that level was. It didn't help that I had to wait until some update came where 100 rings gave me lives. Why did they exclude such a feature.
3. The Wisps: They were fun in Colors, but why were they brought back? It bothers me that the story never explains why… they're just there. I also had a pain using the Rocket and Rhythm Wisps and I still have no idea what the Bomb wisp does.

The game isn't bad in my opinion, but it could have been better. I prefer if they went to the Adventure formula or go back to the boosting gameplay of Unleashed, Colors, and Generations. I played the Wii U version BTW.
 
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I've played the 3DS version via demo, it's all right. Though I hear it's just as meh.
 

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I actually really enjoyed Lost World. I liked the level design, the fact that it was the fist challenging main series Sonic game that I've played in a long while, and I like the new 3D game play that focuses on speed-oriented platforming again instead of BOOOOOOOOOST.

I will say that the wall-running was iffy at times and I don't care for the new homing attack.
 

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I think it's the homing attacks new mechanic that threw the game off for me.

Something with the controls feels off
 

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I played both versions, so here's what I've got:

Wii U:
Starting out I found the controls rather difficult to use after the previous games like Colors and Generations, but once I got used to them I was doing great. Also glad to see the spindash back! The story left many things unexplained such as how wisps return or what happens to the Deadly Six in the end as they don't seem to die. The parkour system worked very well for me after I practiced with it, and although people complain that they climb up walls that they don't want to, it's as simple as not holding the right trigger, there you go. Smooth 60fps throughout, amazing music as expected for a Sonic game, and it's a ton more challenging like the classic 16-bit games. I'll admit Lava Mountain does go a bit overboard with the difficulty spike, and the game doesn't really explain Sonic's new moves and abilities very well leaving a newcomer in for a rough ride. Personally, I think I liked it better than Generations and Colors both, mainly because it's a breath of fresh air from all the boost-to-win, but that's just me.

3DS:
I heard a lot of negative things about this game, and I was very reluctant to buy it. Being the Sonic fanatic I am though, I ended up doing it anyway and had myself a night of both fun and frustration. The handheld version's controls are rather slippery and loose, and if you've played the Wii U version previously like me, you'll be caught off guard and die a lot. Story's the same pretty much, though a few cutscenes are left excluded for some reason. Parkour isn't as smooth as the Wii U version, but there are a lot more places where it's useful which is why I consider the 3DS version's parkour system to be better than the home consoles. Once again, just my opinion (don't kill me!). In this version, you don't climb up walls unless you have a good amount of speed going or you stand against it and spindash. Another difference is that you can do multiple spindashes when wallrunning unlike the Wii U version. As I played through, the game did have some lag at points but it's not that bad. I'd say this version's difficulty is all over the place, one stage can be simple while the others can be absolute HELL. By hell I'm talking about you, Frozen Factory Zone 3, that level took me 20 minutes because you have to push snowballs and go all over the place in a really tedious pattern. Did I mention 20 minutes is about the same amount of time it takes me to complete Eggmanland in Sonic Unleashed? This version also seems to have a gyroscope fetish because Dimps shoves it down your throat in stages like Sky Road Zone 3 and the AWFUL Special Stages. I had to get up and spin around, by the time I collected all the Chaos Emeralds I felt sick. Lava Mountain wasn't even a world, just a bunch of boss rushes. The final boss however was infinitely superior to the Wii U version, various attacks and if you wait long enough he combines them (I believe he did drill, quake and lazer once while I fought him) so bravo on that one. The bosses overall were better than the Wii U version.

Sorry about the wall of text :facepalm: guess I got carried away.

In short, Wii U version is far better overall. Wii U - 8/10, 3DS - 6/10 (my opinions as a dedicated Sonic fan)
 

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Think I'll dabble a bit into the off topic section of Smashboards.

So alongside Smash Bros, Sonic is my all-time favourite video game franchise (hence my username, which I use everywhere). It's the one I have the most nostalgia for. But also the one who's game mechanics always captivate me, and I think the community is amazing (it may be full of idiots, but those who aren't are incredibly talented, from making mods, fan-games, remixes, artwork, etc).

As for Sonic Lost World, I only have the Wii U version, but I really enjoy it. It's a great game that I go back to from time to time just to run around in, and speed run levels. I'm really excited for the Zelda DLC too. The Yoshi one was really nice, though I expect the Zelda one to be a 3D level.

I am also working on my own Sonic fan-game for a college project (and I will probably work on it beyond college). It's being made in UDK, using "Sonic GDK", a source code package for UDK that Xalse (sp?) of Sonic Retro put together (along with others). It basically has everything I could ever want to make a Sonic game of any kind. I have not begun making actual levels yet, but the story is planned in my head, as well as the game's overall theme and features. I will also be using an edge detection post process chain to give everything black outlines, much like Smash Bros 3DS. I've always wanted a Sonic game that looks like that, and seeing Sonic in Smash 3DS proved that he looks great in that style.
 

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Well my fellow Sonic fans, today is a very very important day for the franchise. Why? This:
 

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Hmmm.... not sure how I feel about the new art style, but I'm sure it will grow on me.

On the offhand, SDHJFBGLRJKB SDJKFGHSDGHFVSDGHFSDFASDLFF YES! YES! YES! FINALLY I CAN PLAY AS CHARACTERS BESIDES SONIC AGAIN. YES! I AM SOLD.
 

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Also, they have dubbed Sonic Boom as a sub-series. It's not a complete reboot, and will run parallel with the normal series.

Also, the Wii U game runs on CryEngine 3.
 

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I'm a bit iffy on the new art style, especially since Sonic made the shift from slenderhog to bulkyhog. I do like Tails' redesign quite a bit, though.
 
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Ugh. I hate how Knuckles looks. At least you can play as other characters. Though I will wait for some reviews before getting the game.
 

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I actually like the concept art more than the models.

Also, games radar has an article up showing some screens and better views of the new models. Personally, I'm digging the **** out of Tails, but I'm iffy on blue-arm Sonic, steroids Knuckles and shiny-clothes Amy.
 
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i like Amy & Tails a lot. and i can grow to like Sonic but im not a fan of Knuckles at all. the gameplay looks like it could be good though
 
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