Shogger
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Ah, that sucks. Thanks for the heads up.
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Q&A Ganon's Cauldron of Questions (Ganon Q/A Thread)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFasn_X6iQw umm apparently it's still in there to some degree. don't give up hope just yet.
Shogger
Smash Apprentice
Right, I was just hoping it was still present on BF since everyone seems to ban Lylat when I go to my local.
Over on the main Competitive Smash forum, we were trying to define the archetypes that each character fits into when played optimaly, and we were having trouble deciding weather or not Ganon was more of a spacing or bait-and-punish character. Thus, I came here to ask the Ganon mains.
MezzoMe
Smash Ace
I would say bait and punish. Though his spacing allows him to be safe and contest almost anything, against top tiers mindgames are the only way he can get away with it. If you space it correctly Bair and Nair can go a long way in the Falcon match-up when distant enough but you can't just throw them out and expect the opponent to respect you forever just because you continue throwing disjointed hitboxes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcXfA34mexY would this be safe on shield on certain characters?
Dair does 14 frames of shield stun, it takes 7 frames to drop shield and it looked like Ganon was in the air for about 16 frames after the Dair. So yeah, you should have 7 frames to do whatever you want. The character would need to have a frame 2 Up Smash or Up B to be faster than shield, and I don't think something that fast exists in the game.
I can garantuee you it's safe on shield. Cuz I use to do this on Battle Field with jump > insta DJ Dair.
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So... Little story here. I was messing around on FG yesterday, and found a pretty good Mewtwo. Most matches went back and forth despite the disadvantages. In one match, however, the most bizarre thing happened that kinda blew my salt bucket over.
I used flame choke from the left as he was facing the other direction, standing in place. After seeing the visuals of Dorf's hitboxes, I knew he was inside the grab box, as Dorf's arm did pass over Mewtwo's body. However, instead of grabbing him, Mewtwo used a standing grab, and grabbed me from behind facing to the right, while inside flame choke's box.
So, the question I impose unto my brethren of darkness is this: what the actual f***?
I used flame choke from the left as he was facing the other direction, standing in place. After seeing the visuals of Dorf's hitboxes, I knew he was inside the grab box, as Dorf's arm did pass over Mewtwo's body. However, instead of grabbing him, Mewtwo used a standing grab, and grabbed me from behind facing to the right, while inside flame choke's box.
So, the question I impose unto my brethren of darkness is this: what the actual f***?
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Koskinator
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Where has Z1gma gone and why is he gone and when will he come back
We dont miss him we are just curious
We dont miss him we are just curious
Litany
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Smashboards is dead and I guess he doesn't like Discord?
was it in the dead zone of the initial movement forward by dorf where there is no hitbox? that can screw you over sometimes.
Awwwww, Kosk.
Ye, these boards are pretty dead atm.
Tried out the Ganon Discord, but it felt like a kindergarden. Might give it another shot, tho.