G3S Mafia: XL-Edition | Day 5!

[~ Gheb ~]

tailor affecting gunsmith scans is kinda dumb :/

Especially when said gunsmith confuses "possessing a gun" with "being guilty" ;P

 

[Maven89]

Yeah I learned quite a bit from this game. My vote for Laundry over Jex was just because I felt more comfortable voting for Laundry over Jex, and never gave any thought to how that would look if Jex came up scum.

Also thought the Gunsmith role was more powerful then it was, and used it to bolster my read list on players. I thought Jdietz was null, everyone else said he was scum, I felt he was just inactive, so I investigated him. I don't remember exactly why I investigated Hardbody day 2, but it was largely the same thing, I couldn't read so I checked with my ability. Was planning on just coming in Day 3 and voting Hardbody, but since my Jdietz info was worthless, I figured, as an investigation role, I should get as much info as possible before I outed and let myself get NK. Plus, if Hardbody was scum and therefore bussed Jex like I thought, it would not be hard to imagine at all that he'd bus an inactive partner like KevinM, and since I felt KevinM was just going to be a wild card heading into end game I didn't stop the lynch. Never heard of a Framer/Tailor

Maybe props to Potassium, I never read him scum. Though I have to ask - why did you not hammer Hardbody as soon as Badwolf posted?

Town was hurt through poor use of power roles (me), bad mass claiming, and having the only real pro-town player we got from Day1 just vanished to never give thoughts again.

 

[Ashemu]

if you frame somebody they scan as "guilty". this does not mean they have a gun

i dunno mafiascum style gunsmith sucks and is confusing. em style is better because free dayvigs

 

[Sons of Hardbody]

bwolf n ruy are whack for that. i was going to type up a post explaining that this setup was made for town to trip over itself with claims

...and it did! good job handing the game to scum without a fight yu two!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

First off, maven if you got a result like that don't hide it a day later.

Badwolf you need to do more when you are cleared.

Cool set-up gheb.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

bwolf n ruy are whack for that. i was going to type up a post explaining that this setup was made for town to trip over itself with claims

...and it did! good job handing the game to scum without a fight yu two!

Kantrip was scum and had you either way.

 

[Maven89]

Especially when said gunsmith confuses "possessing a gun" with "being guilty" ;P

Hardbody came into the thread and said he didn't have a gun and I was a fraud. My role said he had a gun. Removing all knowledge of something like a tailor (which I was not aware of)...what other option was there? Hardbody just never read their role PM?

My plan was dumb, but believing Hardbody was scum after he came in insisting he didn't have a gun and I was a fake? That made sense

 

[~ Gheb ~]

if you frame somebody they scan as "guilty". this does not mean they have a gun

i dunno mafiascum style gunsmith sucks and is confusing. em style is better because free dayvigs

He doesn't "frame" anybody. He just manipulates the result of the gunsmith from "possess a gun" to "doesn't possess a gun" and vice versa.

 

[Kantrip]

I didn't hammer right away because I WANTED to endgame marshy. I was gonna bus Nabe and win the 3-man.

Tailor specifically "gives target a gun or takes it away."

Gheb should do quicktopic for scum chats. Now he can't post it.

JeXs your defense of me from bwolf ended up being superb distancing. Your mistake was clinging to a bwolf scumread when it didn't make sense to. When I asked you what you thought of him I was basically forced to bus you cuz of your answer.

 

[Kantrip]

I got lucky by framing marshkary. Thought they were a likely gunsmith investigate and I was right. Without that we probs would've lost or at least had a really tough time

 

[Sons of Hardbody]

Kantrip was scum and had you either way.

i was pushing a potato/nabe team. i only backed off potato when he didnt hammer when he shuldve. we still culd hav won had yall not gone HERPGUILTY and let me at least ****ing post like i asked. this is to badwolf as well but throwing games is his specialty. yu on the other hand there is hope for n it was ****ty

 

[Maven89]

You guys should check out the green room, a whole bunch of us were basically cheering for Hardbody the whole time. I was thinking they might pull it off, not only to win but also to make my mistake not so bad

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb should do quicktopic for scum chats. Now he can't post it.

Yeah, that really sucks <_<
I'll definitely use a QT next time.

 

[Ashemu]

the standard tailor only affects cop investigations tho

mafiascum gunsmith is legit the worst investigation role to put in a set-up because there's no standard for it. you have to guess what the mod's definition of "has a gun" is. hell some mods consider cops to have guns... but some don't... so....

 

[Kantrip]

I really wish bwolf and Ruy didn't vote. I wanted to bus Nabe and go head to head with sons in 3 man lylo. Like, really bad.

 

[Kantrip]

Yeah, that really sucks <_<
I'll definitely use a QT next time.

TL;DR is I basically did everything while Nabe sat on his avatar

 

[Ashemu]

i dont understand why bwolf didnt sub out

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

i was pushing a potato/nabe team. i only backed off potato when he didnt hammer when he shuldve. we still culd hav won had yall not gone HERPGUILTY and let me at least ****ing post like i asked. this is to badwolf as well but throwing games is his specialty. yu on the other hand there is hope for n it was ****ty

I ment either way if Kantrip played right my vote didn't make a difference.

Badwolf voting is what doomed town.

 

[Maven89]

If this turns into a Badwolf discussion I'm going to get banned

 

[Sons of Hardbody]

I really wish bwolf and Ruy didn't vote. I wanted to bus Nabe and go head to head with sons in 3 man lylo. Like, really bad.

idve dunked on yu boi. yu aint ready 2 step 2 da swag

 

[Kantrip]

idve dunked on yu boi. yu aint ready 2 step 2 da swag

Guess we'll have to wait til next time.

 

[Sons of Hardbody]

I ment either way if Kantrip played right my vote didn't make a difference.

Badwolf voting is what doomed town.

badwolf BEING TOWN is what doomed us. hes pretty much an honorary scum member regardless of his alignment

that said can we finally ****ing blacklist him? he goes inactive/helps the other team in EVERY game. **** is so ridiculous but ******* whiteknight him for whatever reason

 

[Kantrip]

Badwolf said himself he's leaving. Let's drop it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

badwolf BEING TOWN is what doomed us. hes pretty much an honorary scum member regardless of his alignment

that said can we finally ****ing blacklist him? he goes inactive/helps the other team in EVERY game. **** is so ridiculous but ******* whiteknight him for whatever reason

I white knight him because I believe in the best of people.

But this game and his endgame play....you were right.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

ayy remember when I ****ing hated Kantrip in RVS? xD

 

[~ Gheb ~]

All Mafiosi had a gun
Maven, Laundry, Dietz and Ice & Fire also had a gun each

All uninformed.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

All Mafiosi had a gun
Maven, Laundry, Dietz and Ice & Fire also had a gun each

All uninformed.

I wanna talk about your set-up. Where did the idea come from and what were the decisions for each part?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

lol that badwolf vote tho. i mean doesnt even post anything else, gg.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

ayy remember when I ****ing hated Kantrip in RVS? xD

Btw, the setup is fairly simple. Since you complained about it in one of your posts. Most roles were just vanillas and the gun thing is one of them gimmicks that I use in almost all my games to spice things up.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I wanna talk about your set-up. Where did the idea come from and what were the decisions for each part?

Ask specific questions if you wanna know things please. I'm bad at answering vague and general questions like this one <_<

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Potassium forged my Hardbody read

'read'. interesting word choice.

 

[Maven89]

Why two investigate roles compared to your other games with one?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Why two investigate roles compared to your other games with one?

Why not? Is there a law that demands me to use the amount of investigative roles I used in my previous game?

 

[Ashemu]

yes & youre under arrest

 

[#HBC | Kary]

hmm Kanty can only really play the Nabe bus b/c he's the one who's tailor.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

yes & youre under arrest

:'(

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Btw, the setup is fairly simple. Since you complained about it in one of your posts. Most roles were just vanillas and the gun thing is one of them gimmicks that I use in almost all my games to spice things up.

I actually like this setup and think it is interesting (give or take whatever the hot nurse role does, please explain that )
that being said I don't think 4 PRs to 3 is very simple. eh.
whatever, still enjoyed the game.

edit; hot nurse is doc or block, says in the green room

 

[Maven89]

Why not? Is there a law that demands me to use the amount of investigative roles I used in my previous game?

I was under the impression people made mafia setups based on an idea or a type of balance/interaction between roles, and generally not because of "why not", so that's why I asked why there were two investigative roles

 

[Kantrip]

Indy really threw me off guard. Not sure what things would've been like had people burned.

 

[Orboknown]

Yeah I learned quite a bit from this game. My vote for Laundry over Jex was just because I felt more comfortable voting for Laundry over Jex, and never gave any thought to how that would look if Jex came up scum.

Also thought the Gunsmith role was more powerful then it was, and used it to bolster my read list on players. I thought Jdietz was null, everyone else said he was scum, I felt he was just inactive, so I investigated him. I don't remember exactly why I investigated Hardbody day 2, but it was largely the same thing, I couldn't read so I checked with my ability. Was planning on just coming in Day 3 and voting Hardbody, but since my Jdietz info was worthless, I figured, as an investigation role, I should get as much info as possible before I outed and let myself get NK. Plus, if Hardbody was scum and therefore bussed Jex like I thought, it would not be hard to imagine at all that he'd bus an inactive partner like KevinM, and since I felt KevinM was just going to be a wild card heading into end game I didn't stop the lynch. Never heard of a Framer/Tailor

Maybe props to Potassium, I never read him scum. Though I have to ask - why did you not hammer Hardbody as soon as Badwolf posted?

Town was hurt through poor use of power roles (me), bad mass claiming, and having the only real pro-town player we got from Day1 just vanished to never give thoughts again.

You don't need to worry about how you look for your actions, because town has nothing to hide. Its why I'm vastly more likely to tell people to **** off and let me work at my own pace.
Also it might just be me but I'd use an investigative(if i ever rolled em) to weed out my nulls and check my scumreads